2024 Draft Prospects

[GoBobs]

Tend to agree on Sarr…I might take Risacher at 2, but definitely would consider Clingan there or certainly at #3. We won’t really know what these teams get it of the personal workouts but those will be very important. Does Sarr really have the tools to become a strong starter/possible all star, or is he too big a reach? Can Clingan show the kind of mobility and reaction time at a pro level, along with some dependable shooting range? Is Risacher really good with NBA type athleticism or was his resume enhanced by lesser competition?

Clingan is the last guy that I would peg for upside on developing shooting range. He can't even hit free throws.

Both Clingan and Sarr wound need to add weight to play center. A bunch of these guys are 2 years away, but Sarr as a center is 2 years away from being 2 years away from being 2 years away.

Clingan is already pretty stout, at 7’2” and 280lbs, with good strength, so I think he can effectively play right away. I know his shooting is limited but he has good form so he can improve a bit on that. Sarr’s position in the league is PF and should only play spot minutes at center IMO.

I think Clingan was listed at 280 and then lost some weight, or at least that was the story I heard. I guess we can see what he measures at the combine to know for sure. He looks super skinny to me though and I see him get his lower half pushed out from under him often.

If he gains weight he might be more of an injury risk with his history of foot injury and his mobility might also be reduced.

Looking at his stats he put up 13/7.5/2.5 as a sophomore. Pretty comparable to Edey as a sophomore who averaged 14/7.7/2.0.

If he stayed in college until his senior year would he make the jump to 25/12/2.2 that Edey put up last year? Maybe, who knows, but just because most guys don't ever get to that level, more likely the answer is no.

Why not go for the guy who already has 2 more years of experience and proved that he got there? That guy also has no injury history to speak of (we don't need more bench wounded on this team). Edey already has the extra weight that Clingan needs to add to win some of the physical battles down low and has proven he can stay healthy playing a lot of minutes at that weight.

[GoBobs]

Then in the head to head in the national championship game Clingan put up

11pts on 5-8, 5 reb, 1 blk and had 4 pf, not a bad night but not the stat line of a star player.

Edey put up

37 pts on 15-25, 10 reb and 2 blk. That is the stat line you hope your star puts up.

So Clingan is a defensive specialist for the most part. He barely slowed down Edey, so it isn't like he is going to shut down NBA scoring. He is going to get blown by on the perimeter just like Edey. Even when we played PJ Washington at center he couldn't stay in front of Bam A in a one v one. No center can stay in front of these NBA guards.

[SWedd523]

"let's circle back to Edey"

[GoBobs]

"let's circle back to Edey"

Where is the and2 button!

[JustBuzzin]

Watching Cody Williams big brother Jalen Williams gives me pause...

What if he adds 20 pounds to his frame. Could he be like Jalen Williams down the line?

[Liver_Pooty]

Edey is also almost 22 years old and moves like a broken dinosaur.

[GoBobs]

Edey is also almost 22 years old and moves like a broken dinosaur.

Being 22 years old is a positive not a negative.

League is filled with centers who don't move well but are still successful. Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis, B Lopez, Gobert, most of them picked in the 2nd round but more successful than the experts proposed.

[Bassman]

Watching Cody Williams big brother Jalen Williams gives me pause...

What if he adds 20 pounds to his frame. Could he be like Jalen Williams down the line?

That’s the type of questions this entire draft is full of. Years from now some player or two is going to emerge as a surprising star, because they DID do the extra development for success. Predicting which one is nothing we as fans have the ability to do. GM’s can interview and get investigative background reports, character references, and still not be certain.

[JMAC3]

Edey is also almost 22 years old and moves like a broken dinosaur.

Being 22 years old is a positive not a negative.

League is filled with centers who don't move well but are still successful. Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis, B Lopez, Gobert, most of them picked in the 2nd round but more successful than the experts proposed.

Bro this is becoming Jeremy Lin level of stanning...
Can't wait for us to draft Edey in the 2nd round and you be in here after every game saying how we need to give the ball to Edey every play because he had 37 in the national title game and you don't understand how he isn't starting over Mark Williams lol.

"Edey played 4 mins last night and had 4 pts and 2 rebounds. If we gave him 36 mins he would be averaging 36 and 18 based on that and I think he could be even better because he has great stamina"

Zach Edey is 30th on Tankathon, 27th on Barlowe Big Board, Athletic 21st, 20th on No Ceilings, 17th on Ringer, 14th on Espn..

via Sam Vecenie.. "Where is Edey projected to go on draft night?
The most common response I get from evaluators on the NBA side regarding Edey is the Nos. 15 to 25 range."

[JustBuzzin]

Please stop with the Edey talk. He's not even going to be a lottery pick in a weak draft. That should tell you all you need to know.

If he's available in the 2nd Rd then sure I would entertain taking him with our 2nd Rd pick.

[GoBobs]

Please stop with the Edey talk. He's not even going to be a lottery pick in a weak draft. That should tell you all you need to know.

If he's available in the 2nd Rd then sure I would entertain taking him with our 2nd Rd pick.

I will talk about what ever I want. You don't like it, then go read something else.

[GoBobs]

Edey is also almost 22 years old and moves like a broken dinosaur.

Being 22 years old is a positive not a negative.

League is filled with centers who don't move well but are still successful. Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis, B Lopez, Gobert, most of them picked in the 2nd round but more successful than the experts proposed.

Bro this is becoming Jeremy Lin level of stanning...
Can't wait for us to draft Edey in the 2nd round and you be in here after every game saying how we need to give the ball to Edey every play because he had 37 in the national title game and you don't understand how he isn't starting over Mark Williams lol.

"Edey played 4 mins last night and had 4 pts and 2 rebounds. If we gave him 36 mins he would be averaging 36 and 18 based on that and I think he could be even better because he has great stamina"

Zach Edey is 30th on Tankathon, 27th on Barlowe Big Board, Athletic 21st, 20th on No Ceilings, 17th on Ringer, 14th on Espn..

via Sam Vecenie.. "Where is Edey projected to go on draft night?
The most common response I get from evaluators on the NBA side regarding Edey is the Nos. 15 to 25 range."

I wish we got him in the 2nd round. No way he makes it to round 2. More likely he gets taken by the Raptors or Knicks and beats our ass every year.

[JustBuzzin]

Please stop with the Edey talk. He's not even going to be a lottery pick in a weak draft. That should tell you all you need to know.

If he's available in the 2nd Rd then sure I would entertain taking him with our 2nd Rd pick.

I will talk about what ever I want. You don't like it, then go read something else.

Calm down big guy I was just joking.

[JMAC3]

Being 22 years old is a positive not a negative.

League is filled with centers who don't move well but are still successful. Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis, B Lopez, Gobert, most of them picked in the 2nd round but more successful than the experts proposed.

Bro this is becoming Jeremy Lin level of stanning...
Can't wait for us to draft Edey in the 2nd round and you be in here after every game saying how we need to give the ball to Edey every play because he had 37 in the national title game and you don't understand how he isn't starting over Mark Williams lol.

"Edey played 4 mins last night and had 4 pts and 2 rebounds. If we gave him 36 mins he would be averaging 36 and 18 based on that and I think he could be even better because he has great stamina"

Zach Edey is 30th on Tankathon, 27th on Barlowe Big Board, Athletic 21st, 20th on No Ceilings, 17th on Ringer, 14th on Espn..

via Sam Vecenie.. "Where is Edey projected to go on draft night?
The most common response I get from evaluators on the NBA side regarding Edey is the Nos. 15 to 25 range."

I wish we got him in the 2nd round. No way he makes it to round 2. More likely he gets taken by the Raptors or Knicks and beats our ass every year.

I promise he has a better chance of going in the 2nd round then going top 5.

[Rich4114]

The Edey thing is interesting, it seems like he's a little all over the place but I have never seen it suggested he'd be a lottery pick. And given that this is supposed to be a bad draft, that's even more concerning. Reminds me of the Harry Giles stuff.

[GoBobs]

The Edey thing is interesting, it seems like he's a little all over the place but I have never seen it suggested he'd be a lottery pick. And given that this is supposed to be a bad draft, that's even more concerning. Reminds me of the Harry Giles stuff.

Okay, but Jokic was a 2nd round pick. Gobert was taken end of the first round. It wouldn't be the first time everybody got it wrong for the most part.

Jay Bilas - "he is going to have a long career in the NBA as long as he doesn't get hurt. I see him as a top 15-20 pick."

JJ Reddick - "He has size, has a motor, clearly holds grudges. I am willing to bet on those guys."

Dan Hurley - "If Zach Edey is not a lottery pick and a tremendous NBA player something is wrong with the NBA"

Dean on Draft had him 20 last year in a draft that was a great draft. Probably going to be higher this year.

He has only one question mark, mobility on defense. Every thing else he does not just well, but at an elite level. Elite level scoring and rebounding. Elite level screen setting. Draws tons of fouls and hardly ever gets called for a foul. Hits his free throws. If that one question about his mobility is overstated, he is a star.

Then look at the combine testing from last year. According to the results he tested out a lot better than Gobert. Gobert himself has had questions about mobility and was played off the floor in the playoffs by a small ball team, but overall he is a good player.

And then we also have other recent guys that were drafted a lot later than they should have been due to this mobility on defense questions. Luka went 5 despite a lot of evidence that he put up great numbers. People said, he is not athletic, the nba is different, he won't be able to guard. Sengun went later than he should have due to questions about mobility on defense.

If this same question is overstated about Edey he is a star day 1. Not 2 years away like the rest of these guys, somebody that can come in and be a difference maker day 1.

[Rich4114]

The Edey thing is interesting, it seems like he's a little all over the place but I have never seen it suggested he'd be a lottery pick. And given that this is supposed to be a bad draft, that's even more concerning. Reminds me of the Harry Giles stuff.

Okay, but Jokic was a 2nd round pick. Gobert was taken end of the first round. It wouldn't be the first time everybody got it wrong for the most part.

Jay Bilas - "he is going to have a long career in the NBA as long as he doesn't get hurt. I see him as a top 15-20 pick."

JJ Reddick - "He has size, has a motor, clearly holds grudges. I am willing to bet on those guys."

Dan Hurley - "If Zach Edey is not a lottery pick and a tremendous NBA player something is wrong with the NBA"

Dean on Draft had him 20 last year in a draft that was a great draft. Probably going to be higher this year.

He has only one question mark, mobility on defense. Every thing else he does not just well, but at an elite level. Elite level scoring and rebounding. Elite level screen setting. Draws tons of fouls and hardly ever gets called for a foul. Hits his free throws. If that one question about his mobility is overstated, he is a star.

Then look at the combine testing from last year. According to the results he tested out a lot better than Gobert. Gobert himself has had questions about mobility and was played off the floor in the playoffs by a small ball team, but overall he is a good player.

And then we also have other recent guys that were drafted a lot later than they should have been due to this mobility on defense questions. Luka went 5 despite a lot of evidence that he put up great numbers. People said, he is not athletic, the nba is different, he won't be able to guard. Sengun went later than he should have due to questions about mobility on defense.

If this same question is overstated about Edey he is a star day 1. Not 2 years away like the rest of these guys, somebody that can come in and be a difference maker day 1.

I think it’s way harder to evaluate the international guys than the multi year NCAA guys. Sure, he can definitely end up being a star and everything we’ve hoped and dreamed of but based on the majority of experts, that seems less likely than about 20 other prospects. Not saying I’m against Edey or anything just pointing out the facts. Would be shocked if he went lottery. This is a good draft to take a swing or reach on someone though.

[SWedd523]

What do y'all think about that Zach Edey guy?

[Rich4114]

What do y'all think about that Zach Edey guy?

All I know is I’d take Sarr and Clingan over him lmao

[JMAC3]

The Edey thing is interesting, it seems like he's a little all over the place but I have never seen it suggested he'd be a lottery pick. And given that this is supposed to be a bad draft, that's even more concerning. Reminds me of the Harry Giles stuff.

Okay, but Jokic was a 2nd round pick. Gobert was taken end of the first round. It wouldn't be the first time everybody got it wrong for the most part.

Jay Bilas - "he is going to have a long career in the NBA as long as he doesn't get hurt. I see him as a top 15-20 pick."

JJ Reddick - "He has size, has a motor, clearly holds grudges. I am willing to bet on those guys."

Dan Hurley - "If Zach Edey is not a lottery pick and a tremendous NBA player something is wrong with the NBA"

Dean on Draft had him 20 last year in a draft that was a great draft. Probably going to be higher this year.

He has only one question mark, mobility on defense. Every thing else he does not just well, but at an elite level. Elite level scoring and rebounding. Elite level screen setting. Draws tons of fouls and hardly ever gets called for a foul. Hits his free throws. If that one question about his mobility is overstated, he is a star.

Then look at the combine testing from last year. According to the results he tested out a lot better than Gobert. Gobert himself has had questions about mobility and was played off the floor in the playoffs by a small ball team, but overall he is a good player.

And then we also have other recent guys that were drafted a lot later than they should have been due to this mobility on defense questions. Luka went 5 despite a lot of evidence that he put up great numbers. People said, he is not athletic, the nba is different, he won't be able to guard. Sengun went later than he should have due to questions about mobility on defense.

If this same question is overstated about Edey he is a star day 1. Not 2 years away like the rest of these guys, somebody that can come in and be a difference maker day 1.

I think it’s way harder to evaluate the international guys than the multi year NCAA guys. Sure, he can definitely end up being a star and everything we’ve hoped and dreamed of but based on the majority of experts, that seems less likely than about 20 other prospects. Not saying I’m against Edey or anything just pointing out the facts. Would be shocked if he went lottery. This is a good draft to take a swing or reach on someone though.

Yes Jokic was drafted at age 19, by the age of 20 he was a better player than current day Edey who is 22 on draft night. Gobert was 20. So younger, more time to improve and we had way less film on them to understand strengths.

Jokic would have been a top 5 pick in the following years draft after he was stashed for 1 year.

The examples are just nothing alike.