Evanz (@thecity2) 2019 Big Board

[EvanZ]

Last update before the tourney:

Tier

1. Zion
   
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   Nobody
   
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2. Culver
3. Jontay
   
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4. Garland
5. RJ
6. Hayes
   
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7. Coby
8. Ja
9. Bol
   
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10. Clarke
11. NAW
12. PJ
13. Grant Williams
14. Reddish
15. Tillie
    
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16. Tre
17. Romeo
18. THT
19. Hunter
20. Bruno
21. Nassir
22. Jerome
23. Herro
24. Claxton
25. Bitadze
26. Kabengele
27. Iggy
28. Thybulle
29. Rui
30. Okeke
31. Cam Johnson
32. McDaniels
    
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33. Ponds
34. Agbaji
35. Haliburton
36. KPJ
37. Keldon
38. Bassey
39. Gafford
40. Sirvydis
41. Dosunmu
42. Tillman
43. KZ
44. Lawson
45. Picket
46. Windler
    
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47. Nwora
48. Jalen Smith
49. Queta
50. Bone
51. Poole
52. Paschall
53. Roby
54. Hoard
55. Konate
56. Xavier Johnson
57. Reid
58. Dort
59. Childs
60. Smailagic
61. Bane
    
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62. Jack White
63. Admiral
64. Cassius
65. Tremont
66. Justin Robinson
67. Ntambwe
68. Happ
69. Ossuniyi
70. Dean Wade
71. Diallo

[GimmeDat]

Still willing to take Tillie that high given his interrupted season?

Also one guy I've been out a bit on lately is Tre - especially when I saw he's shooting 24.7% from 3 on the season. Still feel comfortable with him at 16?

[EvanZ]

Still willing to take Tillie that high given his interrupted season?

Also one guy I've been out a bit on lately is Tre - especially when I saw he's shooting 24.7% from 3 on the season. Still feel comfortable with him at 16?

I've moved Tillie down from where I had him. He's still talented. Tre is an amazing point guard that can't shoot. At 16, there's virtually no risk you're missing out on a star behind him and he's basically a lotto ticket if he can ever figure out how to shoot.

[EvanZ]

Updates after first weekend of tourney (and Jontay news):

Tier

1. Zion
   
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   Nobody
   
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2. Culver
   
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3. Hayes
4. Garland
5. Coby
6. Ja
   
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7. Bol
8. Jontay
9. Grant Williams
10. PJ
11. Okeke
12. RJ
13. NAW
    
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14. Clarke
15. Reddish
16. Tillie
17. Thybulle
18. Tre
19. Romeo
20. THT
21. Hunter
22. Bruno
23. Herro
24. Claxton
25. Bitadze
    
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26. Iggy
27. Cam Johnson
28. Jerome
29. Rui
30. Kabengele
31. Bassey
32. Gafford
33. McDaniels
34. Nassir
35. Haliburton
36. KPJ
37. Keldon
38. Jalen Smith
39. Windler
40. Picket
41. Hagans
    
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42. Ponds
43. Agbaji
44. Sirvydis
45. Dosunmu
46. Tillman
47. KZ
48. Lawson
49. Smailagic
50. Xavier Johnson
51. Tremont
52. Nwora
53. Queta
54. Poole
55. Paschall
56. Roby
57. Reid
58. Dort
59. Bane
60. Jack White
61. Admiral
62. Cassius
63. Justin Robinson
64. JWF
65. Blackshear
66. Bone
67. Hoard
68. Childs
69. Ntambwe
70. Happ
71. Ossuniyi
72. Dean Wade
73. Harris
74. Konate
75. Diallo

[clyde21]

i had Jontay top 5 but now I don't really know what to do with him with a 2nd ACL in less than a year.

what's your reasoning for leaving him in the top 10? are you confident it won't be much of an issue?

[EvanZ]

i had Jontay top 5 but now I don't really know what to do with him with a 2nd ACL in less than a year.

what's your reasoning for leaving him in the top 10? are you confident it won't be much of an issue?

It is definitely an issue, he's just so talented, it might be worth the risk there. I wouldn't ever draft Jontay at 10 though. I would trade down and pick him up late first round/early 2nd if possible.

[bwgood77]

i had Jontay top 5 but now I don't really know what to do with him with a 2nd ACL in less than a year.

what's your reasoning for leaving him in the top 10? are you confident it won't be much of an issue?

It is definitely an issue, he's just so talented, it might be worth the risk there. I wouldn't ever draft Jontay at 10 though. I would trade down and pick him up late first round/early 2nd if possible.

It's a big risk. The family just really seems to have problems with those injuries.

Knee problems have been an issue for the Porter siblings in recent years. Bri Porter, Jontay and Michael's sister, retired from basketball before last season at Missouri after suffering her fifth ACL tear. Cierra, another sister who played at Missouri, medically retired in June -- with one year of eligibility left -- because of ongoing knee problems.

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/missouris-jontay-porter-miss-season-tearing-acl-mcl/story?id=58653948

[EvanZ]

Yep, no question.

[King Ken]

I removed him completely off my board. I'll probably add him in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance.

[Cammo101]

I removed him completely off my board. I'll probably add him in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance.

I removed him from mine as well. At this point he has to return to school and try to prove he's still healthy.

[King Ken]

I removed him completely off my board. I'll probably add him in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance.

I removed him from mine as well. At this point he has to return to school and try to prove he's still healthy.

Exactly, do we even know if he is the same. Harry Giles and Walker from KSU had two ACLs and while Giles has recovered. Walker was never the same. On top of that, you got the genetics of his family and those who have height and it's not pretty. Everyone has had multiple high level injuries. He will be at the very end when added. He clearly won't be in my top 60 even 70. But someone will take that chance. He is too good to pass up for some team drafting around 50-60 range

[EvanZ]

I removed him completely off my board. I'll probably add him in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance.

I removed him from mine as well. At this point he has to return to school and try to prove he's still healthy.

It's a really weak draft, someone will take him early in the second round at latest.

[King Ken]

I removed him completely off my board. I'll probably add him in the 2nd round. Someone will take a chance.

I removed him from mine as well. At this point he has to return to school and try to prove he's still healthy.

It's a really weak draft, someone will take him early in the second round at latest.

We disagree on this one. I think this is an extremely strong draft. A lot of 3/D guys. A lot of guys who have trailored their games to the modern NBA. They might not have much of a ceiling but this isn't the old drafts. The upperclassmen in this draft, don't suck on average.

[Stillwater]

Jontay will only get drafted on a 2nd round flier probably 40-50 range on a cheap negotiated contract with stipulations of non guaranteed $ in the event he does not recover and fails to offer value on the court.At least for him his brother got paid, but as of now will probably be traded for a couple ice cream cones and a top 55 protected to another team that ends up giving him a buyout.

[EvanZ]

Post Elite 8

Tier

1. Zion
   
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   Nobody
   
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2. Culver
   
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3. Garland
4. Coby
5. Ja
6. RJ
   
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7. Bol
8. Grant Williams
9. PJ
10. Jontay
11. Okeke
12. Clarke
13. Hayes
14. Tillie
    
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15. Reddish
16. NAW
17. Thybulle
18. Romeo
19. Hunter
20. Bitadze
21. Bruno
22. Herro
23. Claxton
    
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24. THT
25. Cam Johnson
26. Jerome
27. Rui
28. Kabengele
29. Bassey
30. Gafford
31. McDaniels
32. Nassir
33. Haliburton
34. KPJ
35. Keldon
36. Windler
37. Picket
38. Hagans
    
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39. Ponds
40. Cassius
41. Agbaji
42. Sirvydis
43. Dosunmu
44. KZ
45. Lawson
46. Smailagic
47. Xavier Johnson
48. Tremont
49. Nwora
50. Queta
51. Poole
52. Paschall
53. Roby
54. Reid
55. Dort
56. Bane
57. Jack White
58. Admiral
59. Justin Robinson
60. JWF
61. Blackshear
62. Harper
63. Bone
64. Hoard
65. Childs
66. Ntambwe
67. Happ
68. Ossuniyi
69. Dean Wade
70. Harris
71. Konate
72. Diallo

[clyde21]

waaay too low on THT, Kab, KPJ.

[EvanZ]

waaay too low on THT, Kab, KPJ.

Pretty sure I'm not too low on Kab or KPJ. I like THT but it's hard to buy his shooting.

[Funcrusher]

waaay too low on THT, Kab, KPJ.

Pretty sure I'm not too low on Kab or KPJ. I like THT but it's hard to buy his shooting.

i just think it's weird you're that low on THT but then have a guy like Reddish 15. Or Tre at 18. Or Romeo at 19. And KPJ at 37 is ok i guess if you're really putting weight on character issues/intangibles but other than that i don't really get having him that low. Kabengele at 31 i can see but im a little higher on him than you are.

[EvanZ]

waaay too low on THT, Kab, KPJ.

Pretty sure I'm not too low on Kab or KPJ. I like THT but it's hard to buy his shooting.

i just think it's weird you're that low on THT but then have a guy like Reddish 15. Or Tre at 18. Or Romeo at 19. And KPJ at 37 is ok i guess if you're really putting weight on character issues/intangibles but other than that i don't really get having him that low. Kabengele at 31 i can see but im a little higher on him than you are.

What does THT have to do with Reddish, Tre, Romeo or KPJ? They're all different players.

[Funcrusher]

Pretty sure I'm not too low on Kab or KPJ. I like THT but it's hard to buy his shooting.

i just think it's weird you're that low on THT but then have a guy like Reddish 15. Or Tre at 18. Or Romeo at 19. And KPJ at 37 is ok i guess if you're really putting weight on character issues/intangibles but other than that i don't really get having him that low. Kabengele at 31 i can see but im a little higher on him than you are.

What does THT have to do with Reddish, Tre, Romeo or KPJ? They're all different players.

All of them outside of Reddish have broken jumpers, and Reddish is pretty much terrible at everything else offensively. It's not impossible to draw similarities between different players, not rocket science. And at no point in my post did i ever compare THT to KPJ.