2024 Draft Thread - Part II

[nate33]

If both Sarr and Holland are still on the board at #2, I'd be willing to trade down with the Spurs at #4. The logic being that the Spurs are probably leaning towards a PG (and the Rockets might be too) so I'd still get either Holland or Sarr at #4.

[NatP4]

If both Sarr and Holland are still on the board at #2, I'd be willing to trade down with the Spurs at #4. The logic being that the Spurs are probably leaning towards a PG (and the Rockets might be too) so I'd still get either Holland or Sarr at #4.

I’d be shocked if Holland goes top 5.

[Dat2U]

If both Sarr and Holland are still on the board at #2, I'd be willing to trade down with the Spurs at #4. The logic being that the Spurs are probably leaning towards a PG (and the Rockets might be too) so I'd still get either Holland or Sarr at #4.

I’d be shocked if Holland goes top 5.

And I'd be shocked he doesn't. It's OK to assume not everyone shares your exact thoughts on these prospects.

[NatP4]

Doesn’t look too bad on the replay:

Watch on YouTube

[NatP4]

If both Sarr and Holland are still on the board at #2, I'd be willing to trade down with the Spurs at #4. The logic being that the Spurs are probably leaning towards a PG (and the Rockets might be too) so I'd still get either Holland or Sarr at #4.

I’d be shocked if Holland goes top 5.

And I'd be shocked he doesn't. It's OK to assume not everyone shares your exact thoughts on these prospects.

Of course, emphasis on the “I” part.

Haven’t seen Holland top 5 in hardly any updated mock drafts.

[tontoz]

If we stay at 2 whoever we pick will feel like a reach.

If Atlanta doesn't take Sarr they will probably trade for someone that will.

[Frichuela]

If we stay at 2 whoever we pick will feel like a reach.

If Atlanta doesn't take Sarr they will probably trade for someone that will.

This. Agreed. Let’s trust this front office to nail it and pick the BPA.

[daSwami]

Rob Dillingham - 6' 1" 164 lb. - that's tiny. The Brandon Jennings comp sounds about right, that is, not worth taking at #2. I assume all this Ron Holland love is a grass-roots attempt to fool the Hawks into taking him #1, so Sarr falls into our lap, but we take Clingan anyway because he's BPA.

[closg00]

Eagerly awaiting to see who we actually workout

[Endless Loop]

Basing this mainly on what people here have said-

I'd draft Sheppard, because his shooting is significantly better than the best of the best. I don't care that he's only 6'1. You can teach people to improve their shooting, but what Sheppard has is a rare gift. Just because you can't see it or measure it like wingspan doesn't make it less real.

#2 is Castle, mainly based on what everyone says about his character, which, combined with his tools, gives him huge upside.

Dawkins is 0-for-2 on French wings IMO. Risacher would make it 0-3. Maybe he has that extra fire, though, that Coulibaly and Dieng seem to lack, though it's still early for both.

[doclinkin]

Somehow, Clingan and Edey have the same standing reach of 9'7" even though Edey is 2 inches taller and has 4 inches longer wingspan. I'm thinking Clingan actually has longer arms but Edey just has a wider torso.

Yes. Clingan has narrow shoulders. Edey is just massive.

[doclinkin]

Some strength and agility measurements are trickling in:

Name - lane agility - standing vert - max vert
Buzelis: 10.84, 32.0", 38.0" - outstanding lane agility
Holland: 11.13, 30.0", 38.0" - solid across the board
Sarr: 11.43, 30.5", 37.0" - impressive leaping for a 7-footer
Edey: 11.19, 26.0", 31.5" - way more agile than I expected
Clingan: 12.06, 25.5", 29.0"
McCain: 10.87, 25.5", 33.0" - lousy standing vertical for a guard

This is where you have to question the effectiveness of the lane agility test. It can be practiced and gamed. There's no way Edey has quicker feet than Sarr.

Not really. Edey grew up playing hockey. He has no problem shuttling backwards and laterally. He takes small balanced and efficient steps, staying upright. Most Bigs try for speed by leaning in each direction. Edey stays above his feet, floats in a small space, it may look awkward but it is quicker and better for change of direction. It is partly how he doesn't foul, he is never out of control despite his size.

[doclinkin]

I still think there's a strong chance Zach Edey is rookie of the year.

[nate33]

I’d be shocked if Holland goes top 5.

And I'd be shocked he doesn't. It's OK to assume not everyone shares your exact thoughts on these prospects.

Of course, emphasis on the “I” part.

Haven’t seen Holland top 5 in hardly any updated mock drafts.

Give it a few days. After these combine measurements and Topic's injury, I expect Holland to move up while Dillingham and Topic move down.

[nate33]

Unconfirmed rumor that Holland has character issues:

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxT5LxrMINrflPdiXa2budM8Upbggccewq

[Dat2U]

I still think there's a strong chance Zach Edey is rookie of the year.

I would agree... with the caveat he goes to the right situation where:

A. He doesn't have much comp for minutes
B. A coach willing to feed him in the post.

On a per minute basis, he'll be outstanding. The catch 22 is teams putting him in the P&R chamber for non-stop open looks.

[nate33]

I still think there's a strong chance Zach Edey is rookie of the year.

I would agree... with the caveat he goes to the right situation where:

A. He doesn't have much comp for minutes
B. A coach willing to feed him in the post.

On a per minute basis, he'll be outstanding. The catch 22 is teams putting him in the P&R chamber for non-stop open looks.

...particularly in the playoffs.

[Dat2U]

My top 3.

1. C Alexandre Sarr - rare switchability at 7-1 and willingness to shoot in a high volume at 19 gives you the makings a the ideal modern big.

2. SF Ron Holland - 6-8 with quick twitch athleticism, a hot motor and burgeoning shot creation skills provide a nice baseline to work with while the jumper develops.

3. PG Rob Dillingham - Biggest issue to me is not his height at 6-2 1/2 in shoes but the 164 weight. He must get stronger to be able to finish in the paint and not get overwhelmed defensively. Still he's the most skilled player in the draft, can play on or off the ball and displayed the PG skill to create shots for others.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Doesn’t look too bad on the replay:

Watch on YouTube

No, that looked REALLY bad!

Just when I was starting to warm up to Topic.

Last thing we need is for the top of this draft to get even weaker.

[Dat2U]

Clingan is huge. Edey is huge. Edey I'd consider at 26. Clingan I'd consider late lottery/mid 1st. I will grade drop coverage Cs harder unless they can offer something special offensively.

Castle at 6-6 in shoes is good. As much as I've bashed him, he's been my #1 SG on the board the entire time. He's just not the guy I'd want at 2. I'd consider him mid to late lottery.