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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#161 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue May 14, 2024 1:46 am

Dat2U wrote:Clingan is huge. Edey is huge. Edey I'd consider at 26. Clingan I'd consider late lottery/mid 1st. I will grade drop coverage Cs harder unless they can offer something special offensively.

Castle at 6-6 in shoes is good. As much as I've bashed him, he's been my #1 SG on the board the entire time. He's just not the guy I'd want at 2. I'd consider him mid to late lottery.



Geez. Is it just me, now that we know we are at 2, and I'm really looking at these guys knowing that... I'm having a hard time liking any of them. :banghead:
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#162 » by NatP4 » Tue May 14, 2024 1:58 am

I’m going Sheppard or Clingan if Topic is severely injured. Obviously try and trade down. Seems like Sheppard’s range is 5-10.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#163 » by J-Ves » Tue May 14, 2024 2:14 am

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Dat2U wrote:Clingan is huge. Edey is huge. Edey I'd consider at 26. Clingan I'd consider late lottery/mid 1st. I will grade drop coverage Cs harder unless they can offer something special offensively.

Castle at 6-6 in shoes is good. As much as I've bashed him, he's been my #1 SG on the board the entire time. He's just not the guy I'd want at 2. I'd consider him mid to late lottery.



Geez. Is it just me, now that we know we are at 2, and I'm really looking at these guys knowing that... I'm having a hard time liking any of them. :banghead:

number 2 is the worst place to be in this draft. Sarr is only only blue chip guy, everyone is is a diamond in the rough at best
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#164 » by DCZards » Tue May 14, 2024 2:24 am

Dat2U wrote:My top 3.

1. C Alexandre Sarr - rare switchability at 7-1 and willingness to shoot in a high volume at 19 gives you the makings a the ideal modern big.

2. SF Ron Holland - 6-8 with quick twitch athleticism, a hot motor and burgeoning shot creation skills provide a nice baseline to work with while the jumper develops.

3. PG Rob Dillingham - Biggest issue to me is not his height at 6-2 1/2 in shoes but the 164 weight. He must get stronger to be able to finish in the paint and not get overwhelmed defensively. Still he's the most skilled player in the draft, can play on or off the ball and displayed the PG skill to create shots for others.

That’s pretty much where I am. Although I have Dillingham and Castle rated about even. That 164lbs is indeed small.

Castle’s D, IQ and playmaking potential continue to be the reasons he’s on my shortlist.

The one thing you failed to mention about Holland was his defense. I was impressed by what I saw on film. Even seems to be a good and somewhat instinctive shot blocker, especially for a wing….averaged just over a block a game.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#165 » by machu46 » Tue May 14, 2024 3:05 am

I haven’t watched very much of this year’s class yet but I can totally see KOC’s Bones Hyland comp for Dillingham and that is not remotely what you want at #2. I watched a bunch of the non-college guys early in the year and wasn’t impressed with any of them and I know this year’s college crop is weak too…just a tough year for the draft but it sounds like Sarr had some serious development this year. I know Hollinger mentioned Sarr’s jumper has a sideways rotation to it though; not what you want to hear for a big that doesn’t seem to want to mix it up inside.


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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#166 » by dckingsfan » Tue May 14, 2024 3:07 am

NatP4 wrote:I’m going Sheppard or Clingan if Topic is severely injured. Obviously try and trade down. Seems like Sheppard’s range is 5-10.

I wonder how far Topic will fall - 26th? Or do you not take a chance? Hmmm
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#167 » by NatP4 » Tue May 14, 2024 3:18 am

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NatP4 wrote:I’m going Sheppard or Clingan if Topic is severely injured. Obviously try and trade down. Seems like Sheppard’s range is 5-10.

I wonder how far Topic will fall - 26th? Or do you not take a chance? Hmmm


If it’s a torn ACL and he’s going to miss all of next year, I think he’s still a lottery pick. Maybe 11/12/13/14 range? Admittedly, I would be a little scared off by an injury that severe at 18 years old.

If it’s another minor knee sprain, all of the sudden there’s actual validity to the injury prone narrative. Probably still drops to 7-12 range, right?

Think he was easily the best player in this class. Draft takes a huge hit.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#168 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue May 14, 2024 4:14 am

The Sporting News will keep a running list of prospect measurements as they are revealed at the 2024 NBA Draft Combine. Find the latest figures below.

This list will be updated as measurements are provided.

Player Height (without shoes) Weight (lbs) Wingspan Standing reach
Alexandre Sarr 6-11.75 224.2 7-4.25 9-2
Nikola Topic
Stephon Castle 6-2.25 193 6-8.75 8-2
Dalton Knecht 6-5.25 212.2 6-9 8-7.5
Ron Holland II 6-6.5 196.8 6-10.75 8-8
Zaccharie Risacher
Donovan Clingan 7-1.75 282 7-6.75 9-7
Rob Dillingham 6-1 164.2 6-3 7-11
Cody Williams 6-6.5 178.4 7-1 8-7
Reed Sheppard 6-1.75 181.6 6-3.25 7-9.5
Matas Buzelis 6-8.75 197 6-10 8-9.5
Isaiah Collier 6-2.5 204.6 6-4.75 8-1.5
Ja'Kobe Walter 6-4.25 197.6 6-10 8-6.5
Jared McCain 6-2 203.2 6-3.5 8-2
Zach Edey 7-3.75 299 7-10.75 9-7
Kevin McCullar Jr.. 6-5.25 205.8 6-9 8-7
Terrence Shannon Jr. 6-5.75 219.4 6-8.75 8-4
Devin Carter
Tidjane Salaun
Kyle Filipowski 6-10.75 229.8 6-10.5 8-11
DaRon Holmes II 6-8.75 236.2 7-1 9-0
Kyshawn George 6-7 208.8 6-10.25 8-9
Tristan da Silva 6-8.25 216.8 6-10.25 8-5.5
Kel'el Ware 6-11.75 230 7-4.5 9-4.5
Tyler Smith 6-8.75 223.8 7-1 8-9
Yves Missi 6-10.25 229.4 7-2 9-1.5
Ryan Dunn 6-6.25 213.6 7-1.5 8-7
Carlton Carrington 6-3.75 194.8 6-8 8-3
Jaylon Tyson 6-5.5 218.2 6-8 8-6.5
Tyler Kolek 6-1.25 196.6 6-2.75 6-11
Hunter Sallis 6-3.5 179.5 6-9.75 8-4.5
Trey Alexander 6-3.25 187 6-10.5 8-5.5
Dillon Jones 6-4.5 236.8 6-11 8-4.5
Izan Almansa 6-9.25 219.6 7-1 9-2
Pacome Dadiet
Harrison Ingram 6-5.25 233.6 7-0.25 8-6.5
PJ Hall 6-8.25 239.6 7-1.5 8-7.5
Mark Sears 5-10.25 192.4 6-2 7-8
Bobi Klintman 6-8.5 212.2 6-11 8-10.5
Melvin Ajinca
Nikola Djurisic 6-7 208.8 6-8 8-6.5
Johnny Furphy
Oso Ighodaro 6-9.5 222 6-11 8-8.5
KJ Simpson 6-0.25 187 6-4.5 7-9.5
Baylor Scheierman 6-6.25 201.6 6-8.25 8-6.5
Bronny James 6-1.5 210.4 6-7.25 8-2.5
Tristen Newton 6-3.25 191.8 6-6.75 8-4
Justin Edwards 6-6 209.4 6-10 8-6.5
Keshad Johnson 6-6.25 224 6-10.25 8-7
Adem Bona 6-8.25 243.2 7-3.75 9-0
Ajay Mitchell 6-3.25 197 6-6.5 8-5
Jamal Shead 6-0.25 200.8 6-3 8-0
Trevon Brazile 6-9.25 215 7-3.75 9-0.5
Payton Sandifort 6-6.25 212 6-8.25 8-8
Cam Spencer 6-3 201.8 6-5 8-2.5
Tyon Grant-Foster 6-5.75 215.2 6-11.75 8-8
Pelle Larsson 6-5.25 212.4 6-7.5 8-6
Jalen Bridges 6-6.75 213.4 6-10 8-9
N'Faly Dante 6-10 260.2 7-6 9-3
Alex Karaban 6-6.5 219.2 6-11 8-10.5
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#169 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue May 14, 2024 4:49 am

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Post#170 » by 9 and 20 » Tue May 14, 2024 11:42 am

With Topic suffering a So Wiz injury, trying to learn about these other dudes. Is Holland comparable to OG Anunoby? Or is he more RJ Barrett? If it's the former, I think him and Bilal would be fun to watch. If it's the latter, my eyes may bleed from the pain of going through a 15 win season for what.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#171 » by NatP4 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:08 pm

Karaban shot the lights out (as he did all season), and measured with a 6’11” wingspan and 8’10.5” standing reach. Legit NBA wing size. Still just 21 years old. Another good option at #26.

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Post#172 » by tontoz » Tue May 14, 2024 12:24 pm

Apparently Yves Missi really showed out yesterday, 38.5" vert and 3.12 on the sprint. His jumper looked good too.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#173 » by DCZards » Tue May 14, 2024 12:36 pm

9 and 20 wrote:With Topic suffering a So Wiz injury, trying to learn about these other dudes. Is Holland comparable to OG Anunoby? Or is he more RJ Barrett? If it's the former, I think him and Bilal would be fun to watch. If it's the latter, my eyes may bleed from the pain of going through a 15 win season for what.

That’s a very good question. Because I’ve heard both OG and Barrett raised regarding Holland.

Most have him closer to Anunoby because he’s a better athlete and much better defender than Barrett. Yes, Bilal and Holland would be fun to watch on defense.
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Post#174 » by DCZards » Tue May 14, 2024 12:39 pm

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Castle right behind Karaban on 3pt shooting at 72%.

Carlton Carrington’s shooting #s look good. He might be someone to consider at 26. I expect to see him climbing in the draft…may end up 15-20.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#175 » by machu46 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:49 pm

9 and 20 wrote:With Topic suffering a So Wiz injury, trying to learn about these other dudes. Is Holland comparable to OG Anunoby? Or is he more RJ Barrett? If it's the former, I think him and Bilal would be fun to watch. If it's the latter, my eyes may bleed from the pain of going through a 15 win season for what.


I'd hardly consider myself an expert on this year's class at the moment but I don't think Holland is really anything like RJ Barrett. I've always liked Hoop Intellect's YouTube videos and I think his comparisons of Holland to Gerald Wallace and Tari Eason make sense. Holland is probably who I would lean towards as the #1 prospect in the draft right now, particularly for a team like Washington that can presumably play the long game a bit. Still have a lot of other guys to watch but I prefer him over Sarr, Castle, Topic, and Clingan.
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Post#176 » by NatP4 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:58 pm

Castle shot it really well. Don’t think people are talking about it enough. Measured with a solidly + wingspan as well.
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Post#177 » by Rafael122 » Tue May 14, 2024 1:01 pm

Can I just say something? Castle seems to be high on folks draft board, but he's a guard WHO CAN'T SHOOT. But folks are willing to overlook that why? Whereas with Clingan, yes, old school center, I get it, but why aren't we giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him developing a 3 point shot?
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#178 » by NatP4 » Tue May 14, 2024 1:35 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Can I just say something? Castle seems to be high on folks draft board, but he's a guard WHO CAN'T SHOOT. But folks are willing to overlook that why? Whereas with Clingan, yes, old school center, I get it, but why aren't we giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him developing a 3 point shot?


Clingan’s YouTube highlights aren’t flashy enough.
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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#179 » by gambitx777 » Tue May 14, 2024 1:37 pm

https://youtu.be/FmVNmKVE8lc?si=aelml3nYpbQ2GB_1

Sounds like execs are trying to evacuate this draft. Could be a good time to sell Kuz and maybe even poole shammaet for good value.

So still doing work and watching tape but my top top 10 right now.

Donovan Clingan Ucon C

Reed Sheppard UK PG

Rob Dillingham UK PG

Nikola Topić red star PG

Kyle Filipowski Duke C

Alexandre Sarr purth PF/C

Cody Williams Colorado SF

Isaiah Collier USC PG

Dalton Knecht T SF

Zaccharie Risacher JL Bourg SF

I think clingan is the ****ing truth! Plenty of good PG who can pass and shoot, but won't get killed on D. I am not a Sarr believer yet. I just don't see it. I don't care for risacher. Williams and Kencht are gonna get second contracts because they can shoot! I think filipowaki has a future.






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Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#180 » by JAR69 » Tue May 14, 2024 1:46 pm

NatP4 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Can I just say something? Castle seems to be high on folks draft board, but he's a guard WHO CAN'T SHOOT. But folks are willing to overlook that why? Whereas with Clingan, yes, old school center, I get it, but why aren't we giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him developing a 3 point shot?


Clingan’s YouTube highlights aren’t flashy enough.


I think Clingan can develop a 3 point shot (and Castle can become a good enough shooter), I just don't think Clingan can develop quick enough feet to be anything more than a drop coverage defender.
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