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[SD2042]

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The SOB Boys did a blog piece today on the potential Damon Stoudamire buyout. Basically the blog states that if Damon doesn't play X number of games. He will have to "give back nearly 80 percent of his expected salary for next season. "

[jefe]

Nice, the Grizz can really strong arm him - basically asking him "how much is it worth to you to leave now?" Because if not, then he'll be bench for 18 more games to get him under the 55 games condition.

[dark-child]

We have heard about that provision for a while now and I have to say it is in very poor taste to do this to the guy to save a few bucks. The have Brian Cardinal on the roster and no one is trying to touch his dollars. I think the franchise has had the worst luck but pulling a tactic like this even if he did sign the contract is pretty low. The provision was obviously put in place to protect the franchise if the guy was injured but to saddle him with DNP's is beyond low. Karma can be a *&^%% so be very careful Chris Wallace.

[bobobolas1]

Wow. nice read.

that guy is useless now. the thing is his contract is not good for us and also not for most of teams, but he is at the minimun for a guy with that experience...so i am sure if Mem buyout him some teams would be interested in him as a free agent. Now im not sure what are our needs cause im a bit lost but we could find and specialist to fit in the team for him, some kind of D or sth. maybe we could find something interesting for him. what about the needs at PG of cleveland o toronto.

[crazy_diamond]

sounds familiar to me...

this is what i think is going on:

stoudamire has 2 years left, 9 million.

if he doesn

[Double Dribble]

We have heard about that provision for a while now and I have to say it is in very poor taste to do this to the guy to save a few bucks. The have Brian Cardinal on the roster and no one is trying to touch his dollars. I think the franchise has had the worst luck but pulling a tactic like this even if he did sign the contract is pretty low. The provision was obviously put in place to protect the franchise if the guy was injured but to saddle him with DNP's is beyond low. Karma can be a *&^%% so be very careful Chris Wallace.

Remind me to never hire you to run a business.

[GrizzGT]

We have heard about that provision for a while now and I have to say it is in very poor taste to do this to the guy to save a few bucks. The have Brian Cardinal on the roster and no one is trying to touch his dollars. I think the franchise has had the worst luck but pulling a tactic like this even if he did sign the contract is pretty low. The provision was obviously put in place to protect the franchise if the guy was injured but to saddle him with DNP's is beyond low. Karma can be a *&^%% so be very careful Chris Wallace.

IF BC had similar language in his contract, I can assure you the same thing would be going on. This is an apples and oranges comparison.

As for Damon, the reason he signed with Memphis vs. others is that we guaranteed something in year 4, while others were only offering 3 year deals. It's too bad that Damon's knee blew out in Portland that night. I wish Damon the best, and think that the Grizz have already rejected trade offers (according to Tillery in Comm'l Appeal) in an attempt to allow Damon to get to a contender shows that the Grizz are trying to do right by Damon IMO. They could simply trade him (assuming the offers are beneficial - $ savings to Grizz) to whoever, and if he plays games Damon would get paid full amount next year.

[dark-child]

With some of these comments it seems that some of you and the Grizz really deserve each other. It is starting to make sense why things happen the way they do.

Double Dribble - a meth lab is not exactly a business now is it?

[grizzleGM]

Can someone clarify how this impacts the Grizz's cap number!

If Damon is bought out this year, I think his buyout/salary is split between this year and next.

So if his total buyout is $6million, he will count $3million against the cap this year and $3million next year.

Can anyone confirm this? or accurately rebutt this?

[GrizzGT]

Can someone clarify how this impacts the Grizz's cap number!

If Damon is bought out this year, I think his buyout/salary is split between this year and next.

So if his total buyout is $6million, he will count $3million against the cap this year and $3million next year.

Can anyone confirm this? or accurately rebutt this?

It's FAQ #60. If the link works, here it is:

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#60

[crazy_diamond]

after reading this, i think we should trade him away for an expiring, even if we had to add someone like warrick to sweeten the pot. let

[Double Dribble]

With some of these comments it seems that some of you and the Grizz really deserve each other. It is starting to make sense why things happen the way they do.

Double Dribble - a meth lab is not exactly a business now is it?

Your ignorance of business, economics, and personal responsibility is larger than the oceans and reaches greater depths as well. You have a wonderful future as a social worker to look forward to. I'll give you $5,000 if you can come up with the original, undoctored photo that shows West holding a gun to Damon's head as he signs the contract.

[dark-child]

D.D. , calm down no one is blowing the whistle on your trailor, oops I mean factory. Your ascension from becoming a tool to recycle beer into the world of big business(buying all the sudafed in West Memphis to make Meth) does not qualify you to plot my career path. As high as you might be I hope you can put the pipe down long enough to understand the words I'm about to write.

Doo Doo, are you still with us?

First, Jerry West signed Damon Stoudamire and not Chris Wallace, so there is no photo of a gun toting Chris Wallace and Damon signing anything. Furthermore, you may have your Chris Wallaces mixed up as Chris Wallace aka The Notorious B.I.G., says he,"kicked in the door waving the four four, all you heard was Papa don't hit me no more". Easy mistake one C. Wallace is a fifty year white guy and other is a deceased 300 pound black rapper.

Secondly, the provision in the deal was clearly a safeguard in the event the player can not play due to injury. I am sure all parties would agree it was not intended to be used as a money saving venture. Damon beat out all other point guards on the roster for the starting job, and is still a capable player, to take away the starting job is one thing but saddle him with a DNP to save dollars when you are not over the CAP is a very low blow. On top of all of this Damon Stoudamire is the Captain, so how do you treat the Captain of the team with such disdain?

Everything can not be so black and white there has to be a right way and a wrong way to do things. Are we so jaded that even thou our team is having a bad luck season that we can still feel good about ourselves by sticking it to someone else? How can we expect the situation to turnaround if we do things like this? So if this approach makes me a bleeding heart, so be it, but I would prefer if we did things the right way and did not step on anyone in the process.

[Double Dribble]

Yes, I know West signed Damon. I accidentally posted Wallace's name, but when I recognized the error, I changed it. The timestamp on my edit is earlier than the timestamp on your post, but I am amused that you would seize upon that irrelevant detail at the expense of missing the point at large. I'm certain you puffed your chest proudly. Damon signed the contract. He and his agent knew the risks and the terms. If they didn't, it's their own damn fault. Your "clearly a safeguard...due to injury" is nothing but pap. There is no specific language about injury in regards to this item. Clearly it isn't limited to just injury. I think you should drop the "we" bit; you have no say in how the organization and business is run or the decisions of the organization and business. I might have been generous with the social worker forecast.

[dark-child]

I am not interested in drawing this out or exchanging barbs.

Let's just say we simply agree to disagree. But in the future if someone expresses an opinion different then your own you might want to be careful with the personal shot you take at them.

[Double Dribble]

I didn't realize this was a matter of differing opinions. You've made it clear that you would go with your heart over your head and you're chastising the Grizzlies for not prescribing to your out of whack point of view. As such, you would be a poor candidate to run a business. end of story.

[dark-child]

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