The RealGM Wizards Board Draft Thread 2008/2009

Post #1401 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Apr 1, 2009 11:03 pm

Considering this: Jeff Capel might be the next head coach of Arizona. That alone might make Griffin bolt to the pros.

closg00 · Post #1402 » by **closg00** » Wed Apr 1, 2009 11:32 pm

LyricalRico wrote:DCZards on the wrong side of the facts? Imagine that...

Love ya Zard

AgentOvechkin08 · Post #1403 » by **AgentOvechkin08** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 4:35 am

Any possibility we can package our 2nd rounder to get rid of some bad contracts? I mean it is basically a late 1st?

Post #1404 » by **TheSecretWeapon** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:22 pm

AgentOvechkin08 wrote:Any possibility we can package our 2nd rounder to get rid of some bad contracts? I mean it is basically a late 1st?

Doubtful that a team would take on a bad contract in exchange for a 2nd round pick -- even if that pick is early 2nd round. Plus, with Ernie's 2nd round draft pick record (Michael Redd, Blatche, McGuire) it might make more sense for Ernie to use the pick to select a player.

Post #1405 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:42 pm

Unless they make a 2 for 1 trade, it wouldn't surprise me (though it would make me bitter) if they sell the 2nd rounder - like last year. I believe they already have 14 players they are obligated to pay next season. Or do the old stash the guy in Europe plan.

queridiculo · Post #1406 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:29 pm

Ruzious wrote:Unless they make a 2 for 1 trade, it wouldn't surprise me (though it would make me bitter) if they sell the 2nd rounder - like last year. I believe they already have 14 players they are obligated to pay next season. Or do the old stash the guy in Europe plan.

If Mike James, Pecherov, and Juan Dixon are still on this roster next year I'm going to puke.

I sure as hell hope that contractual obligations aren't going to keep us from picking up a 2nd round steal.

Post #1407 » by **Rafael122** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:42 pm

I think OPEC's option got picked up, and James will probably be used as trade bait next season. Dixon I don't see coming back so that opens up a roster spot.

BigA · Post #1408 » by **BigA** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:49 pm

Yeah, James and Pecherov are both expiring next year.

Plus, even if the Wizards don't win the Blake Griffin sweepstakes, they can bring Veermenko over as that final puzzle piece. The "straw that stirs the drink" as it were.

no D in Hibachi · Post #1409 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 4:54 pm

BigA wrote:Yeah, James and Pecherov are both expiring next year.

Plus, even if the Wizards don't win the Blake Griffin sweepstakes, they can bring Veermenko over as that final puzzle piece. The "straw that stirs the drink" as it were.

Veermanko was overmatched in the Vegas Summer League last year. There is no way he ever makes the Wiz. If Pech can't crack the rotation how is Veermenko going to even be considered for the Wiz, especially over a top second round pick?

BigA · Post #1410 » by **BigA** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:04 pm

^wuz kiddin', sorry

Post #1411 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 8:38 pm

hermitkid wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Unless they make a 2 for 1 trade, it wouldn't surprise me (though it would make me bitter) if they sell the 2nd rounder - like last year. I believe they already have 14 players they are obligated to pay next season. Or do the old stash the guy in Europe plan.

If Mike James, Pecherov, and Juan Dixon are still on this roster next year I'm going to puke.

I sure as hell hope that contractual obligations aren't going to keep us from picking up a 2nd round steal.

I think Dixon is the only one on our current roster that's coming off. That leaves only a spot for our first round pick. I don't see them eating anyone's contract, so that leaves making a trade to open up a spot. And I concur with your sentiments 100%.

pancakes3 · Post #1412 » by **pancakes3** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 9:06 pm

Dixon's the only expiring unless James opts out (0% chance). This probably means selling the 2nd rounder again. last year we sell bill walker. this year we sell danny green. if you need me, i'll be boozing away the off-season with doc.

Post #1413 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 12:51 am

If they plan to sell the 2nd round pick, I hope they instead use the pick as incentive to trim some salary. Maybe they could do something like tradeJames' 6.4M contract plus the 2nd rounder to Atlanta for Claxton's $5.2M contract. Instead of selling the pick for a million or so, they would instead get $1.2M in cap savings, which is doubled because of the luxtax.

But an even better move would be to see if we can give Pecherov away. Just give him to some under the cap team (or an over the cap team with a trade exemption). That would save $1.5M (doubled because of the tax) while also freeing up a roster spot so we can use our 2nd round pick.

ZonkertheBrainless · Post #1414 » by **ZonkertheBrainless** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 3:27 am

Well, that's pure genius. Didn't the guy we sold to the celtics make their roster? If you're so fricking good at making second round picks, why sell them?

Post #1415 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 3:42 am

Because we don't have the roster space?

If we get Griffin, what are we gonna do with the 2nd round pick? Even if we had like 2 roster spots available, the front court is deep, and the backcourt...you've got what...4-5 guys in the backcourt? Where's he going to play?

Post #1416 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 4:28 am

Rafael122 wrote:Because we don't have the roster space?

If we get Griffin, what are we gonna do with the 2nd round pick? Even if we had like 2 roster spots available, the front court is deep, and the backcourt...you've got what...4-5 guys in the backcourt? Where's he going to play?

Exactly. A team can only have 15 players under contract. We already have 14 players locked into contracts through next season. The only way to sign our second rounder is to cut a guaranteed contract player, or to trade 2 for 1. I suppose we could cut Etan.

(As an aside, it's funny how so many announcers and sportswriters continue to mention Etan's injury as one of the reasons for our losing, when we all know that we're actually better off when he doesn't even dress. I wonder how many casual fans will be surprised if we unceremoniously cut Etan just to make room for a 2nd round pick.)

no D in Hibachi · Post #1417 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 4:45 am

nate33 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Because we don't have the roster space?

If we get Griffin, what are we gonna do with the 2nd round pick? Even if we had like 2 roster spots available, the front court is deep, and the backcourt...you've got what...4-5 guys in the backcourt? Where's he going to play?

Exactly. A team can only have 15 players under contract. We already have 14 players locked into contracts through next season. The only way to sign our second rounder is to cut a guaranteed contract player, or to trade 2 for 1. I suppose we could cut Etan.

(As an aside, it's funny how so many announcers and sportswriters continue to mention Etan's injury as one of the reasons for our losing, when we all know that we're actually better off when he doesn't even dress. I wonder how many casual fans will be surprised if we unceremoniously cut Etan just to make room for a 2nd round pick.)

More like every person who posts on the Wizards blog on Washingtonpost.com. I swear 95% of those numb-skulls have no clue. Nearly every blog entry someone brings up Etan, how he's missed, and how great he'd be at the 4-spot. It's a crime that the people who post about the Wiz on Washpost.com are so foolish.

Post #1418 » by **nate33** » Sun Apr 5, 2009 4:01 am

I gotta admit, I really love the way Ruzious' boy Danny Green plays. He's a fabulous role player. He does everything right with no mistakes and no wasted motion. He kinda reminds me of Rick Fox or Shane Battier (minus an inch).

You always have to wonder whether a college role player has the talent to make it in the pros, but if anybody can do it, Danny Green can. He's plays great D, rebounds well, and shoots well with a very quick release. If he's still on the board at #32, I'd definitely like to pick him up.

mhd · Post #1419 » by **mhd** » Sun Apr 5, 2009 4:33 am

Accidently posted this in the tank thread:

With this team, I think Buddinger would be the best pick (NOT in the top 5), as a SG/SF. He's plenty athletic, he can shoot it, and he plays an NBA game. I don't like Henderson. Its a feeling with me. I know he played great before the tourney, but his game SCREAMS "nothing special" 2g. He'll be a good defender and he's got a good midrange game.

We already have our SG, his name is DMAC.
For the bench, we need a shooter. Buddinger is a very good shooter, except he can do othere things (finish around the rim, handle, rebound, and pass). I think Chase will be a top 10 pick when the draft rolls around.

Post #1420 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Apr 5, 2009 2:31 pm

nate33 wrote:I gotta admit, I really love the way Ruzious' boy Danny Green plays. He's a fabulous role player. He does everything right with no mistakes and no wasted motion. He kinda reminds me of Rick Fox or Shane Battier (minus an inch).

You always have to wonder whether a college role player has the talent to make it in the pros, but if anybody can do it, Danny Green can. He's plays great D, rebounds well, and shoots well with a very quick release. If he's still on the board at #32, I'd definitely like to pick him up.

There ya go. If Ellington comes out, it'll be interesting to see if he goes before Green.