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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#101 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:17 am

The difference between G-league guys and 2nd round picks vs actual NBA veterans.

Even if Seth and Bertans aren't that good anymore, they still know how to play. Both of them are our best shooters by far.

Micic is still a former Euro MVP and obviously knows how to manage a game. No hero ball or selfishness or not knowing what to do.

Grant has been a key part of Boston's playoff teams. Even if he doesn't have PJ's talent, he's more steady and smarter.

Mann is the only one similar to the guys we normally have on the bench. But unlike our guys he's been around good veterans in a winning organization.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#102 » by KembaWalker » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:17 am

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It is striking how much better the overall level of play looked this game. Even guys like Bertans and Seth just look so much more intuitive and like they belong on the floor.

Exciting times.


Let’s see how they do with a few weeks of Hornet culture . Seth Curry will get a DUI on his way home and Bertans will show up to the next game with a diamond grill in his mouth
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#103 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:22 am

Yeah, that's the important part. How will they do after being exposed to our team for prolonged periods of time.

is Micic about to join the Serbian mob?

Is Grant Williams going to start punching his teammates?

Is Bertans going to start... um... not being a nice Latvian lad?

Is Seth Curry going to be beneficiary of nepotism?

Is Mann going to get drunk in his car and run a red light in front of the arena?
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#104 » by LofJ » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:30 am

We have badly needed real adults on this team for years. It should have happened a long time ago, but damn am I happy that it finally happened.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#105 » by NCHeels2008 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:30 am

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It is striking how much better the overall level of play looked this game. Even guys like Bertans and Seth just look so much more intuitive and like they belong on the floor.

Exciting times.


yea its clear Mitch did a **** job at the bottom half of the roster the Mavs and OKC castoffs are actual basketball professionals, a breath of fresh air
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#106 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:14 am

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JDR720 wrote:Odds we go on a run good enough to keep Mitch and Cliff their jobs?

Had the same thought tonight lol


Mitch is gone in my opinion. Clifford has a chance.

Edit: and I'll go on the record to say Cliff needs one last chance. I don't care if you're the mastermind of the universe you could not and would not win with the roster he had this season with injuries.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#107 » by fatlever » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:06 am

this game prove just how **** pathetic mitch's bench was. we grabbed 4 dudes buried on okc/dal bench, all 4 who immediately put all our scrubs out of the rotation
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#108 » by fatlever » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:13 am

rndom conspiracy theory
it's no secret crash was pissed after we traded him. he was not happy with franchise. seemed to want no part of coming back for something like this.
mj sells team, 6 months later we finally have crash appreciation night. coincidence?
i wonder if their was bad blood between crash/mj? otherwise, why did it take so long to honor him? dude is a **** legend.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#109 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:06 am

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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#110 » by Jstock12 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:21 am

No surprises from Micic. Knew he'd deliver whenever he finally got the chance in the NBA. This is after all Jokic's right hand man on the Serbian national team (that's on par with USA nowadays).
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#111 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:36 am

Bertans getting a fair chunk of Brandon Miller's fourth quarter minutes is so Clifford-like. Charlotte might end up being the perfect place for Davis to hang around in the league.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#112 » by Pokuokic » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:28 am

MasterIchiro wrote:If you like Mcic you will love Topic. Serbia is cranking out unselfish players. It's infectious just as hero ball was under Terry.

Hornets should have demanded Jovic over the 1st round draft pick in the Rozier trade he will explode once he gets away from Miami and there small ball.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#113 » by Diop » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:40 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:Bertans getting a fair chunk of Brandon Miller's fourth quarter minutes is so Clifford-like. Charlotte might end up being the perfect place for Davis to hang around in the league.

I thought you might pop up after your cousin got traded here!
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#114 » by Braggins » Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:47 pm

fatlever wrote:this game prove just how **** pathetic mitch's bench was. we grabbed 4 dudes buried on okc/dal bench, all 4 who immediately put all our scrubs out of the rotation

I'm legit kind of excited for Micic on this team. He seemed like a really solid solid backup PG whenever I saw him play for OKC but that team was just so stacked with good guards it seemed like there wasn't any opportunity for him.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#115 » by wilson115 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:30 pm

fatlever wrote:this game prove just how **** pathetic mitch's bench was. we grabbed 4 dudes buried on okc/dal bench, all 4 who immediately put all our scrubs out of the rotation

Speaking of conspiracy theories, would that mean new ownership just gave Clifford carte blanche to play whoever he wants to get to the playoffs at all costs? Is that even a reasonable/realistic/plausible expectation?
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#116 » by SWedd523 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:38 pm

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First Crash, now a Mase reference


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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#117 » by Braggins » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:45 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Odds we go on a run good enough to keep Mitch and Cliff their jobs?

Had the same thought tonight lol


Mitch is gone in my opinion. Clifford has a chance.

Edit: and I'll go on the record to say Cliff needs one last chance. I don't care if you're the mastermind of the universe you could not and would not win with the roster he had this season with injuries.

There are five active head coaches right now who have a worse career winning percentage than Clifford. One of them is Washington's interim guy who has been an NBA head coach for 9 games. One is Toronto's first year head coach. Jacque Vaughn is the only one of the five who has at least three full years of coaching experience.

This is Cliffords 10th year as a head coach. His career win% is 42.8%. Hes 5-16 in the playoffs and has 0 series wins. Two of his playoff appearances came off seasons where his team was barely .500 and another was off of a season where his team went 33-40. The last four seasons his record is 92-187
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#118 » by Braggins » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:48 pm

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fatlever wrote:this game prove just how **** pathetic mitch's bench was. we grabbed 4 dudes buried on okc/dal bench, all 4 who immediately put all our scrubs out of the rotation

Speaking of conspiracy theories, would that mean new ownership just gave Clifford carte blanche to play whoever he wants to get to the playoffs at all costs? Is that even a reasonable/realistic/plausible expectation?

They would have to win all 30 remaining games this season to go 41-41.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#119 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:49 pm

Yeah, he doesn't need another year. He's been proven to not be a good coach, his sample size is hundreds of games. Even without this season.

That said, it wouldn't shock me at all if he's back. The fact we still haven't canned Mitch and he's supposedly in Spain with Nnaji make me think we aren't in a rush to make any moves. Cliff isn't going until after Mitch does.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Grizz 2/10 7PM EST 

Post#120 » by Braggins » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:54 pm

JDR720 wrote:Yeah, he doesn't need another year. He's been proven to not be a good coach, his sample size is hundreds of games. Even without this season.

That said, it wouldn't shock me at all if he's back. The fact we still haven't canned Mitch and he's supposedly in Spain with Nnaji make me think we aren't in a rush to make any moves. Cliff isn't going until after Mitch does.

I almost expect it at this point. He has the lowest expectations of any NBA coach Ive ever seen. If he wins like 10-12 of the remaining 30 games and they don't look completely garbage for a few weeks down the stretch I will not be surprised at all if a narrative starts to form with some people that he actually did a good job this season.

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