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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#681 » by tontoz » Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:02 am

queridiculo wrote:Is Johnny Davis the biggest Wizards lottery bust draft pick ever?

I don't quite recall a player that looked like a total waste of a draft pick from the first time I've seen him perform in summer league.

Tommy Sheppard wrote:He is a dog.


Equal parts cringe and truth bomb.

About the only thing he got right during his tenure.



Jan Vesely says high. Sad that both of the wizards first round picks in 2011 were out of the league in 3 years.
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#682 » by queridiculo » Mon Mar 4, 2024 5:59 pm

tontoz wrote:
queridiculo wrote:Is Johnny Davis the biggest Wizards lottery bust draft pick ever?

I don't quite recall a player that looked like a total waste of a draft pick from the first time I've seen him perform in summer league.

Tommy Sheppard wrote:He is a dog.


Equal parts cringe and truth bomb.

About the only thing he got right during his tenure.



Jan Vesely says high. Sad that both of the wizards first round picks in 2011 were out of the league in 3 years.


Vesely had a stretch where he at least looked like he could be a player in the league.
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#683 » by pancakes3 » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:10 pm

Kwame underperformed but wasn't useless.

Ared Effries, same. (how long have we been posting that there's an in-joke for someone drafted in 2002?). Kind of a sad story where he gave up a promising front office position (scout to director of player personnel in 3 years) with the Nuggets to go run Rick Fox's esports team, which folded 2 years after he joined because the owners were feuding.

Out of Arvis at 10, Devin H arris at 5, Opec at 18, Nick Young at 16, and McGee at 18, only Opec was really a bust.

Wall, Beal, and Porter worked out, Jan Vesely didn't.

Troy Brown at 15, Rui at 9, Deni at 9, and Kispert at 15 are all viable players in the league to varying degrees.

Johnny Davis is a 10th overall, and he's probably better than Jan and Opec, but only marginally so.

Jan's career high was 16 pts on 8-8 shooting, with 6r, 1a, and 4steals, which is also his best game by B-R's game score (18.7).

OPec's career high was 15 pts on 6-8 shooting and 5 boards, fouling out after 23 mins of play.
OPec's best game was 13 pts and 5 boards on 5-9 shooting (0a, 0s, 0b, 0 TO, 0 PF) - 11.4 GmSC

Davis's career high is 20 pts on 9-17 shooting, with 5 boards 4 assists 2 steals 2 blocks, also his best game score (17.2) - this is what Jalen Williams averages.

And not to beat a dead horse but there were plenty of players from that draft available that the 10 spot that panned out to be really impressive (Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray).
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#684 » by tontoz » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:13 pm

pancakes3 wrote:And not to beat a dead horse but there were plenty of players from that draft available that the 10 spot that panned out to be really impressive (Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray).


That's what really hurts :(
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#685 » by Kanyewest » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:45 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Kwame underperformed but wasn't useless.

Ared Effries, same. (how long have we been posting that there's an in-joke for someone drafted in 2002?). Kind of a sad story where he gave up a promising front office position (scout to director of player personnel in 3 years) with the Nuggets to go run Rick Fox's esports team, which folded 2 years after he joined because the owners were feuding.

Out of Arvis at 10, Devin H arris at 5, Opec at 18, Nick Young at 16, and McGee at 18, only Opec was really a bust.

Wall, Beal, and Porter worked out, Jan Vesely didn't.

Troy Brown at 15, Rui at 9, Deni at 9, and Kispert at 15 are all viable players in the league to varying degrees.

Johnny Davis is a 10th overall, and he's probably better than Jan and Opec, but only marginally so.

Jan's career high was 16 pts on 8-8 shooting, with 6r, 1a, and 4steals, which is also his best game by B-R's game score (18.7).

OPec's career high was 15 pts on 6-8 shooting and 5 boards, fouling out after 23 mins of play.
OPec's best game was 13 pts and 5 boards on 5-9 shooting (0a, 0s, 0b, 0 TO, 0 PF) - 11.4 GmSC

Davis's career high is 20 pts on 9-17 shooting, with 5 boards 4 assists 2 steals 2 blocks, also his best game score (17.2) - this is what Jalen Williams averages.

And not to beat a dead horse but there were plenty of players from that draft available that the 10 spot that panned out to be really impressive (Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren, Walker Kessler, Keegan Murray).


Interesting analysis. Only slight point was that Murray was taken at #4 but yeah the Davis pick is turning out to be worse than any recent one in history that I can remember.

Although maybe Davis can turn it around but it looks like he's a project which already makes the drafting of Davis a failure given that he was supposed to have lower potential than other players on the board but a higher floor.
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#686 » by doclinkin » Mon Mar 4, 2024 8:43 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Out of Arvis at 10, Devin H arris at 5, Opec at 18, Nick Young at 16, and McGee at 18, only Opec was really a bust.

Wall, Beal, and Porter worked out, Jan Vesely didn't.



Devin Harris worked out great for us since we traded that draft spot for Antawn Jamison, which ignited our high octane no-defense Hibachi offense. And prefigured the small-ball pace and space era.
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Re: The Official Johnny Davis Thread! 

Post#687 » by leswizards » Sat Apr 6, 2024 8:24 pm

A lot of hate for Johnny Davis in multiple threads with multiple posters ready to give up on him. I get it. He has been awful for 2 seasons.

However, he is under contract for next year, and he has been very good over his past 11 games. (Then again, maybe he has been so bad for his career, any improvement by him deceives me into thinking he is playing good basketball, when the truth is, he still sucks, but his level of sucking has decreased.)

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