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Post#81 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 3, 2024 6:20 pm

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Post#82 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 3, 2024 6:36 pm

Jrue was my plan for my next pick, shoot.
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Post#83 » by Snakebites » Fri May 3, 2024 6:37 pm

Thought about Jrue too.

Decided to go with Pippen instead.
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Post#84 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 3, 2024 6:52 pm

Almost went with someone else there but stoked with the team.

Pick and Roll with Gobert and Nash is lethal, imo.

Vince and Marion as lob targets as well
Great spacing from Vince, Nash, Bell
Spacing from Marion

Great defense with Marion, Bell and Gobert
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Post#85 » by MadNESS » Fri May 3, 2024 7:21 pm

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Post#86 » by Snakebites » Fri May 3, 2024 7:51 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Almost went with someone else there but stoked with the team.

Pick and Roll with Gobert and Nash is lethal, imo.

Vince and Marion as lob targets as well
Great spacing from Vince, Nash, Bell
Spacing from Marion

Great defense with Marion, Bell and Gobert

It’s a lot like the actual Suns of that era.

Not sure how much BETTER than those Suns it is. Gobert is a massive upgrade over Amare defensively but a downgrade on offense. I do like the VC fit though. He’d have thrived with Nash.
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Post#87 » by parsnips33 » Fri May 3, 2024 7:56 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Jrue was my plan for my next pick, shoot.


I was worried you were gonna swoop him
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Post#88 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri May 3, 2024 8:00 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Almost went with someone else there but stoked with the team.

Pick and Roll with Gobert and Nash is lethal, imo.

Vince and Marion as lob targets as well
Great spacing from Vince, Nash, Bell
Spacing from Marion

Great defense with Marion, Bell and Gobert

It’s a lot like the actual Suns of that era.

Not sure how much BETTER than those Suns it is. Gobert is a massive upgrade over Amare defensively but a downgrade on offense. I do like the VC fit though. He’d have thrived with Nash.

I think swapping Gobert and Vince in while removing Amar'e makes for a decided improvement.
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Post#89 » by Snakebites » Fri May 3, 2024 8:07 pm

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Snakebites wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Almost went with someone else there but stoked with the team.

Pick and Roll with Gobert and Nash is lethal, imo.

Vince and Marion as lob targets as well
Great spacing from Vince, Nash, Bell
Spacing from Marion

Great defense with Marion, Bell and Gobert

It’s a lot like the actual Suns of that era.

Not sure how much BETTER than those Suns it is. Gobert is a massive upgrade over Amare defensively but a downgrade on offense. I do like the VC fit though. He’d have thrived with Nash.

I think swapping Gobert and Vince in while removing Amar'e makes for a decided improvement.

Yeah I’ll buy that. The Suns didn’t really have a particularly good scoring wing after they let JJ go to the Hawks, and they never had he and Bell at the same time.

The two man game between Amare/Nash will be missed though. Gobert is a good roll man but not nearly so good.
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Post#90 » by durantbird » Fri May 3, 2024 8:29 pm

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Post#91 » by MadNESS » Fri May 3, 2024 8:44 pm

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Post#92 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 3, 2024 9:18 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:It’s a lot like the actual Suns of that era.

Not sure how much BETTER than those Suns it is. Gobert is a massive upgrade over Amare defensively but a downgrade on offense. I do like the VC fit though. He’d have thrived with Nash.

I think swapping Gobert and Vince in while removing Amar'e makes for a decided improvement.

Yeah I’ll buy that. The Suns didn’t really have a particularly good scoring wing after they let JJ go to the Hawks, and they never had he and Bell at the same time.

The two man game between Amare/Nash will be missed though. Gobert is a good roll man but not nearly so good.



He is oretty elite at finishing at the rim though.

And he is huge. I would be surprise to find out that gobert at peak elevations reach is as high as peak amares reach of the jump even though amare is a freak athlete.
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Post#93 » by Snakebites » Fri May 3, 2024 9:48 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
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Fadeaway_J wrote:I think swapping Gobert and Vince in while removing Amar'e makes for a decided improvement.

Yeah I’ll buy that. The Suns didn’t really have a particularly good scoring wing after they let JJ go to the Hawks, and they never had he and Bell at the same time.

The two man game between Amare/Nash will be missed though. Gobert is a good roll man but not nearly so good.



He is oretty elite at finishing at the rim though.

And he is huge. I would be surprise to find out that gobert at peak elevations reach is as high as peak amares reach of the jump even though amare is a freak athlete.

Rudy is effective and efficient. He’s just not a volume scorer.
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Post#94 » by parsnips33 » Fri May 3, 2024 9:53 pm

So scared of the big Serbian that I went out and got 2 DPOY centers :lol:
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Post#95 » by Snakebites » Fri May 3, 2024 9:56 pm

parsnips33 wrote:So scared of the big Serbian that I went out and got 2 DPOY centers :lol:

Defending him is futile. I’m just gonna make him defend in space.
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Post#96 » by parsnips33 » Fri May 3, 2024 10:06 pm

Snakebites wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:So scared of the big Serbian that I went out and got 2 DPOY centers :lol:

Defending him is futile. I’m just gonna make him defend in space.


That's as good a bet as any
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Post#97 » by flaco » Fri May 3, 2024 10:33 pm

Snakebites wrote:
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Snakebites wrote:Yeah I’ll buy that. The Suns didn’t really have a particularly good scoring wing after they let JJ go to the Hawks, and they never had he and Bell at the same time.

The two man game between Amare/Nash will be missed though. Gobert is a good roll man but not nearly so good.



He is oretty elite at finishing at the rim though.

And he is huge. I would be surprise to find out that gobert at peak elevations reach is as high as peak amares reach of the jump even though amare is a freak athlete.

Rudy is effective and efficient. He’s just not a volume scorer.

Not to mention, 7'1'' Gobert isn't suited for the 7-seconds-or-less offense. Nash is at his best when running on the open court. Gobert is mobile for his size, but he's nowhere near Amar'e's level when it comes to explosiveness and athleticism. Nash would frequently have to wait for Gobert to set him up which would considerably slow down the tempo of the game. At that point, you'd probably be better off with a half-court specialist like Luka or CP3. Don't get me wrong, Nash was amazing in the half court as well. It's just that you don't maximize his offensive potential anymore.

D-wise, Gobert can be exposed in the PnP, especially against teams running a 5-out offense. It's not like he has no defensive weaknesses.
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Post#98 » by Larry_Russell » Fri May 3, 2024 10:42 pm

flaco wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

He is oretty elite at finishing at the rim though.

And he is huge. I would be surprise to find out that gobert at peak elevations reach is as high as peak amares reach of the jump even though amare is a freak athlete.

Rudy is effective and efficient. He’s just not a volume scorer.

Not to mention, 7'1'' Gobert isn't suited for the 7-seconds-or-less offense. Nash is at his best when running on the open court. Gobert is mobile for his size, but he's nowhere near Amar'e's level when it comes to explosiveness and athleticism. Nash would frequently have to wait for Gobert to set him up which would considerably slow down the tempo of the game. At that point, you'd probably be better off with a half-court specialist like Luka or CP3. Don't get me wrong, Nash was amazing in the half court as well. It's just that you don't maximize his offensive potential anymore.

D-wise, Gobert can be exposed in the PnP, especially against teams running a 5-out offense. It's not like he has no defensive weaknesses.


He hasnt really been exposed this season in ther pnp.

Also, as long as he secures a board and tosses to nash, he can just trail the play.

With Vince and Marion and Nash running thats the main 7sol i need and bell trailing as well.

Gobert, in my plan, would defend rim, rebound, start a break and trail it so if something isnt there fast he can start setting screens
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Post#99 » by wackbone » Fri May 3, 2024 11:36 pm

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