Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting

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How egregious is Jalen Brunson foul baiting?

Embiid/Harden, Top level
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23%
Giannis/Doncic/SGA level
22
15%
Lillard/Butler/AD level
35
24%
Average star
29
20%
Below average
9
6%
What Foul baiting?
15
10%
 
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#121 » by Bob Ross » Sat May 4, 2024 4:25 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
RunOKC wrote:He has to with how refs call he game for him from what I've seen

The fouls he baited in the late fourth were just smart plays against Defenders riding him too close



That's how Embiid gets some of his calls. Defenders barely touch him, but that's technically a foul. People need to keep that same energy.


The two are not remotely close. You will never admit that but it's true.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#122 » by NoStatsGuy » Sat May 4, 2024 4:35 pm

eyeatoma MOVE ON or you want anober GB ban?

the knicks were the better team and had the best player in the series period point blank. i know it hurts.. trust me, being a knicks fan wasnt easy. but you gotta move on bro. you are onto some bs and i just wanna prevent you from being banned again.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#123 » by zero rings » Sat May 4, 2024 5:15 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
RunOKC wrote:He has to with how refs call he game for him from what I've seen

The fouls he baited in the late fourth were just smart plays against Defenders riding him too close



That's how Embiid gets some of his calls. Defenders barely touch him, but that's technically a foul. People need to keep that same energy.


Embiid just throws himself into defenders and flings the ball in the air with no intention of making the shot. Anyone who’s ever played basketball knows these are not legitimate shots. He’s playing for the whistle 100%.

It’s not comparable to Brunson pulling up for a floater with a defender trailing him. Yes he’s seeking out contact, but these are shots he’s very capable of making.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#124 » by AlexanderRight » Sat May 4, 2024 6:33 pm

Surprised to see Giannis on this list, I never saw him as a foul baiter. He just bulldozes to the rim strong and whoever is in his way is in his way. He doesn't go out of his way to change direction away from the rim to purposely make contact with someone. He just goes ultra hard to the rim and DGAF if there's contact.
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Post#125 » by Lalouie » Sat May 4, 2024 7:35 pm

change the rules appropriately. foul baiting is an offensive foul with the whole "space" rationale being a poor excuse
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#126 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat May 4, 2024 7:47 pm

Bob Ross wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
RunOKC wrote:He has to with how refs call he game for him from what I've seen

The fouls he baited in the late fourth were just smart plays against Defenders riding him too close



That's how Embiid gets some of his calls. Defenders barely touch him, but that's technically a foul. People need to keep that same energy.


The two are not remotely close. You will never admit that but it's true.


I have never seen a guy hurt another player like that, not get ejected, and then go on to get 20 free throws. This is like some god mode cheat code stuff. They legit had to get Adam Silver in the building in the next game to show the refs who was boss, and Embiid still ended up ramming his elbow into Brunson’s face.

I can’t lie - I WANT Jalen Brunson to get that treatment. Hell, I want that type of power in 2K.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#127 » by islanders11040 » Sat May 4, 2024 8:02 pm

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yup. this pretty much explains it all. Brunson beats all these guys off the dribble and takes advantage of their aggressive attempts to get back in defensive position with legal straight up and down pull up jumpers.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#129 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 9, 2024 1:40 pm

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Post#130 » by blueNorange » Thu May 9, 2024 1:50 pm

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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#131 » by blueNorange » Thu May 9, 2024 1:51 pm

also turner literally set a moving screen on that play

was it an intentional screen? no, but that’s smart on brunson — forcing turner to set a screen without even wanting tio
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#132 » by cgf » Thu May 9, 2024 2:01 pm

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How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#133 » by srhcan » Sun May 12, 2024 9:12 pm

I really like Brunson but this playoffs I have seen him repeatedly foul baiting and flopping which has lower his respect for me. How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping so that he can go back to be a genuine good player liked by all?
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Re: How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#134 » by vulture » Sun May 12, 2024 9:24 pm

You can’t. He has the combo of harden and trae young level grifting. He uses every trick in the book.
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Re: How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#135 » by mademan » Sun May 12, 2024 9:25 pm

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Post#136 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun May 12, 2024 9:27 pm

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Re: How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#137 » by RookieStar » Sun May 12, 2024 9:37 pm

I said this in my board... knicks are my 2nd team this season. Before we even thought of sniffing the Po, i already decided to follow them in their PO quest... but maaaaaan... Brunson is nearing Kyle Lowry levels of flopping.
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Re: How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#138 » by Bernman » Sun May 12, 2024 9:42 pm

The arm flail into the opposing defender's established area is the most annoying trick, and it's not something you see called much anymore, outside of by the new Knick Bavettas. He got it from Harden & Kawhi, but for the former it's a big reason why he experiences diminishing returns in the playoffs. I don't think JB would get it on any other team but the Knicks & Lakers.
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Re: How can you stop Brunson's foul baiting and flopping? 

Post#139 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sun May 12, 2024 9:44 pm

Any good/great guard under 6-3 without crazy athleticism is going to be something of a foul baiter/grifter.
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Re: Let's talk Jalen Brunson foul baiting 

Post#140 » by shi-woo » Sun May 12, 2024 10:12 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:

yup. this pretty much explains it all. Brunson beats all these guys off the dribble and takes advantage of their aggressive attempts to get back in defensive position with legal straight up and down pull up jumpers.


Pretty much, him and Mitchel have mastered the "get the guy on your hip" and dudes just can't guard it given the current rule set of the NBA which demands shooters have space. Why they are are both going for 40 so much, they are elite shooters, so you can't guard them in space 1v1 until their is a rule change or teams learn to defend it. There isnt going to be a change so teams just need to play smarter and try new things

We saw IND do a better job tonight and the results were clear. With no OG attacking off the dribble and one less shooter in the game, Pacers were able to guard his shooting hand, collapse on his drives, and then rotate out quick to Donte and Hart. Not sure if that defense would work in a 5 out or with OG, but it mitigated Jalens ability to break his man down off the dribble tonight. Pacers rotations were absolutely incredible in this game, so with no 2ndary scorer, Brunson was just on an island

Expect to see more of it in the coming games, and Brunson needs to adjust. Quick actions with the ball starting in Harts hands would be my guess, but we'll see.

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