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I always thought a UTH/DET trade around Hamilton/Boozer made alot of sense.

Yuri Vaultin wrote:I would think bit players that haven't had much opportunity are the ones that will be available.

D.J. Augustin comes to mind.

Mohammed + Augustin for Banks, Wright and O'Bryant.

Trade Calderon to Boston

In return, get Glen Davis, Eddie House and Tony Allen. Trade doesn't work on Real GM, but works on ESPN Trade Machine.

Hose for Scalabrine.
Get er done BC

Raja Bell

Would cost Amir and Wright which would be tough to lose Amir but when Evans returns he could be.

pspot wrote:Raja Bell

Would cost Amir and Wright which would be tough to lose Amir but when Evans returns he could be.

How healthy is Bell? is he due back this season?

cosmostein wrote:

pspot wrote:Raja Bell

Would cost Amir and Wright which would be tough to lose Amir but when Evans returns he could be.

How healthy is Bell? is he due back this season?

Probably out for the rest of the year.

RaptorZz101 wrote:Any of these trades happened i wouldnt like it. We need a proven SF

Okay. So who are you trading Hedo for in your follow-up trade?

re: trading with the Lakers

It's probably our best bet, although it'll basically be us getting financial relief rather than actual talent. Shannon Brown's not bad, but only turned it on in LA, so it may be a system thing.

My only issue is that the Lakers may not want El Matador in their defensive schemes. I'm not 100 % certain he fits offensively, but I'm 100 % sure he doesn't fit defensively.

Remember, Fisher fit there for so long because he's a competent defender who can shoot the 3. He's willing to pass and is competent, but he's not there for his passing. At all.

dagger wrote:

cosmostein wrote:

pspot wrote:Raja Bell

Would cost Amir and Wright which would be tough to lose Amir but when Evans returns he could be.

How healthy is Bell? is he due back this season?

Probably out for the rest of the year.

I heard March, so he'd be just back for the playoffs and thats a huge roll of the dice and probably not realistic.

There really arent' that many realistic options in the 3 to 7 million range (depending on who you include going out)

the only other one I was thinking was Wright, Amir, Banks for Maggette
GS cuts the Maggette deal in half next year and out of it after that
Raps lose Amir but hopefully gain Evans
Maggette isnt exactly the defensive guy they need but a wing that will drive

Available players

Butler
Arenas
Ellis
Maggette
Boozer
AK47
Okur
Dalembert
Brand
Hamilton
Prince
Conley
Thabeet
Fisher
Knicks entire roster
Armstrong
Brown
Bayless
Miller
Bass
Gortat
Camby
McGrady
Posey
Redd
Salmons
Thomas

Detroit will not trade Rip for Jose. There is no motivation for that trade at all
Rip is the much better player and he is on a better contract.
Jose for Rip is a Raptors fantasy

princeofpalace wrote:Detroit will not trade Rip for Jose. There is no motivation for that trade at all
Rip is the much better player and he is on a better contract.
Jose for Rip is a Raptors fantasy

Jose Calderon $8,219,008 $9,000,000 $9,780,992 $10,561,983
Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:

princeofpalace wrote:Detroit will not trade Rip for Jose. There is no motivation for that trade at all
Rip is the much better player and he is on a better contract.
Jose for Rip is a Raptors fantasy

Jose Calderon $8,219,008 $9,000,000 $9,780,992 $10,561,983
Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000

Calderon is not a starting caliber player- he should be making an average of 6-7 per year
Rip should be making 10-11 per year

Rip is much closer to value than Jose because he is a much better player

If BC wants to trade Calderon, I think Boris Diaw should be a target.

Maybe something like:

Calderon + Evans for Diaw + Augustin

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:

princeofpalace wrote:Detroit will not trade Rip for Jose. There is no motivation for that trade at all
Rip is the much better player and he is on a better contract.
Jose for Rip is a Raptors fantasy

Jose Calderon $8,219,008 $9,000,000 $9,780,992 $10,561,983
Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000

Rip's last year isn't fully guaranteed.

If the Raptors wanna be contenders, they better trade Jose now before its too late, and before other GMs find out he's not all that.

Jose and (pieces) for either: Rip, KMartin, Iggy (not likely)/good 2guard!!!

Then trade Bargnani and (whatever pieces necessary, perhaps even a future pick) for Joakim Noah!!

If BC can pull that off, we are immediate contenders imo. The following lineup could do some serious damage in the playoffs:

JJack
Rip/KMartin
Turkoglu
Bosh
JNoah

Bench: Derozen (hopefully), Amir Johnson (hopefully), Bellinelli (hopefully)

That lineup right there takes us from so-so to dangerous.
What do you guys think??? Do-able???

I can't see Raps trading Jose and I can't see them getting any high end guys (Martin, Iggy, Rip) without giving up DD

Honestly I think in the end this team may be better if they just ride it out with this unit and they are given time to gel

Hobo Gonzolez wrote:

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:

princeofpalace wrote:Detroit will not trade Rip for Jose. There is no motivation for that trade at all
Rip is the much better player and he is on a better contract.
Jose for Rip is a Raptors fantasy

Jose Calderon $8,219,008 $9,000,000 $9,780,992 $10,561,983
Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000 $12,500,000

Rip's last year isn't fully guaranteed.

9mil of the last year is guaranteed irregardless, so it's not really that big of a deal.

The only way you cut him is if he's really fallen off a cliff by then.

komodo19 wrote:Detroit doesn't trade Hamilton for Calderon, they already have Stuckey, Gordon, and Bynum at PG/SG.

Watch the Pistons play and you'll see why they need a PG. Stuckey, Gordon and Bynum have all proven that they cannot run the point effectively for that team.