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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#101 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 3:43 pm

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GREY 1769 wrote:I understand the complexities fine, it was just a summation. The best overall player up to that point was Novak. Fed is the superior/far more experienced grass player. Closed roof conditions favoured Novak. Johhny Mac said so. Commentators also mentioned that the difference in humidity closed/open roof was slight, but I think depending on the conditions the open roof had potential to make court more damp, especially of course if the ever present clouds were hovering. I'll go with their expert opinions, but thanks for taking the time break it down.

Murray off to a hot, adrenalin-induced start. Really took it to Fed who looked nervous. Fed slowed it down with slices, making Murray generate his own pace. And the seesaw continues with Fed almost breaking Andy, only to be broken himself. My heart can't take this!


You have to be careful with going too much by one guy you think is an expert. Fed himself said he thought in retrospect the conditions helped him, so clearly, one expert is wrong.

To be clear: I'm not saying that closing the roof inherently gave Fed an advantage, and certainly if they had kept it open while it was wet outside, that would have probably given Fed an even bigger advantage...until they'd have to stop play. (which of course is exactly what eventually happened to halt Djokovic's come back at the French)

The advantage of the roof was that when the sun came out, it didn't dry off the court because it was there was a roof in the way.

But hey, I'll say again. I could be wrong. These things, even the experts only seem to be able to guess. All I really know is that the play yesterday felt ridiculously fast compared to a typical Wimbledon day, and that it makes sense to me because I know how grass can get when its a bit wet.

1st bolded part: I do think former players who have played on that very court are experts, but that's a fair point, especially with Fed saying that he favoured the closed roof. We'll see how Roger and Andy respond to the changed conditions with the roof being closed as we speak.

2nd bolded part: I hadn't thought of that. I see that this could make the court ever so slick. Hopefully the effects of whatever rain has fallen thus far will be mitigated by new technologies they have to keep playing conditions optimal.

That was a haunting look at Andy's past and the shootings at Dunblane... so heartbreaking for those families, my God...
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#102 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 3:44 pm

That was a really good story by ESPN. Never would have guessed something like that happened there.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#103 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 3:58 pm

OMG Roger with the cheeky off balance shot. Impossible to defend.

Closed roof also has effect of shots having a more booming sound when hit, and audience cheers are louder, too. The rain hitting the roof is distracting, but it sure beats delaying the game for another couple of hours, or worse it being put off for another day. Glad to see the end of that era.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#104 » by Andre3822 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 3:59 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:OMG Roger with the cheeky off balance shot. Impossible to defend.

Closed roof also has effect of shots having a more booming sound when hit, and audience cheers are louder, too. The rain hitting the roof is distracting, but it sure beats delaying the game for another couple of hours, or worse it being put off for another day. Glad to see the end of that era.


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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#105 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:02 pm

KILLER Backhand there
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#106 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:04 pm

Ugh...ugly fall.Hope he's ok
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#107 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:09 pm

I loveee seeing Roger rip the forehand. Can see why Andy is always hitting the backhand.
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Post#108 » by mjba » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:11 pm

how long has this "c'mon!" thing been around? it feels like it's unique to tennis, but i'm sure it's not.

i think if Fed wins this game, he'll win
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Post#109 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:12 pm

Hewitt is the one I remember doing"C'mon" the most.
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Post#110 » by Rich Rane » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:14 pm

Murray needs to get his 1st serves in. Federer's murdering his 2nds. Duece 8, huge game here.
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Post#111 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:15 pm

Is it me or does Murray not hit with as much power than the other 3?cept for the serve.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#112 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:20 pm

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GREY 1769 wrote:OMG Roger with the cheeky off balance shot. Impossible to defend.

Closed roof also has effect of shots having a more booming sound when hit, and audience cheers are louder, too. The rain hitting the roof is distracting, but it sure beats delaying the game for another couple of hours, or worse it being put off for another day. Glad to see the end of that era.


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Yep. They had to do something though. The rain delays over the years were just too much. Nice to see the roof finally here after taking about it for so long.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#113 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:21 pm

Rich Rane wrote:Murray needs to get his 1st serves in. Federer's murdering his 2nds. Duece 8, huge game here.

Yeah he's attacking Andy's second serve a lot more, running around it and unleashing forehands.

Great that Fed held his serve there after breaking Murray. So hard to do...
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#114 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:23 pm

Andy needs a new gameplan. Change his shoes? he is slipping hella lot out there/
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#115 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:28 pm

Match has picked upimo. Moreclean hitting.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#116 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:52 pm

OOOOHHH YEEESSSS!!! :o
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#117 » by Hero » Sun Jul 8, 2012 4:53 pm

It's over.

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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#118 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:02 pm

I feel bad for Murray.

It's not like he folded under all the pressure, he's been playing well. Roger is just insane right now.
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#119 » by CJ_18 » Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:08 pm

Is it pretty much consensus that Federer is already the GOAT? Or does tying sampras for 7 wimbledons hold any value? Or has he already surpassed sampras in GOAT status?
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Re: Wimbledon 2012 

Post#120 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 8, 2012 5:13 pm

Three more points, Fed........!
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