Re: 4/8: A parting shot -- Wiz @ mistake by the lake
Posted: Thu Apr 9, 2009 1:26 am
great game, it was fun! thanks for the confidence booster, we needed it.
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3peat wrote:great game, it was fun! thanks for the confidence booster, we needed it.
3peat wrote:great game, it was fun! thanks for the confidence booster, we needed it.
DaRealHibachi wrote:Gil not playing...??? Any reason...???
fishercob wrote:I'm a little surprised at all the righteous indignation over Gil 's sitting tonight, and these faux-bold pronouncements about him breaking down and the like. People, if we've learned anything -- anything -- about Gil over the years, it's to take basically everything he says with a grain of salt. Mike Lee reminded us of as much in a post on Insider this afternoon.
Yes, Gil originally said he was playing in Cleveland in Boston. Did Ernie say that? Did Tap? No. They've seen what they need to see to show them Gil's going to be the old Gil -- or at least a very very good player -- when he's back in game shape next year. They've said they want him playing at home for the fans that have endured this year. Yeah it would have been nice to have beaten the Cavs, but we got 'em last week and pissed them and their fans off plenty.
So relax, go watch some Gil highlights on the youtubes and plan some sacrifices to the basketball gods to get us Blake Griffin.
yungal07 wrote:Geez man give it a rest. How much whining do we have to endure because you don't like Gilbert? Maybe you should consider rooting for another team.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote: I liked them last season without Gilbert.
yungal07 wrote:Geez man give it a rest. How much whining do we have to endure because you don't like Gilbert? Maybe you should consider rooting for another team.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:All I have to say is I wish I could pull up the old posts from right before Gil re-signed.
I said he knew his body was breaking down and that it would be foolish to re-sign him for a lot of money, especially since he had not demonstrated that he was healthy.
He's got 5 more years and around 90 Mil coming from Abe's pockets.
Dat, I dropped Arenas from my fantasy team this week, but foolishly fell out of first place last week with him on my roster. No way would I have put any money on him, but I was really starting to pull for him again.
Dat2U wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote: I liked them last season without Gilbert.
Yeah, because that season was soooooooooo friggin wonderful. What I wouldn't give to get some of that 43-39 action followed by a 1st round playoff exit year after year.
I understand crapping on Gil for missing this game but lets not go overboard and say this team is better without him or more enjoyable. Because that's a big fat lie. There's nothing fun about watching a team struggle to get off a contested jumper as the shot clock is winding down 30 times a night. There's nothing fun about knowing that, even though half of the roster was having a career year, its likely to achieve nothing more than being 1st round fodder for the Cleveland's & Boston's of the world.
Fact is we need Gil back. If you want to live the past and talk about how your crystal ball said re-signing Gil was a bad idea, then fine. But that's getting old. The fact is were stuck with him whether you like it or not. Even if the Wizards were tired of him, they can't trade him. He's untradeable now and for the forseeable future. So what I'm going to do is root for the best, because if Gil isn't capable of being a #1 option anymore this franchise will be dead in the water for the next five years.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:fishercob wrote:I'm a little surprised at all the righteous indignation over Gil 's sitting tonight, and these faux-bold pronouncements about him breaking down and the like. People, if we've learned anything -- anything -- about Gil over the years, it's to take basically everything he says with a grain of salt. Mike Lee reminded us of as much in a post on Insider this afternoon.
Yes, Gil originally said he was playing in Cleveland in Boston. Did Ernie say that? Did Tap? No. They've seen what they need to see to show them Gil's going to be the old Gil -- or at least a very very good player -- when he's back in game shape next year. They've said they want him playing at home for the fans that have endured this year. Yeah it would have been nice to have beaten the Cavs, but we got 'em last week and pissed them and their fans off plenty.
So relax, go watch some Gil highlights on the youtubes and plan some sacrifices to the basketball gods to get us Blake Griffin.
fisher, I'm the one who said he was breaking down and I don't mean it as a faux bold announcement.
I'm sick of Gilbert. Sick of believing in my heart from day one that he would miss a ton of games and that the contract was a huge mistake. Now, I'm sick of the feeling that guy's holding everybody hostage.
He looked real under control distributing 20 assists with only 1 turnover, regardless of whether he had any explosive movement or not. What I'm really upset about is that the Wizards once let folks come to Verizon and pay expecting to see Arenas play and he didn't. Tonight, after several days rest and with him traveling to Cleveland he once again does not play. But "the knee is fine".
I'm really think that he's a prima donna and I'm sick of his act.
I've been a fan of this team 35 years and I liked them last season without Gilbert.
fishercob wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:fishercob wrote:I'm a little surprised at all the righteous indignation over Gil 's sitting tonight, and these faux-bold pronouncements about him breaking down and the like. People, if we've learned anything -- anything -- about Gil over the years, it's to take basically everything he says with a grain of salt. Mike Lee reminded us of as much in a post on Insider this afternoon.
Yes, Gil originally said he was playing in Cleveland in Boston. Did Ernie say that? Did Tap? No. They've seen what they need to see to show them Gil's going to be the old Gil -- or at least a very very good player -- when he's back in game shape next year. They've said they want him playing at home for the fans that have endured this year. Yeah it would have been nice to have beaten the Cavs, but we got 'em last week and pissed them and their fans off plenty.
So relax, go watch some Gil highlights on the youtubes and plan some sacrifices to the basketball gods to get us Blake Griffin.
fisher, I'm the one who said he was breaking down and I don't mean it as a faux bold announcement.
I'm sick of Gilbert. Sick of believing in my heart from day one that he would miss a ton of games and that the contract was a huge mistake. Now, I'm sick of the feeling that guy's holding everybody hostage.
He looked real under control distributing 20 assists with only 1 turnover, regardless of whether he had any explosive movement or not. What I'm really upset about is that the Wizards once let folks come to Verizon and pay expecting to see Arenas play and he didn't. Tonight, after several days rest and with him traveling to Cleveland he once again does not play. But "the knee is fine".
I'm really think that he's a prima donna and I'm sick of his act.
I've been a fan of this team 35 years and I liked them last season without Gilbert.
CCJ, first let me just say that I love you.
As to his injuries, I don't subscribe to the notion that Gil's breaking down. He's had two injuries during his career -- the deep ab strain and the knee. In both cases he hurt himself by trying to come back too soon and overworking himself. I don't think that makes him injury prone. I think much like D-Wade, Gil 2.0 is going to shock people with how good he is.
FreeBalling wrote:[quote="Manny Phresh"]DaRealHibachi wrote:Dude, we´re reacting to what you guys are saying on yall forum... Like pushin people down an escalator and stuff...
Hmmmm... I wonder why we would start a flame war with you guys... I have no clue...
Manny I like your persistence, did it ever cross your mind that our MODS are way cooler than on the Cavs site.
[/quote]Manny Phresh wrote:
Yeah, but are MODS would never allow a type a thread like this on our board... Classy right?
Benjammin wrote:Manny Phresh wrote:
Yeah, but are MODS would never allow a type a thread like this on our board... Classy right?
Dat2U wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote: I liked them last season without Gilbert.
Yeah, because that season was soooooooooo friggin wonderful. What I wouldn't give to get some of that 43-39 action followed by a 1st round playoff exit year after year.
I understand crapping on Gil for missing this game but lets not go overboard and say this team is better without him or more enjoyable. Because that's a big fat lie. There's nothing fun about watching a team struggle to get off a contested jumper as the shot clock is winding down 30 times a night. There's nothing fun about knowing that, even though half of the roster was having a career year, its likely to achieve nothing more than being 1st round fodder for the Cleveland's & Boston's of the world.
Fact is we need Gil back. If you want to live the past and talk about how your crystal ball said re-signing Gil was a bad idea, then fine. But that's getting old. The fact is were stuck with him whether you like it or not. Even if the Wizards were tired of him, they can't trade him. He's untradeable now and for the forseeable future. So what I'm going to do is root for the best, because if Gil isn't capable of being a #1 option anymore this franchise will be dead in the water for the next five years.
hands11 wrote:Dat2U wrote:Yeah, because that season was soooooooooo friggin wonderful. What I wouldn't give to get some of that 43-39 action followed by a 1st round playoff exit year after year.
I understand crapping on Gil for missing this game but lets not go overboard and say this team is better without him or more enjoyable. Because that's a big fat lie. There's nothing fun about watching a team struggle to get off a contested jumper as the shot clock is winding down 30 times a night. There's nothing fun about knowing that, even though half of the roster was having a career year, its likely to achieve nothing more than being 1st round fodder for the Cleveland's & Boston's of the world.
Fact is we need Gil back. If you want to live the past and talk about how your crystal ball said re-signing Gil was a bad idea, then fine. But that's getting old. The fact is were stuck with him whether you like it or not. Even if the Wizards were tired of him, they can't trade him. He's untradeable now and for the forseeable future. So what I'm going to do is root for the best, because if Gil isn't capable of being a #1 option anymore this franchise will be dead in the water for the next five years.
What's getting old is a hand full of posters here acting like that own this board telling others what is getting old.
Lets face it. Gil makes it easy to bitch about him. I've read and seen a lot of things recently that made we start to believe in a better more mature Gil. Now we have 2 things that make me question that. It's not a deal breaker but it's not a good trend. There are reasons he could have missed that we don't understand. Lets hope it's one of those because if it's just Gil being the old Gil, that would suck.
The last one was that. EG and Tapps didn't seem to know Gil wasn't going to play that last Cle game but then they probably talked him into playing. Problem for us as fans is we don't know what we have in him yet. Physically or mentally. I think that just gets people pissed off because they are frustrated.