RealGM

JMAC3 wrote:

JustBuzzin wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:
We had the 28th best offense in the league, yes LaMelo out hurts but we also aren't loaded with offensive talent after trading Terry, Gordon and PJ. Right now, Grant Williams would likely be our 4th best scorer based on this, which is probably not a good bet if your thesis is we don't need scoring. You are also assuming Melo, Miles and Miller are healthy the majority of the year.

You are also assuming Miles is 100% back, which I lean heavily, but not guaranteed.

We do need defense, but I think it's a really big stretch to assume offense is fine with this current group.

My question who in this draft is a elite scorer?

Are you suggesting we take Knecht or Dillingham?

Not necessarily, I just think you are pushing a narrative that isn't true. There is also a good chance that both Miles and Melo scoring goes down based on Miller scoring going up so probably some cannibalization ala what we saw when Terry went to Miami. Having another guy that can be a 12 ppg scorer off the bench next year with upside to be more is probably not an immediate answer but it gives us some options that we probably need.

Also, you can be a good offensive player by adding spacing such as a Risacher that gives the rest of the offense easier scoring opportunities, Castle is probably the opposite and would make scoring harder when he is on the floor vs the standard NBA guard.

JustBuzzin wrote:

JMAC3 wrote:

JustBuzzin wrote:My question who in this draft is a elite scorer?

Are you suggesting we take Knecht or Dillingham?

Not necessarily, I just think you are pushing a narrative that isn't true. There is also a good chance that both Miles and Melo scoring goes down based on Miller scoring going up so probably some cannibalization ala what we saw when Terry went to Miami. Having another guy that can be a 12 ppg scorer off the bench next year with upside to be more is probably not an immediate answer but it gives us some options that we probably need.

Also, you can be a good offensive player by adding spacing such as a Risacher that gives the rest of the offense easier scoring opportunities, Castle is probably the opposite and would make scoring harder when he is on the floor vs the standard NBA guard.

I didn't know my opinion was a narrative. I learn something new everyday.

People can have their own opinion without pushing a narrative.

Snidely FC wrote:btw prospects are required to get combine measurements starting this year:

Beginning in 2024, all invited players will be required to attend and participate in the NBA Draft Combine or be ineligible to be drafted until the "first subsequent draft for which the player attends and fully participates."

Participation will include league medical examinations, sharing of medical history and biomechanical and functional movement testing, as well as strength and agility testing, shooting drills, performance testing and anthropometric measurements. Players will also be required to conduct team interviews, media circuits, player development sessions and other assessments, as determined by the NBA in consultation with the NBPA. Players will not be compelled to compete in five-on-five scrimmaging, which typically only a handful of first-round prospects elect to participate in.

SWedd523 wrote:

Snidely FC wrote:btw prospects are required to get combine measurements starting this year:

Beginning in 2024, all invited players will be required to attend and participate in the NBA Draft Combine or be ineligible to be drafted until the "first subsequent draft for which the player attends and fully participates."

Participation will include league medical examinations, sharing of medical history and biomechanical and functional movement testing, as well as strength and agility testing, shooting drills, performance testing and anthropometric measurements. Players will also be required to conduct team interviews, media circuits, player development sessions and other assessments, as determined by the NBA in consultation with the NBPA. Players will not be compelled to compete in five-on-five scrimmaging, which typically only a handful of first-round prospects elect to participate in.

I'm surprised the players association agreed to that but it's **** awesome news

SWedd523 wrote:

Snidely FC wrote:btw prospects are required to get combine measurements starting this year:

Beginning in 2024, all invited players will be required to attend and participate in the NBA Draft Combine or be ineligible to be drafted until the "first subsequent draft for which the player attends and fully participates."

Participation will include league medical examinations, sharing of medical history and biomechanical and functional movement testing, as well as strength and agility testing, shooting drills, performance testing and anthropometric measurements. Players will also be required to conduct team interviews, media circuits, player development sessions and other assessments, as determined by the NBA in consultation with the NBPA. Players will not be compelled to compete in five-on-five scrimmaging, which typically only a handful of first-round prospects elect to participate in.

I'm surprised the players association agreed to that but it's **** awesome news

amcoolio wrote:Clingan looking like a good option if we pick 3 or 4 or 5 after watching Hartenstein tonight. We need people who can play, and Mark Williams doesn't and Richards just isn't good.

Bassman wrote:

amcoolio wrote:Clingan looking like a good option if we pick 3 or 4 or 5 after watching Hartenstein tonight. We need people who can play, and Mark Williams doesn't and Richards just isn't good.

Agree that Clingan deserves consideration for our situation but not with the #1 pick. If we lucked into that I’d hope we could draft a long term starter, even in a weak draft. My top 5 as of now (but I change my mind almost daily, and the workouts haven’t even begun):

1. Sarr
2. Buzelis
3. Clingan
4. Holland
5. Risacher

JustBuzzin wrote:

Bassman wrote:

amcoolio wrote:Clingan looking like a good option if we pick 3 or 4 or 5 after watching Hartenstein tonight. We need people who can play, and Mark Williams doesn't and Richards just isn't good.

Agree that Clingan deserves consideration for our situation but not with the #1 pick. If we lucked into that I’d hope we could draft a long term starter, even in a weak draft. My top 5 as of now (but I change my mind almost daily, and the workouts haven’t even begun):

1. Sarr
2. Buzelis
3. Clingan
4. Holland
5. Risacher

Do you view Buzelis as a sf or pf?

bravor wrote:Not sure if he will maintain his name in this draft, but we have another promising prospect that just declared for 2024th draft. His name is Mohamed Diawara.
I like him quite a lot, even though he's not a scorer, but he has a pretty high potential as main defender/point forward. He only needs playing time to expand his game on offense (the shooting improving this year being a good thing). His team defense/individual defense are already legit, as his toughness and basket IQ.

I doubt he maintains his name though, he should be 1st round material, esp. in such a weak draft.

bravor wrote:Not sure if he will maintain his name in this draft, but we have another promising prospect that just declared for 2024th draft. His name is Mohamed Diawara.
I like him quite a lot, even though he's not a scorer, but he has a pretty high potential as main defender/point forward. He only needs playing time to expand his game on offense (the shooting improving this year being a good thing). His team defense/individual defense are already legit, as his toughness and basket IQ.

I doubt he maintains his name though, he should be 1st round material, esp. in such a weak draft.