davidfr94 wrote:Even if we win this series (something we wouldn't deserve), you cannot be pleased with what you are seeing from this pacers team.
You struggled a lot against the bucks without giannis in a series you could have easily lost without that game winning shot by haliburton.
Then you face this Knicks team that is playing without two starters and their backup center and their best player off the bench and you are getting blown out while being pretty much at full strenght ?
You are supposed to have two max player (counting siakam) and you cannot dominate this Knicks team playing without FOUR IMPORTANT PLAYERS ?
I am not sure we really have a choice giving siakam that max contrat but man that guy is such a weird player. i don't know if this New version of him, going from that Athletic, Quick do it all forward to this kind of slow/smooth post UP player, IS really what we needed to take that next Step.
He lacks strengh so he has trouble getting to his spot and doesn't dominate at all out there on both end of the floor. He can't even take advantage of being guarded by hart. That is not a max player at all for me.
At some point it is important not confusing inexperience and just not being very good.
I think that you are losing the forest for the trees here, my friend.
Before the season started, most people (fans and pundits alike) had us as either a lottery or a play-in team. When we were doing well early on in the season, people loved calling the Pacers "Hali and the scrubs". Let's not pretend that we're some kind of superteam here. Yes, the Siakam trade did raise expectations a bit but no one thought that it made us contenders. Because we aren't contenders. We aren't pretending to be contenders either. We are way too early in our trajectory for any of that.
The goal for us this year was to make the playoffs so our young guys can get valuable playoff experience. We reached that goal.
Then we won our first round series which is not something anyone expected us to do (since people expected Giannis to return and the Bucks to eventually beat us).
And now we're in the second round. No one expected us to be here. People have been calling us the weakest team in the playoffs for a couple weeks now. And we keep getting more and more experience for our young guys. Playing against this immensely tough Knicks team in a high-pressure situation and pushing this series to at least 6 games. That's how you galvanize a young team. That's how a young team learns how to win down the road. That's where it grows.
And, yes, the Knicks are missing a number of players. That is definitely true. But they are also a team coach by Tom Thibodeau. And that means a couple of things. The first of those things is that they are probably going to miss some players in the playoffs. That's how it goes with Thibodeau's teams, they are rarely fully healthy in the post-season. But the other and more important thing is that Thibodeau's teams are always, always much better than the sum of its parts. They are the embodiment of next man up mentality. They have to be. If they weren't, they wouldn't be able to survive the wear and tear that his style results to.
This has been evident throughout the run that the Knicks have had in the latter part of this year. Hart started the season on the bench and now he's not just a starter, he's playing 43.6 MPG in the playoffs while being 4th in RPG these playoffs. DiVincenzo wasn't a starter at the start of the season either. Neither was Hartenstein. McBride wasn't even in the rotation.
The Nova Knicks weren't a thing at the start of the season. They became a thing due to injuries and trades. And they became a thing exactly because Thibodeau's teams embody the next man up mentality. Randle goes down? That's alright, Hart will step up. RJ Barrett and Quickley are traded away? That's alright, DiVincenzo and McBride are here. Heck, we're seeing it in this series. Just look at Alec Burks.
That's what Thibs does. That's why his teams have only had 2 losing seasons (out of 10 full seasons) and why he has a 57.5% winning percentage.