rsavaj wrote:Theoretically speaking, would you guys do #5 for 14+16?
Ignoring value, we really don't have the roster space to do any X for X+1 trades, so that probably kills it right there.
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rsavaj wrote:Theoretically speaking, would you guys do #5 for 14+16?
DaRealHibachi wrote:WizarDynasty wrote:One legged vertical is highly related to finishing at the rim while dribbling....its what makes kobe lebron chris paul ... Without having explosive one leg vertical...you can't be acrobactic and finsih at the rim when beating someone off the dribble. Rubio from footage I have seen has a very poor one legged vertical. Don't know yet about lawson. Blatche and mcgee don't have exceptional one leg vertical. Only two player on this team that have them are arenas and nick young..and we have seen nick beat someone off the dribble and hit reverse dunks....they measure this ability in predraft for the last 9 years so your in luck. :aving long arms helps in this department with big hands. Don't know how big lawson or rubios hands are but rajon rondo has gigantic hands that allow u to palm the ball which isn't measured in the combines. So the lil guy commenting on lateral quickness and wingspan...get with the program...these are all crucial categories when comparing player potential...each measurement translates to performance on bball court longterm and if u are a true realgm and not a novice poster u would be highly interested in how players compare on measurements since its your job to build a dynasty and outwit the eastern conference playoff gms..especially cleveland and orlando.
For every "stat" you name, there's players who were much above average with the limit physical traits you use... I'll say it again, if course these stats can help, but they shouldn't be a basis for an argument...
Kwame Brown had excellent measurements, look what happened to him... McGee can still be a beast, but dude can't defend or hold his position, Nick Young is a perfect 2 physically, but lacks bball IQ... Blatche has the perfect package, but lacks work ethic... Arenas has the physical traits to play D, but he doesn't... According to your logic, Haywood is slow or whatever you said he was, but he gets the job done...Butler is undersized, short wingspan, slow latteral and whatever you say he is, but is an average defender...
So, Mr selfproclaimed True RealGM (lol), you need to get with a new program... Yours isn't working...
miller31time wrote:You're saying Kwame Brown wasn't the consensus #1 pick in the draft at that time? Because that just isn't true.
Did it turn out to be a good pick? No, of course not, but let's not act like most GMs wouldn't have done the same thing.
WizarDynasty wrote: Don't ever use kwame...signs were there jordan was dumb. If u have a bigman that can't palm the ball you don't draft. Butler is a 6"5 w/o shoes front court player that's not athletic. Arenas always had poor lateral agility timing which is why he fell in the draft. Nick young is in his second year and is better defender than butler and nick also had EJ as his coach...haywood can not be relied on to score in the post when u need a bucket. You my friend ...have mediocre standards which is not the trait for a team that wants to win a championship. You gotta ways to go before u step into the wiz realgm ring...I suggest u study championship teams and their measurables to get your weight up.
rsavaj wrote:Theoretically speaking, would you guys do #5 for 14+16?
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
ritt0093 wrote:Hi everyone,
I am not that familiar with the Wizards organizatoin, but i wanted to ask if you would be open to the following trade proposal.
MIN gives/WAS receives:
Craig Smith
Mike Miller
Randy Foye
18th pick
WAS gives/MIN receives:
J. McGee
M. James
E. Thomas
5th pick
Why for WAS: They get much better expiring contract players. I know they need a SG and both Foye and Miller fit that bill. They also can both play other positions bringing much needed flexibility. Smith is a rhino down low at the PF position. These three players would be strong contributors, especially under Saunder's jump shot first offense. All three players are expiring contracts so WAS would keep flexibility for 2010.
Why for MIN: I don't believe that Smith, Miller or Foye will be part of the long term plan in Minny. We have too many PFs (Love and Jefferson), and a glut at the wings of mediocre talent (Miller, Gomes, Foye, Brewer, Cardinal, not to mention that people want to add draft picks here). This deal would give MN a chance at getting a big body to go well with Jefferson and Love, and get a high draft pick to help make over the back court.
Ji wrote:Just got a twitter from bullets forever…he says the rumor about Mcgee is sooo false and the wiz think he can be a multiple all star. They also hate James Harden who they saw lacks athleticism, ball handling and explosiveness. If we don’t trade the pick..hello Hill or Curry or Evans!
Harden is a basketball player period. This is disappointing
Ruzious wrote:WizarDynasty wrote: Don't ever use kwame...signs were there jordan was dumb. If u have a bigman that can't palm the ball you don't draft. Butler is a 6"5 w/o shoes front court player that's not athletic. Arenas always had poor lateral agility timing which is why he fell in the draft. Nick young is in his second year and is better defender than butler and nick also had EJ as his coach...haywood can not be relied on to score in the post when u need a bucket. You my friend ...have mediocre standards which is not the trait for a team that wants to win a championship. You gotta ways to go before u step into the wiz realgm ring...I suggest u study championship teams and their measurables to get your weight up.
It's become a joke as to how many things you point to as facts that are just wrong. It's probably 50 times that you've intentionally posted Butler's size wrong. Arenas was drafted low because he had a bad back in college, and he was an under-sized shooting guard. Jason Gardener was Arizona's point guard. That trash talking might be cute, but when you have negative credibility, it's laughable.
What I've identified as the main area of contention between WizD and most posters is that WizD, you like to take the these biometrics to the grave. At some point you have to throw your hands up in the air and say wingspan be damned, this boy can play. This is most often most riotous in discussions of Caron Butler. You keep posting physical limitations of butler such as height, reach, etc. and others retaliate with game-resulting stats such as PERs, +/-'s and splits. Nobody can argue that Butler is undersized and doesn't have an albatross's span, but you can't really argue that Butler is inept as a player and not a top 10 sf.
WizarDynasty wrote:What I've identified as the main area of contention between WizD and most posters is that WizD, you like to take the these biometrics to the grave. At some point you have to throw your hands up in the air and say wingspan be damned, this boy can play. This is most often most riotous in discussions of Caron Butler. You keep posting physical limitations of butler such as height, reach, etc. and others retaliate with game-resulting stats such as PERs, +/-'s and splits. Nobody can argue that Butler is undersized and doesn't have an albatross's span, but you can't really argue that Butler is inept as a player and not a top 10 sf.
Lebron James, Paul Pierce, Hedo Turkoglu, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, Danny Granger, Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter, Stephen Jackson, Ron Artest, Carmelo Anthony, Josh Howard, Rashard Lewis, Joe Johnson. All players who are better overall players than 6'5 w/o shoes and unathletic caron butler. --I didn't even put shawn marion, Wilson Chandler, Shane Battier, Tayshaun Prince...all players who are better defenders than Butler.
Players on your list definitely not better than Butler atm;
Marvin Williams
Josh Smith
Loul Deng
Richard Jefferson
Stephen Jackson
Josh Howard
Get over yourself...