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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#41 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:01 pm

ellobo wrote:Maybe Reese can expand her offensive range and individual scoring game, but I don't necessarily expect her to ever be a go-to star scorer. However, I do think she has a high floor as high-motor athletic energy big who can rebound, defend, and score opportunistically. My impression is that offensive rebounding is more important in the women's game than in the men's game, where a lot of teams basically punt on pursuing offensive rebounds in favor of transition defense. In the women's game, at both NCAA and WNBA levels, "chuck it up and be elite at getting another possession if you miss" is a viable strategy for a winning team, and I think Reese can be an elite "possession getter." We've also seen in the NBA with Mitchell Robinson, how an elite offensive rebounder not only helps a team's offense, but also it's transition defense because teams have to keep rebounders in instead of getting out and running.

But I also think that maximizing her value at the next level will mean being able to adapt to a role and embrace her strengths, which may take a mental and emotional adjustment for her.


Yeah i don't think any team scouting her isn't bringing her in to be your 1A alpha dog scorer. But as a defender, rebounder and athletic energy forward? She can be elite in that area. She's gonna get those opportunity buckets in the paint but her real money maker will be keeping opposing forwards honest defensively by being able to hit those open top of the key threes. I look forward to seeing her grow.

Ideally, you want her paired with a great guard, which is why I was kinda sad that Paige didn't come out. If those two went off to the board to LA, that would have been so much fun.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#42 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:03 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:I don't think it's wild to be high on Angel Reese. I also don't think it's out of the question for her to go in the top 5. I agree with ellobo's evaluation of her game, I'm maybe just a shade more skeptical her physical game is certain to translate. I think there's a good chance it does though. She just plays with so much force.

TheSuzerain wrote:I would understand this if there was a 3rd player with significant talent after Clark and I guess Brink.

But doesn't seem to me there is. And honestly WNBA drafts are usually super thin. Top 10 players getting cut pretty quick is common.


Lots of people are high on Kamilla Cardoso. She's 6'7" and answered a ton of questions scouts had about her defensive mobility. She has physically dominated Reese a few times over the past couple years. Aaliyah Edwards and Rickea Jackson are the other names I see the most consistently above Reese. Bueckers and Juju aren't hopping in this draft.


Me. I'm high on Cardoso. :lol: i expect her to hit the ground running in the W.

She is an absolute UNIT.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#43 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:07 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:I don't think it's wild to be high on Angel Reese. I also don't think it's out of the question for her to go in the top 5. I agree with ellobo's evaluation of her game, I'm maybe just a shade more skeptical her physical game is certain to translate. I think there's a good chance it does though. She just plays with so much force.

TheSuzerain wrote:I would understand this if there was a 3rd player with significant talent after Clark and I guess Brink.

But doesn't seem to me there is. And honestly WNBA drafts are usually super thin. Top 10 players getting cut pretty quick is common.


Lots of people are high on Kamilla Cardoso. She's 6'7" and answered a ton of questions scouts had about her defensive mobility. She has physically dominated Reese a few times over the past couple years. Aaliyah Edwards and Rickea Jackson are the other names I see the most consistently above Reese. Bueckers and Juju aren't hopping in this draft.


Me. I'm high on Cardoso. :lol: i expect her to hit the ground running in the W.

She is an absolute UNIT.


At the beginning of the season I kinda thought she was a bit of a stiff. She's put in serious work on her footwork and defensive stance and now she looks occasionally dominant defending in space.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#44 » by DOT » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:26 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Saturday, May 18th Caitlin Clark and Aliyah Boston travel to New York to take on Sabrina, Stewie and Jonquel

Barclay's will be a mad house. Oh my god


Better get those tickets now! Times like these I'm super jealous of Americans being on the other side of the world.


I know, tickets are going fast and resellers are scalping them for $800 and up.

For comparison, i spent $300 total on Liberty vs Aces tickets last year. The same seating area and level now? 210 per ticket and up :cry:

Bruh it was like $420 for season tickets for the Sun a month or so ago, there's still some available at $840 (only like 7 total left between that and over $1,000 which is good cause it means they're selling out of season tickets)

Y'all NYers get shafted with that

Only reason I didn't buy them is cause my dad's a gambling addict so the casino gives him a ton of free stuff, meaning I can just get free tickets to basically any game I want. Opening night is vs Clark and Boston, no way am I missing that.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#45 » by LewisnotMiller » Sun Apr 7, 2024 7:57 am

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cupcakesnake wrote:I don't think it's wild to be high on Angel Reese. I also don't think it's out of the question for her to go in the top 5. I agree with ellobo's evaluation of her game, I'm maybe just a shade more skeptical her physical game is certain to translate. I think there's a good chance it does though. She just plays with so much force.

TheSuzerain wrote:I would understand this if there was a 3rd player with significant talent after Clark and I guess Brink.

But doesn't seem to me there is. And honestly WNBA drafts are usually super thin. Top 10 players getting cut pretty quick is common.


Lots of people are high on Kamilla Cardoso. She's 6'7" and answered a ton of questions scouts had about her defensive mobility. She has physically dominated Reese a few times over the past couple years. Aaliyah Edwards and Rickea Jackson are the other names I see the most consistently above Reese. Bueckers and Juju aren't hopping in this draft.


Me. I'm high on Cardoso. :lol: i expect her to hit the ground running in the W.

She is an absolute UNIT.


I agree. She's going to be impactful off the bat. I haven't seen enough of Rickea Jackson fully healthy to judge the merits there, but I'd definitely have Cordoso over someone like Edwards or Reece (both of whom I think are useful players in their own rights).
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Post#46 » by DOT » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:03 pm

I'm pretty excited to see who the Sun draft and then go back and watch highlights of whoever it is

I think the team has a pretty solid rotation down, but could use some shooting and/or star power at guard. Outside of Bonner, I think the guards are just kinda okay, and Bonner's turning 37 this year, so we need to get her some help, plus more shooting would play real well off of AT

Just cause I'm biased, I would love for them to take Nika Muhl, but I don't know enough to say she's worth the 10th pick. Tankathon has her going to the Dream at 12 and is 12th on their big board, so maybe. They have the Sun taking Alissa Pili which would be interesting because she's a post scorer who's also a great 3pt shooter, so she could be an excellent complement to AT, being able to come off the bench and replicate her playstyle while also being able to play next to her if the Sun go small.
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Post#47 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:05 pm

DOT wrote:I'm pretty excited to see who the Sun draft and then go back and watch highlights of whoever it is

I think the team has a pretty solid rotation down, but could use some shooting and/or star power at guard. Outside of Bonner, I think the guards are just kinda okay, and Bonner's turning 37 this year, so we need to get her some help, plus more shooting would play real well off of AT

Just cause I'm biased, I would love for them to take Nika Muhl, but I don't know enough to say she's worth the 10th pick. Tankathon has her going to the Dream at 12 and is 12th on their big board, so maybe. They have the Sun taking Alissa Pili which would be interesting because she's a post scorer who's also a great 3pt shooter, so she could be an excellent complement to AT, being able to come off the bench and replicate her playstyle while also being able to play next to her if the Sun go small.


I think Nika Muhl is definitely in that range.

It's hard to get excited about the 10th pick in a 12-team league that drafts every year. Last year, only 8 rookies played at least 14mpg. Only 4 rookies played over 20. Multiple first round picks didn't make it out of training camp. It feels like making it to an 100 game WNBA career is a major accomplishment for a draft pick.

It feels unlikely, (but still totally possible), that the Sun will draft someone at 10 that plays a big role for them.

I think Clark, Brink, Cardoso, and Jackson will definitely be in a W rotation this season. Rees and Aaliyah Edwards too if they land on the right team. After that I try not to get too attached. This league needs expansion so bad.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#48 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:13 pm

Anyone have strong feelings on Angel Rees vs. Aaliyah Edwards in this draft?

I like Rees' motor and think it gives her better potential as a big rim pressure scorer/rebounder, but I can also see her struggling initially against bigger frontcourt.

Edwards doesn't have that motor, but also forces things less, which might allow her to find an effective low usage role.

Rees seems a little more boom or bust, while I feel confident Edwards is always going to be solid.
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Post#49 » by ellobo » Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:18 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:Anyone have strong feelings on Angel Rees vs. Aaliyah Edwards in this draft?

I like Rees' motor and think it gives her better potential as a big rim pressure scorer/rebounder, but I can also see her struggling initially against bigger frontcourt.

Edwards doesn't have that motor, but also forces things less, which might allow her to find an effective low usage role.

Rees seems a little more boom or bust, while I feel confident Edwards is always going to be solid.


I'm a UCONN fan, but I'm not super high on Edwards. She's not a shooter, she's not a good post player against like-sized matchups or bigger, and I don't think she's a great rebounder (in terms of pursuing rebounds out of her area, and I don't think she has great hands). She's very strong facing up and driving to her right, and a more consistent finisher than Reese, but I don't have a strong sense of her identity as a player.

Reese is a great, high motor rebounder, especially on the offensive boards, which I think is especially valuable in the women's game, and she gets to the line at a high rate. She's also a good defender and a pretty good passer for a big. So with Reese, I feel like she has at least one elite strength that she brings to the game. My two concerns with Reese are:
1. Position. She's undersized as a center and it will be hard to play her with another big who doesn't space the floor (but I'd say the same thing about Edwards).
2. Personality. Is she willing to lean into her strengths and be an elite role player, or does she want to be a star?
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Post#50 » by LewisnotMiller » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:54 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:Anyone have strong feelings on Angel Rees vs. Aaliyah Edwards in this draft?

I like Rees' motor and think it gives her better potential as a big rim pressure scorer/rebounder, but I can also see her struggling initially against bigger frontcourt.

Edwards doesn't have that motor, but also forces things less, which might allow her to find an effective low usage role.

Rees seems a little more boom or bust, while I feel confident Edwards is always going to be solid.


I'd take Reese in a vacuum. My daughter would be surprised, since I'm not super high on her compared to the college hype, and she's (my daughter) not old enough yet to easily tell the difference between college fame and pro potential but...

I think both are likely useful bench players. Reese might be more with the right teammates and situation. I 'like' Edwards game more in a lot of ways but I don't see the upside.
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Re: WNBA Draft 2024 

Post#51 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:55 pm

ellobo wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:Anyone have strong feelings on Angel Rees vs. Aaliyah Edwards in this draft?

I like Rees' motor and think it gives her better potential as a big rim pressure scorer/rebounder, but I can also see her struggling initially against bigger frontcourt.

Edwards doesn't have that motor, but also forces things less, which might allow her to find an effective low usage role.

Rees seems a little more boom or bust, while I feel confident Edwards is always going to be solid.


I'm a UCONN fan, but I'm not super high on Edwards. She's not a shooter, she's not a good post player against like-sized matchups or bigger, and I don't think she's a great rebounder (in terms of pursuing rebounds out of her area, and I don't think she has great hands). She's very strong facing up and driving to her right, and a more consistent finisher than Reese, but I don't have a strong sense of her identity as a player.

Reese is a great, high motor rebounder, especially on the offensive boards, which I think is especially valuable in the women's game, and she gets to the line at a high rate. She's also a good defender and a pretty good passer for a big. So with Reese, I feel like she has at least one elite strength that she brings to the game. My two concerns with Reese are:
1. Position. She's undersized as a center and it will be hard to play her with another big who doesn't space the floor (but I'd say the same thing about Edwards).
2. Personality. Is she willing to lean into her strengths and be an elite role player, or does she want to be a star?


Reese to me is the better talent, but she will be a PF at the next level and her inability to space will probably cap her ceiling as a high end roleplayer.

And that's not a knock on her. Not everyone in this class will be superstars.
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Post#52 » by LewisnotMiller » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:56 pm

The Aussies who aren't in college are so young compared to the rest of the draft class. Hoping Issy Borlase gets a decent run at it over the next 2-3 years.
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Post#53 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:57 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:
DOT wrote:I'm pretty excited to see who the Sun draft and then go back and watch highlights of whoever it is

I think the team has a pretty solid rotation down, but could use some shooting and/or star power at guard. Outside of Bonner, I think the guards are just kinda okay, and Bonner's turning 37 this year, so we need to get her some help, plus more shooting would play real well off of AT

Just cause I'm biased, I would love for them to take Nika Muhl, but I don't know enough to say she's worth the 10th pick. Tankathon has her going to the Dream at 12 and is 12th on their big board, so maybe. They have the Sun taking Alissa Pili which would be interesting because she's a post scorer who's also a great 3pt shooter, so she could be an excellent complement to AT, being able to come off the bench and replicate her playstyle while also being able to play next to her if the Sun go small.


I think Nika Muhl is definitely in that range.

It's hard to get excited about the 10th pick in a 12-team league that drafts every year. Last year, only 8 rookies played at least 14mpg. Only 4 rookies played over 20. Multiple first round picks didn't make it out of training camp. It feels like making it to an 100 game WNBA career is a major accomplishment for a draft pick.

It feels unlikely, (but still totally possible), that the Sun will draft someone at 10 that plays a big role for them.

I think Clark, Brink, Cardoso, and Jackson will definitely be in a W rotation this season. Rees and Aaliyah Edwards too if they land on the right team. After that I try not to get too attached. This league needs expansion so bad.


Clark, Brink, Cardoso and Jackson are day 1 W starters imo.
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Post#54 » by LewisnotMiller » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:58 pm

Watched Puoch play live last week in our second tier comp, and she was clearly going half paced, I'd assume trying to avoid risk or injury. To be fair her team won easily regardless.

Anyone picking her better get ready with a long term development of plan, she's all length and athleticism at the moment.
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Post#55 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:00 pm

DOT wrote:I'm pretty excited to see who the Sun draft and then go back and watch highlights of whoever it is

I think the team has a pretty solid rotation down, but could use some shooting and/or star power at guard. Outside of Bonner, I think the guards are just kinda okay, and Bonner's turning 37 this year, so we need to get her some help, plus more shooting would play real well off of AT

Just cause I'm biased, I would love for them to take Nika Muhl, but I don't know enough to say she's worth the 10th pick. Tankathon has her going to the Dream at 12 and is 12th on their big board, so maybe. They have the Sun taking Alissa Pili which would be interesting because she's a post scorer who's also a great 3pt shooter, so she could be an excellent complement to AT, being able to come off the bench and replicate her playstyle while also being able to play next to her if the Sun go small.


Muhl is who I want the Liberty to take at 11, she fits right in as a 3 + D guard to play next to Sabrina.
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Post#56 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:15 pm

Angel said she looks at herself as a wing? Hmm I dunno....
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Post#57 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:32 pm

How is Cameron Brink not getting offers to be a model? She looks stunning, so does Angel. Everyone is really dressed to the nines tonight.

Side note, I love how you can see how close Nneka and Chiney are. Makes me so happy to see them together on TV
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Post#58 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:04 am

I'm gonna say it.

Brink and Jackson might be just as good a duo as Clark and Boston

This is really exciting
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Post#59 » by zike_42 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:14 am

MrDollarBills wrote:How is Cameron Brink not getting offers to be a model? She looks stunning, so does Angel. Everyone is really dressed to the nines tonight.

Side note, I love how you can see how close Nneka and Chiney are. Makes me so happy to see them together on TV


I'm pretty sure Brink has already had modelling jobs? LA is going to have a quick rebuild with Brink and Jackson and probably a high pick next year.
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Post#60 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:18 am

Angel to Chicago. Congratulations she will do well. :) Coach Spoon is gonna coach her hard
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