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Bradley Beal - Part IV

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#21 » by NatP4 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 3:39 am

Beal is going to request a trade in a couple of days. Guarantee it.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#22 » by FAH1223 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:04 am

NatP4 wrote:Beal is going to request a trade in a couple of days. Guarantee it.


Put money on it. :lol:
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#23 » by pancakes3 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:42 pm

no one saying beal was snubbed anymore. he's just not an all star.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#24 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:10 pm

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Frichuela wrote:As expected Beal ain’t no all star this year. Pls trade his sorry ass out of town..

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Middleton is surprising. He’s missed time with COVID and injuries.

I was expecting one of the Hornets (Ball or Bridges) to get that spot.

As for Brad, he had no chance being an All Star with his sucky his first 15-20 games were.

I thought Jrue would get it over Middleton. (Jrue killed us down the stretch in our recent game against them BTW.)
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#25 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:21 pm

dlts20 wrote:That has to be the most humbling/humiliating thing ever. Once you reach brads level, especially what he did last year, you aren't supposed to fall off like this, especially when you are in your prime. I'm still upset that he's not addressing it more and the local media isn't on his asz. Again, we hold the president of the United States foot to the fire in this city but no one bombard him with questions on his lackluster play, especially when he keeps speaking of giving the franchise every chance like he's lebron or KD... Smh

He gets asked why he isn't playing well all the time. Do you want the press pool to beat him to death or something? What are they supposed to say? What are you expecting him to say in response? It's not like he wants to play poorly.

The guy who deserves questions is Sheppard (and Ted). Someone needs to ask them why they think it makes sense to pay a non-All-Star $45M a year.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#26 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:26 pm

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WallToWall wrote:He should not get max $, much less super max $. But, who know what Teddy is thinking. Will Beal take less than max $ to stay with the Wizards? I hope he does, but when other teams offer much more, he will most likely bolt. I do hope he doesn’t sign for 4yrs $182.5M deal that is currently on the table, because that will really hinder our chances of even building a championship team. It’s a loose-loose from a team perspective.If he signs for much less than that, we may stand a better chance to build a championship team.


If you got rid of the Bertans and Dinwiddie albatross contracts, the Wizards could create a max slot in 2023 rather easily even WITH Beal making $45M.

We would also have to go through next season with a stopgap PG and a stop gap center on 1-year deals. And we'd probably have to renounce Hachimura in 2023. But, yes, there's a path to max cap room even after maxing Beal. Our prospective signee would be joining a team of:

PG Beal
SG Kispert
SF Avdija
PF Kuzma
C Gafford
Bench: Todd, 2022 1st, 2023 1st.

Do you think we could get Jokic to sign with us? He is pretty much the only guy who could turn that team into a title contender.

Of course, the hard part is unloading Bertans and Dinwiddie - particularly Bertans.
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Post#27 » by closg00 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 7:44 pm

There is zero basis for Beal demanding a Super Max contract, from us or anyone else.
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Post#28 » by nate33 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:21 pm

closg00 wrote:There is zero basis for Beal demanding a Super Max contract, from us or anyone else.

One thing that makes this tricky is that Beal has a player option.

Beal: Give me a supermax.

Sheppard: I'm not giving you a supermax and I'm calling your bluff that you won't go play for Detroit or Orlando"

Beal: You are right about that. I'll just opt in on my final year at $36M and leave in 2023.

Sheppard: ...
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Post#29 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sat Feb 5, 2022 9:15 pm

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closg00 wrote:There is zero basis for Beal demanding a Super Max contract, from us or anyone else.

One thing that makes this tricky is that Beal has a player option.

Beal: Give me a supermax.

Sheppard: I'm not giving you a supermax and I'm calling your bluff that you won't go play for Detroit or Orlando"

Beal: You are right about that. I'll just opt in on my final year at $36M and leave in 2023.

Sheppard: ...


But does it really give Beal that much leverage going that route, if any? The threat of doing so and making the franchise regret it is dependent on him playing good enough to give us "non-buyers remorse." He will also be another year older as undersized two who hasn't been able to break out of a shooting slump from 3 point point range in four seasons running and whose game has been hurt by the rule changes that made him much more of an efficient player before this season. Also even if we traded him as an expiring, wouldn't he still be highly incentivized to sign with where ever he was traded to because they would be able to give him the most money (I'm no NBA contract expert)?

Yeah, he could technically threaten to just walk or swear that he wouldn't resign with whoever we traded him to thus destroying our ability to get any substantial return back, I just find it highly improbably he maneuvers that one without shooting himself in the foot somewhere along the line. I just don't see it happening that way, though I'd love to see our front office get in a staring contest with him at this point than resign him to a boat anchor deal.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#30 » by AFM » Sat Feb 5, 2022 10:01 pm

Can somebody explain what a "four season shooting slump" is?
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Post#31 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:01 am

AFM wrote:Can somebody explain what a "four season shooting slump" is?


Last four seasons he's shot 35.1%, 35.5%, 34.9%, and now 30.0% from three after starting his career with 3 season of 40+% and 2 others nearly at 39%. He shot 37.5% when 2017-2018 and has kind of stunk since then for someone who was known for being a good shooter.

Put simply, Beal doesn't excel enough in other areas to weather a drop in his three point percentage in 4 of the last 5 seasons and it not reduce his effectiveness as a player. Factor in that he wants the super max player, and well there's going to be a good deal of emphasis placed on it, especially for an undersized guard that will need to be able to hurt teams by shooting at a high clip as he ages.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#32 » by AFM » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:16 am

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AFM wrote:Can somebody explain what a "four season shooting slump" is?


Last four seasons he's shot 35.1%, 35.5%, 34.9%, and now 30.0% from three after starting his career with 3 season of 40+% and 2 others nearly at 39%. He shot 37.5% when 2017-2018 and has kind of stunk since then for someone who was known for being a good shooter.

Put simply, Beal doesn't excel enough in other areas to weather a drop in his three point percentage in 4 of the last 5 seasons and it not reduce his effectiveness as a player. Factor in that he wants the super max player, and well there's going to be a good deal of emphasis placed on it, especially for an undersized guard that will need to be able to hurt teams by shooting at a high clip as he ages.


I understand. My point is, at a certain point we have to consider that maybe it isn’t a slump, just who he is at this point in his career
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#33 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sun Feb 6, 2022 12:20 am

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CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
AFM wrote:Can somebody explain what a "four season shooting slump" is?


Last four seasons he's shot 35.1%, 35.5%, 34.9%, and now 30.0% from three after starting his career with 3 season of 40+% and 2 others nearly at 39%. He shot 37.5% when 2017-2018 and has kind of stunk since then for someone who was known for being a good shooter.

Put simply, Beal doesn't excel enough in other areas to weather a drop in his three point percentage in 4 of the last 5 seasons and it not reduce his effectiveness as a player. Factor in that he wants the super max player, and well there's going to be a good deal of emphasis placed on it, especially for an undersized guard that will need to be able to hurt teams by shooting at a high clip as he ages.


I understand. My point is, at a certain point we have to consider that maybe it isn’t a slump, just who he is at this point in his career


Ah gotcha. But yeah no, great point, it's now basically the narrative of his second half of his career.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#34 » by 9 and 20 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 2:19 am

Beal got to watch this one last tragic attempt at basketball before the trade deadline. We kept it close for 2 quarters. I think that was probably enough to convince Beal that we're almost there, just need that last piece to make us championship contenders.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#35 » by jangles86 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 2:41 am

Beal to anywhere…
Time to head in another direction from this Beal era.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#37 » by Halcyon » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:05 pm

Why do I have this feeling that they will still sign him to a supermax, and trade the young assets (including this tanked-earned pick) in the offseason.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#38 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:08 pm

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part IV 

Post#39 » by Gig18 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 10:09 pm

So, there you have it. done for the year.
Now what? You wait to see if you can re-sign him and continue to sink the entire rest of this year?
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