OT: If soccer was the #1 sport in USA

CS707 · Post #21 » by **CS707** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:38 pm

Youth labor laws would kill the internal development and the excessive travel required would be a deterrent in attracting prime international players to our league.

CallMeKahn · Post #22 » by **CallMeKahn** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Horse****.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #23 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Ah, so the key is just getting those "good soccer" genes.
Makes sense :crazy:

JunkYardDog6ix · Post #24 » by **JunkYardDog6ix** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:40 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

wtf lol this is so wrong

Genetics play a part in the sport but not the way you describe it. Especially saying Brits and French will never be good (ignoring history) but countries like Germany and Italy are good in your books ? :banghead:

Where do you draw the line for northern countries in europe ? Hilarious .

jonjames · Post #25 » by **jonjames** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:41 pm

America has the best athletes out of every country imo so if they prioritized it like they do with football basketball etc they would be the best. At worst top 3.

Oscar9992 · Post #26 » by **Oscar9992** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:42 pm

I am sure USA, Canada or Russia will never produce players caliebers of today's Ronaldo & Messi. Not even players close to their level.

UcanUwill · Post #27 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:43 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Not buying it. Indians maybe, but what is wrong with Russians or Americans?

Considering all the youth programs and leagues in USA, its kinda strange seeing no phenoms appear at all in the States. But I guess its not all that bad, compared to my country Lithuania, we have zero organization in a matter, no elementary school leagues or anything like that, no one plays organized Soccer at all here it seems. We have no talent at all, tolerable keepers and CB here and there just because they are tall and strong, but no skill at sight.

Compared to Lithuania, America is so much ahead of the game at organizing sport leagues from elementary level, Its kinda amazing that we can play Basketball at a level we do.

JunkYardDog6ix · Post #28 » by **JunkYardDog6ix** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:48 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:I am sure USA, Canada or Russia will never produce players caliebers of today's Ronaldo & Messi. Not even players close to their level.

Lol okay buddy , this is wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Shevchenko

Else_where · Post #29 » by **Else_where** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Well, where was Spain's genetics considering up until 2010 they haven't done anything in WC and Euro's?

Oscar9992 · Post #30 » by **Oscar9992** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Not buying it. Indians maybe, but what is wrong with Russians or Americans?

Considering all the youth programs and leagues in USA, its kinda strange seeing no phenoms appear at all in the States. But I guess its not all that bad, compared to my country Lithuania, we have zero organization in a matter, no elementary school leagues or anything like that, no one plays organized Soccer at all here it seems. We have no talent at all, tolerable keepers and CB here and there just because they are tall and strong, but no skill at sight.

Compared to Lithuania, America is so much ahead of the game at organizing sport leagues from elementary level, Its kinda amazing that we can play Basketball at a level we do.

I doubt we will ever see World Class player coming high school or college... So far NONE!

All the good Elite players come from Academies of Professional Clubs such Barcelona, Ajax, Real Madrid, Manchester United etc.

If you want to be good soccer player you should join elite academies at very young age... Messi for example joined Barcelona at age of 13 still plays there.

Xherdan 23 · Post #31 » by **Xherdan 23** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:53 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Not buying it. Indians maybe, but what is wrong with Russians or Americans?

Considering all the youth programs and leagues in USA, its kinda strange seeing no phenoms appear at all in the States. But I guess its not all that bad, compared to my country Lithuania, we have zero organization in a matter, no elementary school leagues or anything like that, no one plays organized Soccer at all here it seems. We have no talent at all, tolerable keepers and CB here and there just because they are tall and strong, but no skill at sight.

Compared to Lithuania, America is so much ahead of the game at organizing sport leagues from elementary level, Its kinda amazing that we can play Basketball at a level we do.

Chrisitan Pulisic?

Danny1616 · Post #32 » by **Danny1616** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:54 pm

Most likely the best...the top American athletes play football, basketball or baseball.

Oscar9992 · Post #33 » by **Oscar9992** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:56 pm

Xherdan 23 wrote:Chrisitan Pulisic?

Pulisic joined Borussia Dortmund at age of 16... And rightfully did so. He would be ruined staying in US & waiting to get drafted to MLS clubs.

peZt · Post #34 » by **peZt** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:56 pm

Top 5, same level as Brazil, Spain, France, Germany

Danny1616 · Post #35 » by **Danny1616** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:56 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

What?

Germany is a pretty 'northern' country. Britain has always been pretty good in soccer.

I think it's more the fact that in poorer countries such as Spain, Argentina, Italy and Brazil soccer is the easiest sport to play. You don't need to buy a basketball net, have a baseball field, purchase equipment like football and hockey.

All you need is a ball.

That is why those countries produce excellent soccer and track athletes...because they are literally the only sports the population grow up competing in.

peZt · Post #36 » by **peZt** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:58 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Lmao get the **** outta here

Xherdan 23 · Post #37 » by **Xherdan 23** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:00 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:
Xherdan 23 wrote:Chrisitan Pulisic?

Pulisic joined Borussia Dortmund at age of 16... And rightfully did so. He would be ruined staying in US & waiting to get drafted to MLS clubs.

Age 16 is not when clubs start to develop players, he was already a top prospect developed in America and he would've been great wherever he went.
But I'm not sure discussing this with a person that thinks "USA players don't have the genetics" for football is a smart thing to do :crazy:

Illmatic12 · Post #38 » by **Illmatic12** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:00 pm

Xherdan 23 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Oscar9992 wrote:Genetics are big part of being good in Soccer... Northern Countries will never be good enough in Soccer.

Brazilians, Argentinians, Spaniards, Germans etc. are always be a top Soccer countries, as they have 'genetics' to play it very well.

Chinese, Indians, Scandinavians, Northern Americans, Russians, most of Brits & White French etc. will never play soccer very well with few exceptions.

Not buying it. Indians maybe, but what is wrong with Russians or Americans?

Considering all the youth programs and leagues in USA, its kinda strange seeing no phenoms appear at all in the States. But I guess its not all that bad, compared to my country Lithuania, we have zero organization in a matter, no elementary school leagues or anything like that, no one plays organized Soccer at all here it seems. We have no talent at all, tolerable keepers and CB here and there just because they are tall and strong, but no skill at sight.

Compared to Lithuania, America is so much ahead of the game at organizing sport leagues from elementary level, Its kinda amazing that we can play Basketball at a level we do.

Chrisitan Pulisic?

Pulisic trained in Germany from a young age.

Which is simple proof that the US does actually have a large potential pool of talented players, what’s lacking is the infrastructure and coaching for them to develop. Other countries are waaay ahead of America in that regard.

Oscar9992 · Post #39 » by **Oscar9992** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:03 pm

Xherdan 23 wrote:
Oscar9992 wrote:
Xherdan 23 wrote:Chrisitan Pulisic?

Pulisic joined Borussia Dortmund at age of 16... And rightfully did so. He would be ruined staying in US & waiting to get drafted to MLS clubs.

Age 16 is not when clubs start to develop players, he was already a top prospect developed in America and he would've been great wherever he went.
But I'm not sure discussing this with a person that thinks "USA players don't have the genetics" for football is a smart thing to do

If he continue to play in highschool, college or whatever in USA, he wouldn't be player he is today. He did right thing joining Borussia at 16. North American system doesn't work in soccer at all.

Also, Chinese & Indians will never produce any elite player no matter how hard they try & how much population they have. They don't have the 'right genetics'.

dosun · Post #40 » by **dosun** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:05 pm

JunkYardDog6ix wrote:
Oscar9992 wrote:I am sure USA, Canada or Russia will never produce players caliebers of today's Ronaldo & Messi. Not even players close to their level.

Lol okay buddy , this is wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Shevchenko

Shevchenko is Ukrainian (Russia and Ukraine are not the same country) and say he was at Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi level is a huge reach, he was good but not that good.