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Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:17 pm
by GoBobs
JustBuzzin wrote:Diop wrote:his handle is pretty good, especially for a 7 footer. he often brought the ball up on offense.
Wait so people viewing Sarr as a SF now?
I need to watch his film again. I had no idea he had legit guard skills as a ball handler.
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To me Sarr stands out the most. Won't be surprised if he becomes the consensus number 1. He has really good fluidity and skills for somebody his size. Of course just because he has a really good handle for a 7'1'' guy doesn't mean you want him trying to break guys down with the dribble.
He plays like a wing though, as in away from the basket. That is why his rebounding is so low, he isn't around the basket a lot of the time.
Also for a guy listed at 7'1'' he doesn't really stand out as taller than everyone else. He is probably similar size to Kevin Durant or rookie Kevin Garnet. I am guessing like 6'10'' or 6'11'' without shoes.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:58 pm
by JMAC3
Sarr is very intriguing. 1. He is a really good athlete, and he is just going to make 2-3 plays a night that most guys can't so there is a ton of value in that whether it's a block, dunk, play in transition etc. he brings that. 2. He is a defensive floor raiser for this team, his ability to protect the rim and also switch onto smaller defenders is elite for his height. 3. Offensively he probably is Chet- lite. If he plays the 5 he will be able to space the floor and make some threes, but he isn't nearly as good as of shooter.
I wouldn't be mad at the pick at all. I think he becomes a solid backup 5 right away this year behind Mark which should allow him 20-25 mpg which is fine with a top 3 pick in a weaker draft.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:05 pm
by JustBuzzin
We will draft either Sarr or Castle if either are on the board. Im 100% convinced they are looking at defensive minded players in a rather weak draft. Clifford is still a major piece here. They will ask him what this team needs. We all know he's been preaching defense for most of his career.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:55 pm
by amcoolio
wilson115 wrote:His passing out on the perimeter's shown promise as well. Cody Zeller was really good at this.
See this is the difference between Wiseman, who went #2 overall, and Sarr. I couldn't understand the Wiseman love becuase he couldn't do anything like this with the ball in his hands and was also constantly lost on defense, and way less twitchy with his athleticism. With Sarr you can see the NBA skills to go along with an impressive size, length and mobility. Sarr is a way better prospect than Wiseman. I really think its only his shooting that will stop him from being an all-star level player. He's #1 on my board for sure
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:24 pm
by JMAC3
He averaged 11 ppg in the OTE reg season last year, 8 ppg in the playoffs.
9.7 ppg in the NBL.
On paper I think he looks great, has his moments but also at the same time he should be absolutely destroying these leagues at least for stretches and we have really not seen that.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:41 pm
by Bassman
JMAC3 wrote:He averaged 11 ppg in the OTE reg season last year, 8 ppg in the playoffs.
9.7 ppg in the NBL.
On paper I think he looks great, has his moments but also at the same time he should be absolutely destroying these leagues at least for stretches and we have really not seen that.
I understand your comment, and it may fit who Sarr really is as a pro. Even if he’s never a mega all-star, Sarr could be the ultimate complimentary starter who makes everyone better while posting solid efficient numbers nightly. At the 4, his defense, athletic mobility, strong shooting basket to mid-range, passing, handle for a big, would be a huge benefit to our healthy core.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:22 am
by JustBuzzin
Kind of hard to get mad at the idea of a Sarr/Mark frontcourt. They could be lethal on defense.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:23 am
by JMAC3
Bassman wrote:JMAC3 wrote:He averaged 11 ppg in the OTE reg season last year, 8 ppg in the playoffs.
9.7 ppg in the NBL.
On paper I think he looks great, has his moments but also at the same time he should be absolutely destroying these leagues at least for stretches and we have really not seen that.
I understand your comment, and it may fit who Sarr really is as a pro. Even if he’s never a mega all-star, Sarr could be the ultimate complimentary starter who makes everyone better while posting solid efficient numbers nightly. At the 4, his defense, athletic mobility, strong shooting basket to mid-range, passing, handle for a big, would be a huge benefit to our healthy core.
I really like his defensive profile of being able to play the 4 or 5 in specific matchups. I don't think I love an offensive front court of Sarr and Mark, with the lack of 3 pt range but maybe it is something you just have to try even if you think it never works out.
He is on my short list, but think his offense is probably a bit overrated when you look at what it really is.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:03 pm
by JMAC3
Offensively he probably plays like a young PJ Washington in Charlotte. Mostly a catch and shoot guy, some small ball center stuff, some attacking closeout stuff but overall don't expect much more than a 4th or 5th option scorer for a few years.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon May 6, 2024 11:12 am
by lmcguir15
GoBobs wrote:Bassman wrote:wilson115 wrote:Just hope the character part's there. Who knew Kai was such a headcase.
Every time I watch Sarr footage, I come away with consistent strengths and weaknesses:
Strengths - Athletic long big, runs the floor well, quick footwork, springy shot blocker, great touch on put backs, nice short to mid shooting, very good shot form, good passer, really good handle for a big guy, seems to see the court well, moves well without the ball, good defender, can occasionally hit a 3, good energy, good feel for the game and IQ at his age.
Weaknesses - Thin…must develop strength to excel at next level, shooting from range, rebounding for his size is low (strength will help)
Question I Can’t Answer - Does Sarr have a frame that can add a lot more weight without harming his game? Still think Sarr can be most effective as a PF. Expanding his shooting range consistency will be the key. He has a LOT of tools and should be the #1 pick. I hope we can get him.
Question I have is which of these guys are going to continue to improve. Who is going to keep adding stuff to their game vs who is going to surround themselves with "yes" men and just enjoy being a young millionaire.
In the same vein, who has the most to work with? I think general agreement is that this class doesn't have a standout #1 guy. The goal should still be to find a stud, which means I'm leaning tools. No one is a finished product, so give me the ceiling. Sarr is at the top of my big board for this reason -- his length, athleticism for his size and ability to slide to the 5 in "smaller" lineups are things I can work with.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon May 6, 2024 9:15 pm
by Rich4114
Maybe Sarr is what we hoped Kai Jones would be. How is he in terms of being in the right spot, basketball iq, intangibles, etc.? Sarr seems to be the consensus #1 pick in a draft everyone is saying has no consensus #1 pick. Why do I see him as the first guy on virtually every mock?
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon May 6, 2024 9:18 pm
by Rich4114
Wow I take that last statement back, now Tankathon for example has us taking Rischar if we win the top pick lol
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon May 6, 2024 9:37 pm
by JMAC3
I think he is the most likely top 3 pick... whereas Holland, Risacher, Topic, Dillingham could all fall to 5 or worse.
I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if he wasn't #1 though.
Even post lottery I think we will still be in a lot of speculation of who goes where.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Mon May 6, 2024 11:00 pm
by yosemiteben
JMAC3 wrote:I think he is the most likely top 3 pick... whereas Holland, Risacher, Topic, Dillingham could all fall to 5 or worse.
I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if he wasn't #1 though.
Even post lottery I think we will still be in a lot of speculation of who goes where.
Should be a fun draft to watch
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Tue May 7, 2024 1:20 am
by Bassman
Risacher is gaining renewed prominence with his recent play. His shooting is strong from 3 and he’s reportedly exhibiting the skills that had him projected at the top of the draft.
Re: 2024 Draft Prospect: Alex Sarr
Posted: Tue May 7, 2024 1:35 am
by Liver_Pooty
Bassman wrote:Risacher is gaining renewed prominence with his recent play. His shooting is strong from 3 and he’s reportedly exhibiting the skills that had him projected at the top of the draft.
I'm starting to hop on the train myself.