2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2)

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Who wins and goes to the WCFs?

Thunder in 4
12
4%
Thunder in 5
30
9%
Thunder in 6
67
21%
Thunder in 7
39
12%
Mavericks in 4
3
1%
Mavericks in 5
13
4%
Mavericks in 6
128
39%
Mavericks in 7
34
10%
 
Total votes: 326

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 2-1) 

Post#4161 » by Archx » Tue May 14, 2024 9:58 am

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Pablo Escobar wrote:Luka needs to take his fitness seriously this offseason. Absolutely unacceptable to be overweigh as a professional.

He lost alot of weight when the season started this year. I don't know what happened


It's literally incredible how an athlete of his calibre and TALENT gains so much weight over the NBA season. You play literally non stop but can't stay in shape? This lazy MF will end up as one of the biggest "what if" stories if this continues. He's usually on vacation for like 2 months and works out for a week or two. It's so ridiculous how his body breaks down all the time....
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Post#4162 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue May 14, 2024 10:41 am

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Post#4163 » by Doranku » Tue May 14, 2024 10:50 am

As someone heavily rooting for the Mavs, gotta tip the hat to SGA. Pretty much singlehandedly stole the game and probably the series from the Mavs. Ridiculous shotmaking and ISO scoring. He is easily the 2nd best player in the NBA.
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Post#4164 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue May 14, 2024 10:58 am

Can’t quite make out what Jalen’s saying

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Post#4165 » by Handlez » Tue May 14, 2024 11:14 am

Luka...just speechless.

Now I'm not convinced it's mostly injury.

He moves well defensively and looks fine physically at times.

He's just been abysmal.
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Post#4166 » by MMyhre » Tue May 14, 2024 11:26 am

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Like what ?


Apparently he's a big beer drinker.


His face is all bloated. He needs to quit the booze and he’ll be good to go imo

He probably gets Cortisone shots or another corticosteroid for the pain and swelling in his knee - man made cortisol :

"To reduce inflammation, steroids suppress the immune system and alter the body’s natural chemistry. In the process, they change the electrolyte and water balance, and the way the body uses and stores carbohydrates, proteins, fats and glucose. These changes can result in fluid retention, increased appetite and increased fat deposits, especially in the face, neck and abdomen."

Other potential factors since he has probably been taking these corticosteroids for his knee for a while =
"Disruption of the workings of the pituitary and adrenal glands may occur where long periods of high-dose corticosteroids have severely decreased the body’s natural cortisol production". And when we dont produce it ourselves, it can increase ADH which causes heavy water retention :

"Hyponatremia is often seen in patients with adrenal insufficiency, which is caused by an inappropriate increase in vasopressin secretion/action due to cortisol deficiency [4] and inability to excrete free water. Cortisol deficiency results in increased hypothalamic secretion of corticotropin releasing hormone (CRH), an ADH secretagogue. Cortisol feeds back negatively on CRH and ACTH, an inhibitory effect that is removed with adrenal insufficiency. In addition, cortisol appears to directly suppress ADH secretion. Thus, ADH levels increase when plasma cortisol levels are low."

"In hyponatremia, one or more factors — ranging from an underlying medical condition to drinking too much water — cause the sodium in your body to become diluted. When this happens, your body's water levels rise, and your cells begin to swell. This swelling can cause many health problems, from mild to life-threatening"

Likely to be one of these causes or some combinations + eating too much salt, sugar, I doubt he is so unprofessional as to drink in the playoffs, just general stress and inflammation blabla++ - but I dont know how fast the body stops producing cortisol itself, and if it still causes these ADH and fluid retention side effects if there is no natural production but synthetic cortisol in the bloodstream blabla ++ - interesting stuff regardless.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Series tied 2-2) 

Post#4167 » by CodeBreaker » Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

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Post#4168 » by KembaWalker » Tue May 14, 2024 11:29 am

My guy PJ needs some help out there
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Post#4169 » by MMyhre » Tue May 14, 2024 11:34 am

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Dude is a midrange god. Reminds me of 2021 Kawhi

Using those long arms well, high, consistent and very stable release. Tough.
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Post#4170 » by sunsbg » Tue May 14, 2024 11:42 am

Archx wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:Luka needs to take his fitness seriously this offseason. Absolutely unacceptable to be overweigh as a professional.

He lost alot of weight when the season started this year. I don't know what happened


It's literally incredible how an athlete of his calibre and TALENT gains so much weight over the NBA season. You play literally non stop but can't stay in shape? This lazy MF will end up as one of the biggest "what if" stories if this continues. He's usually on vacation for like 2 months and works out for a week or two. It's so ridiculous how his body breaks down all the time....


The insane usage rate at such young age was always going to be a problem later in his career. Having a great start of your career coming in the league with advanced skills and 27yo looking body, doesn't mean one can sustain it. It takes a toll on the body especially with his play style. Going forward he should trust his teammates more and try to improve off ball skills. GOAT expectations were never realistic, but he can still win MVPs and titles without dominating the ball so much.
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Post#4171 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 11:51 am

Mavs threw that one away with ft shooting
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Post#4172 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 11:54 am

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Archx wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:He lost alot of weight when the season started this year. I don't know what happened


It's literally incredible how an athlete of his calibre and TALENT gains so much weight over the NBA season. You play literally non stop but can't stay in shape? This lazy MF will end up as one of the biggest "what if" stories if this continues. He's usually on vacation for like 2 months and works out for a week or two. It's so ridiculous how his body breaks down all the time....


The insane usage rate at such young age was always going to be a problem later in his career. Having a great start of your career coming in the league with advanced skills and 27yo looking body, doesn't mean one can sustain it. It takes a toll on the body especially with his play style. Going forward he should trust his teammates more and try to improve off ball skills. GOAT expectations were never realistic, but he can still win MVPs and titles without dominating the ball so much.


He’s nowhere near as fit as he might be

That’s not a 27 yo looking body

It’s a lack of discipline
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Post#4173 » by srhcan » Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

Even if Mavs somehow beat OKC in this series, they are mental midget and do not stand a chance against Nuggets
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Post#4174 » by sunsbg » Tue May 14, 2024 12:05 pm

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He’s nowhere near as fit as he might be

That’s not a 27 yo looking body

It’s a lack of discipline


He had 27yo looking body when he came into the league. Back then I said he'll probably look 30+ in his mid 20s.

I was warned by a doctor about a medicine that has effect on the face. Don't remember what type as I didn't have to take it in the end, but like others I guess that's the case with Luka at the moment. That said he has undoubtedly diet problems too.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 2-1) 

Post#4175 » by CodeBreaker » Tue May 14, 2024 12:32 pm

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Archx wrote:
It's literally incredible how an athlete of his calibre and TALENT gains so much weight over the NBA season. You play literally non stop but can't stay in shape? This lazy MF will end up as one of the biggest "what if" stories if this continues. He's usually on vacation for like 2 months and works out for a week or two. It's so ridiculous how his body breaks down all the time....


The insane usage rate at such young age was always going to be a problem later in his career. Having a great start of your career coming in the league with advanced skills and 27yo looking body, doesn't mean one can sustain it. It takes a toll on the body especially with his play style. Going forward he should trust his teammates more and try to improve off ball skills. GOAT expectations were never realistic, but he can still win MVPs and titles without dominating the ball so much.


He’s nowhere near as fit as he might be

That’s not a 27 yo looking body

It’s a lack of discipline

thought he had GOAT potential, maybe I was wrong.
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Post#4176 » by durden_tyler » Tue May 14, 2024 12:35 pm

With all the talk (and overreaction) i think we can expect Fat Luka to drop 50 points in Game 5?


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Post#4177 » by Texas Chuck » Tue May 14, 2024 12:40 pm

Major props to SGA for getting to his spot and knocking down every shot down the stretch. Incredible. And to the two defensive guards Dort and Wallace making big 3's late.

OKC made the plays and Dallas didn't. Hurts to have let that one get away, but full credit to OKC for taking that game.
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Post#4178 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue May 14, 2024 12:50 pm

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Post#4179 » by Bergmaniac » Tue May 14, 2024 12:57 pm

Pretty amazing that the Thunder managed to pull this one off with JDub being horrendous all game and everyone on the team bricking their 3s their first 3 quarters. SGA is an incredible tough shot maker, he maintains a high efficiency even in games like this one where he has to resort to tough midrange shots over and over again due to the lack of spacing.
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Post#4180 » by jourdy » Tue May 14, 2024 1:03 pm

Watching the game in the 3rd qtr, I already knew OKC would come back and win. Just a gut feel with how sloppy Dallas was playing after that great first quarter.

Big props to Shai in that 4th quarter, I had Kawhi flashbacks from 2021.



Watching this Dallas team miss half the FTs is so disappointing. During the whole Dirk era, FTs were something I never had doubts over. But when Luka was at the line and had an opportunity to tie, I just knew he was going to miss at least 1.

I know Luka is injured and doesn't have the moves he usually does getting separation from his defender or blowing by them with his change of pace - but he shouldn't demand the ball in terrible positioning. He was a turnover machine in this game. That last turnover by Hardaway that led to the JDub layup was the stupidest TO I've seen in this playoffs. No space by the sideline and he demands the ball from Hardaway which was easily stolen!


Dallas lost this game with their terrible FTs but also lost the rebounding edge that made them win games 2 and 3. OKC was just quicker to the ball, and seeing Luka limp his way to close out on one of those OKC threes in a close game. He had no chance. Maybe someday he will start taking his conditioning better.

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