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“You go to the bus after the game and we all sit together on the bus and now it’s a bunch of empty seats in front of you. Just every day little stuff like that hits you. All of a sudden I have different guys shooting with me at my pregame shooting time rather than Simone [Fontecchio]. So, it’s gonna take some time to get used to. And like I said, it happens every year, but there’s the same empty feeling every year”, he also said about not playing anymore with the Italian forward.

vryadli wrote:

RookieJazz wrote:

bkohler wrote:The collective meltdown and anger over a 500 team selling off some vets is kinda funny.

I am more than frustrated right now. Hoping someone offer 5 1st for Lauri and we can reset the team decently.

Exactly. Time to trade him till the value is high. This summer the latest, I' say. Only maybe not for 5 FRP, but for 15 or even 20 second rounders? Then next February will be good time to trade Kessler.

Cappy_Smurf wrote:

vryadli wrote:

RookieJazz wrote:
I am more than frustrated right now. Hoping someone offer 5 1st for Lauri and we can reset the team decently.

Exactly. Time to trade him till the value is high. This summer the latest, I' say. Only maybe not for 5 FRP, but for 15 or even 20 second rounders? Then next February will be good time to trade Kessler.

Lol.

I can't wait until we get a high draft pick so we can start making plans for when we can trade that guy.

jazzvintage wrote:At least now we trade guys. I remember when they let them go for nothing.
Besides, the way suspicious scouting continues to exist, it wouldn't be rare to find good players in a so called "bad draft".
May be DA is at his personal "better lucky than good" stage.

AGE1207 wrote:
The value we got for players we weren’t going to resign is minimal and doesn’t weigh up against the loss of chemistry we had in that locker room or the experience we could have built with the play inns.
If we had too many rotation quality players, the first guy to ship out should have been THT. He wanted out and hadn’t played for months but he is still on board. Why? Meanwhile guys that played their buds off were shipped out for peanuts.
Yes, it’s a business and we cleared some more cap space but it cuts both ways. What kind of message did the FO just send to the NBA? Come and play for the Jazz? And what kind of message did the FO just send to the fans? Buy season tickets? And what kind of message to the locker room and coaching staff? Win but not too often? Score but not too much?

I hope this doesn’t bite them in the ass when it comes to extending LM or others…I know I would think twice now…

Stupid moves going against the Jazz culture.

HadAnEffectHere wrote:

jazzvintage wrote:At least now we trade guys. I remember when they let them go for nothing.
Besides, the way suspicious scouting continues to exist, it wouldn't be rare to find good players in a so called "bad draft".
May be DA is at his personal "better lucky than good" stage.

I've watched a lot of these guys and they just suck, I'm sorry.

Obviously they could improve because they're 19, but man, there's like zero physical talent in this draft. Every top prospect other than Sarr and Holland is a well below average athlete. Never seen a draft where the ability to jump was in such short supply. There's role player potential, but Cody Williams has easily the highest ceiling in this draft and his ceiling is like Pascal Siakam. JaKobe Walter is a guaranteed top 9 guy with a max ceiling of KCP.

Inigo Montoya wrote:I didn't have any hope for Porter Jr. He seems to be on a steep decline and playing him nullifies the purpose of the trade that got him to begin with, which was to open more minutes for Hendricks and maybe the Sensei.

AGE1207 wrote:I’m confused. So we were trying to get stronger after all? And get to the playoffs?
So this whole “we are doing this so we can get our rookies more playing time” and “this is part of our LT strategy” explanation after the deadline is what?

bkohler wrote:Yeah, I think you’re exactly right. Danny is after value where ever he can get it.

vryadli wrote:

bkohler wrote:Yeah, I think you’re exactly right. Danny is after value where ever he can get it.

...even if it can't be reasonably used and will rot on the shelf. Somewhat like players competing for the personal stats. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

bkohler wrote:

HadAnEffectHere wrote:

bkohler wrote:

This is what has confused me; we’re currently 10th with one of the hardest schedules in the league left. Without making any moves and with great injury luck we’d still need to win a playin game or two to make the playoffs.

People act like we’re a top 4 team, we’re a long ways from that.

I mean, I guess, but it's just weird to intentionally miss the play-in to get like... the 8th pick, lol.

We intentionally missed the playoffs last year to get the 9th pick who has been... ehh in the G-League and that's pretty common for guys in the 6-10 range, there's not usually a ton of great players there. Hendricks can probably be an average starting PF one day and then maybe we can draft JaKobe Butler who can one day be an average starting SG but like... Not super exciting moves and feels very weird compared to both trying to win or trying to tank.

These half-tanks are weird.

I guess that’s where I see it differently. I don’t think these moves are about where we end up at the end of the year. I think they’re about getting value for players we weren’t going to resign.

I honestly think that there’s 50/50 odds we play at the about the same rate as we did in the rest of the year. A big part of that is Hardy is great and so is Lauri. If the floor of those two together isn’t far from our current ceiling why not sell off vets for value?

I think the Jazz sending their pick to OKC this year AND getting additional picks is the goal / hope.