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that's just (Please Use More Appropriate Word). lol 6-2 and under. I don't care how tall he is, all I care about is how he performed relative to people playing his position. showing me how ranks compared to Point guards. Don't give me that garbage. You think we should give wizards 5 extra points because lebron james is stronger and can jump higher than stevenson. is that a mental win in your books. Should we sit home and watch cleveland advance and tell ourself..."We actually won because stevenson was shorter than lebron so we should use a different standard when evaluating him to other SG's. Let me answer that question for...incorrect logic buddy. Its what you do on the court compared to the other guy on the court. So if you compared eddie, compare him to all point guards....so bring up your ignorant 6'2 and other stat when the NBA gives an opponent stats for being short. A blocked shot on a the perimeter..is outstanding defense whether you are tall or short and they both count the same. so if you wanna tell me that eddie ranked high in blocked shots for all point guards ever..then yeah...but go jump in a ditch and use the shovel to bury yourself if you think you 6'2 is going to give eddie a pass for being a pathetic shot blocker at the point guard position relative to his counterparts who play the PG position regardless of height lol.
I apologize. I thought I wouldn't need to explain that the height comparison was a proxy for position. Clearly I was wrong about that. A "proxy" by the way is a substitute. In other words, I used height because it would restrict the comparison to players most likely to play the same position and to be similar to Eddie Jordan. In this case, I thought that would be more efficient than combing through 30+ years worth of statistical data to identify which guys were PGs and which guys weren't. By "more efficient" I mean "taking less time." By "taking less time" I mean that I was able to do the search on Eddie's blocks in comparison with other similar players in about 5 minutes. Searching through 30 years worth of player data might have taken 5 weeks.
When I expand the height comparison to include players up to 6-5, I get guys like David Thompson, Otis Smith, Jo Jo English, Paul Pressey, Don Chaney, Michael Cooper, etc. These guys (and many, many others) collected in the search were SGs or SFs. These would not be appropriate comparisons to Eddie Jordan because they didn't play the same position, and they were not close to being similar players.
At 6-4, I get guys like David Thompson, Blue Edwards, Alvin Robertson, Fred Jones, Dell Curry, Cuttino Mobley, Sidney Moncrief, TR Dunn, Darrell Griffith, Byron Scott, Voshon Leonard, etc. None of these guys are/were PGs, so shouldn't really be included in the comparison, according to the criteria you've defined. It's worth nothing, though that Eddie blocked as many or more shots per minute than did SGs like Moncrief (widely regarded as one of the top perimeter defenders in NBA history), TR Dunn (a defensive specialist for the 80s Nuggets teams), Darrell Griffith (a terrific leaper and dunker with the 80s Jazz), and Byron Scott.
Sorta interesting to note that Eddie had as many or more per minute blocks for his career than did a number of guys who were 6, 7, and 8 inches taller than he was. AND MORE -- I just noticed that 6-11 Jarron Collins has basically the same number of per minute blocks as Eddie. In fact, I count 23 players in league history who were 6-9 or taller and had per minute blocks equal to or lower than Eddie Jordan's career per minute blocks. Just a reminder -- Eddie was 6-1. Perhaps I don't need to explain this, but just in case -- 6-1 is not as tall as 6-9 (or 6-10, or 6-11, or (in the case of Hank Finkel) 7-0).
I won't make the cut to 6-3, because doing so would leave out big PGs such as Jason Kidd (although Eddie blocked more shots per minute than Kidd). Even comparing Eddie to guys 6-4 and under (which includes a fair number of SGs (and, in the case of Blue Edwards at least, a SF), Eddie ranks in the top 30 in blocks per minute. What this means is that Eddie was a GOOD shot blocker among PGs.
What this also means is that you might want to take a few minutes to check and see whether what you're claiming as fact is...well...fact. Or, just ask questions. Looking up Eddie's info and comparing it to other similar players has actually been interesting. I've learned something about Eddie the player I didn't know before. I suspect the same is true for those who have read the stuff I've posted. So, thanks for raising the issue. But seriously, check the claims you want to make. You might learn something.