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2024 Draft Thread - Part II

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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#61 » by NatP4 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:14 pm

Hollinger had Jaden Ivey above Chet Holmgren. Also had Walker Kessler at 37.

Had Coulibaly at 17 last year.
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Post#62 » by pcbothwel » Mon May 13, 2024 3:16 pm

Whoa...
Castle measured in at 6'2.5 w/o shoes...He's smaller than Beal...Eeesshhh.
Holland is 6'6.5 with 6'10 wing... Holland just jumped Castle...sorry, but true.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#63 » by Mizerooskie » Mon May 13, 2024 3:19 pm

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Mizerooskie wrote:Oof. I know people expected Dillingham to measure small....but that small? How far does he fall now?

I assumed he was 6'-1" w/o shoes the whole time. The alarming part is that he isn't making up for it with a decent wingspan. 6'-3" is short.


A lot of players were allowed to skip the 22/23 combine, but that would’ve been the shortest wingspan.

The only guys drafted in the top 10 with that short of a wingspan since 2000 (as far back as the NBA database goes) are Trae Young and TJ Ford.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#64 » by DCZards » Mon May 13, 2024 3:26 pm

pcbothwel wrote:Whoa...
Castle measured in at 6'2.5 w/o shoes...He's smaller than Beal...Eeesshhh.
Holland is 6'6.5 with 6'10 wing... Holland just jumped Castle...sorry, but true.

Yeah..Holland is looking more and more like the one to get. Been checking out his videos...he's an awesome defender to go along with an extremely high motor and the potential to be a very good offensive player.

Little surprised and disappointed by Castle's measurement. Thought he'd be at least 6'4 to 6'5.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#65 » by nate33 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:28 pm

pcbothwel wrote:Whoa...
Castle measured in at 6'2.5 w/o shoes...He's smaller than Beal...Eeesshhh.
Holland is 6'6.5 with 6'10 wing... Holland just jumped Castle...sorry, but true.

He has a 6'-8.75" wingspan though. That's huge! I don't think the measurements will hurt him much. Maybe it knocks him out of any top 4 potential, but he'll still go top 10.

Holland is easily my favorite at #2 at this point. I might take him #1.

Clingan is moving back up for me too. I had him around 7 or 8, but seeing that shooting form, he is moving back up.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#66 » by nate33 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:31 pm

Bronny James is 6'-1.5" tall. lol
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Post#67 » by nate33 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:35 pm

Jared McCain has a poor wingspan.

6'-2" tall. 6'-3.5" wingspan
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#68 » by nate33 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:36 pm

Reed Sheppard
6'-1.75" tall. 6'-3.25" wingspan

I thought he might be a little bigger. He also has the smallest hands in the draft class so far.
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Post#69 » by Rafael122 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:38 pm

Castle can't shoot, so are you pigeonholing him into a defacto point guard now?

I'm also on Holland now as well. Holland and Clingan are my top 2.
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Post#70 » by nate33 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:41 pm

Somehow, Clingan and Edey have the same standing reach of 9'7" even though Edey is 2 inches taller and has 4 inches longer wingspan. I'm thinking Clingan actually has longer arms but Edey just has a wider torso.
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Post#71 » by Kanyewest » Mon May 13, 2024 3:44 pm

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nate33 wrote:If Clingan can shoot 3's, that makes him potentially Brook Lopez.

I guess the question is, even if he is Brook Lopez, do you take Brook Lopez with the 2nd pick in the draft? Lopez made one All-Star game in his entire 16-year career.

Depends on the draft I suppose.
Hoopshype had Lopez going #3 in a NBA redraft of 2008 (behind Westbrook/Love but ahead of Rose and DeAndre Jordan). I would probably take Rose although Lopez still playing well up to this point.

Also would have been intrigued to see how his career turned out if he shot 3 earlier, Lopez only started shooting 3s 8 years ago.

Yes, that's the kind of discussion I wanted to have. I was not trying to disparage Clingan by comparing him to Lopez. I'm just saying Lopez is about as good as it gets for a drop coverage big. He's an exceptional rim protector who can also space the floor on offense better than most. My point is that he is still a "role player". He is an elite role player, perhaps, but not the foundation for a team. The Brook Lopezes of the league do not make All-Star games, and they are the kind of guys that are obtainable in trades and free agency.

Maybe that's the best we can hope for in this draft. I'm not discounting it. But if you think a guy like Holland, or Dillingham, or Sheppard, or Buzelis can pan out as a star, do you take them over the next Brook Lopez?


Maybe a peak version of Lopez who unlocks his defensive potential and 3 point shot much earlier.

That being said, I suppose I have Dillingham ahead of Clingan now though- although I could be convinced otherwise. Clingan only shot 25% from 3 - although KAT shot the same % when he was in college.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#72 » by Frichuela » Mon May 13, 2024 3:46 pm

Holland's measurements ain't bad. Taller than Jaylen Brown for example.

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Post#73 » by tontoz » Mon May 13, 2024 3:46 pm

Castle has to be taller than 6'2.5. must be a typo.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#74 » by Hibachi_0 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:01 pm

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Always felt Castle was taller than 6 2'5 tbh. In this pic he looks clearly taller than Rob and Reed. Might be the camera angle
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#75 » by tontoz » Mon May 13, 2024 4:08 pm

Hibachi_0 wrote:
Always felt Castle was taller than 6 2'5 tbh. In this pic he looks clearly taller than Rob and Reed. Might be the camera angle


Yeah I think castle is more than an inch taller then Sheppard.
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Post#76 » by Frichuela » Mon May 13, 2024 4:13 pm

This would make sense...

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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#77 » by Rafael122 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:17 pm

Sheppard, as of now, smallest hands, 6'1 with a 6'3'' wingspan.

Ron Holland is 18 years old, with shoes he's probably 6'8''. He will probably grow some more, so he has a legit shot at being 6'8'' w/out shoes and probably a 7 foot+ wingspan eventually.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#78 » by NatP4 » Mon May 13, 2024 4:25 pm

Sheppard measured 6'-1.75" with a 6'-3.25" wingspan
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#79 » by smoothSeph » Mon May 13, 2024 4:38 pm

Holland is the best of both worlds pick. You get an American prospect with a European name. Everyone's happy :D
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