Potential for clock abuse during games

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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#21 » by Cubbies2120 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 8:07 am

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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#22 » by Cubbies2120 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 8:10 am

Been noticing Jokic doing this for most of the season when they're up in 3rd/4th Q, he'll go inbound ball but waits for it to bounce few times after made bucket, turns around slowly to pick it up, and if there's no defender motions to his teammate to let it roll. Take 5-6 secs off clock each time after a made bucket.
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#23 » by Tnasty4l » Sat Jan 7, 2023 11:33 am

Don't penalize a team for having a big enough lead where this would even be a topic. The losing team is the one who needs to speed the game up. If they don't pressure the ball that's on them.
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#24 » by old skool » Sat Jan 7, 2023 4:31 pm

I don't consider a strategy to be "abuse" when it can be counteracted by the defense.

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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#25 » by Cubbies2120 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 6:05 pm

old skool wrote:I don't consider a strategy to be "abuse" when it can be counteracted by the defense.

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Can it though? You can realistically waste at least 6-7 seconds after every made bucket with the defense not being able to do ANYTHING.

Watch Jokic in late 3rd Q / 4th Q before the clock stops after made buckets (2min mark).

1. Basket is made
2. Jokic walks slowly to out of bounds, letting the ball bounce few times, turns around picks it up - 2 or 3 secs elapse off clock
3. Waits a few seconds to inbound again - another 3 secs elapse
4a. If defense is pressed up, it's just a total of 5-6 seconds that go off clock
4b. If defense is NOT pressed up, it can be 10+ seconds going off clock

So to summarize, the defense is absolutely helpless for clock burning for a MINIMUM of 5-6 seconds. Doesn't seem like a lot but it adds up over course of game.
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#26 » by Cubbies2120 » Thu May 16, 2024 7:07 pm

Thought this would be a timely bump of a thread from a few years back...Jokic really takes this to the next level as y'all are seeing now.
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#27 » by flranger » Thu May 16, 2024 7:11 pm

I guess. Count me fully in support of shenanigans that makes these games shorter, not more rules to make them even longer.
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#28 » by Darth Celtic » Thu May 16, 2024 7:22 pm

Celtics did this all the time cuz we were always up so big in 4th. They took it a step further and rolled ball so soft it stopped and had a second player screening defenders coming up to make us pick it up. Think I saw it take 15 seconds off before
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Re: Potential for clock abuse during games 

Post#29 » by meekrab » Thu May 16, 2024 7:32 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:GOAT walk the dog play:


If they were planning to foul anyway why the heck didn't Nelson pressure the ball immediately? :lol:

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