What's your teams best offer for Donovan Mitchell?
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Stars make their teammates better. I just don't see that with Mitchell. Missing 2 playoff games with minor injury? Pass.
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KnicksManiac wrote:Knicks Trade:
-Bojan Bogdanovic (expiring)
-Deuce McBride
-DaQuan Jeffries
-Jericho Sims
-2024 Knicks 1st Round Pick
-2024 Mavs 1st Round Pick
-2024 Wizards 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2024 Pistons 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2025 Bucks 1st Round Pick (protected)
-2025 Pick Swap
-2026 Knicks 1st Round Pick (unprotected)
-2027 Pick Swap
-2028 Knicks 1st Round Pick (top 10 protected)
Cavs Trade:
Donovan Mitchell
Just insanity. Brunson and Mitchell cannot play together. And why would you want to take the ball out of Brunson's hands for an inferior player?
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Chuck Everett wrote:KnicksManiac wrote:Knicks Trade:
-Bojan Bogdanovic (expiring)
-Deuce McBride
-DaQuan Jeffries
-Jericho Sims
-2024 Knicks 1st Round Pick
-2024 Mavs 1st Round Pick
-2024 Wizards 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2024 Pistons 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2025 Bucks 1st Round Pick (protected)
-2025 Pick Swap
-2026 Knicks 1st Round Pick (unprotected)
-2027 Pick Swap
-2028 Knicks 1st Round Pick (top 10 protected)
Cavs Trade:
Donovan Mitchell
Just insanity. Brunson and Mitchell cannot play together. And why would you want to take the ball out of Brunson's hands for an inferior player?
I think they can definitely play together. Brunson would still be the primary ball handler. It would be a small backcourt defensively, but they’d have size in the front court to make up for it with OG/Randle/Hartenstein.
Is that enough of a haul for the Cavs to trade Donovan Mitchell if he tells them he’s not re-signing with them? Does that beat the player packages that other teams will offer?
For the Knicks, 7 picks and 2 swaps *seems* like a lot on the surface, but hear me out: The 2024 Knicks/Mavs picks are late first rounders in a bad draft. The Detroit/Washington protected picks are late first rounders or would convert to 2nd rounders down the line. The Bucks protected pick will convert next year, but it’ll be another late first rounder with Dame on Giannis still there. The hope/expectation with the 2025/2027 swaps is that we will have the better team so the Cavs would have the better pick (and thus, not swap with us). The 2026 unprotected pick will be when our core is still very much in their prime. 2028 who knows, but that’s why there is top 10 protection there.
This would give the Knicks the following rotation with everyone in their prime for 3+ more years:
Jalen Brunson / FA
Donovan Mitchell / Donte DiVincenzo
OG Anunoby / Josh Hart
Julius Randle / FA / Josh Hart
Isaiah Hartenstein / Mitchell Robinson
Gotta go for it at some point. I think that team gives us a real shot to be a contender year in and year out.
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Laimbeer wrote:For reference the Cavs gave up -
Unprotected FRPs in 2025, 2027, 2029
Unprotected swaps in 2026 and 2028
Lauri Markkanen
Collin Sexton
Ochai Agbaji
Danny Ainge is a bad human being.
Sheesh, and people still bring up the PG/OKC trade after this?
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- Butler to Cavs or to 3rd team for stuff the Cavs want
- one pick
- one young player, Jaquez or Jovic or Herro
- one pick
- one young player, Jaquez or Jovic or Herro
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To bring da Spida back home is worth it so NY can cue this...KnicksManiac wrote:Knicks Trade:
-Bojan Bogdanovic (expiring)
-Deuce McBride
-DaQuan Jeffries
-Jericho Sims
-2024 Knicks 1st Round Pick
-2024 Mavs 1st Round Pick
-2024 Wizards 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2024 Pistons 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2025 Bucks 1st Round Pick (protected)
-2025 Pick Swap
-2026 Knicks 1st Round Pick (unprotected)
-2027 Pick Swap
-2028 Knicks 1st Round Pick (top 10 protected)
Cavs Trade:
Donovan Mitchell
https://youtu.be/YXqaqb1OB84?si=qE8MeSpWwTxG_hAH
It's a win win!
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BigGargamel wrote:Laimbeer wrote:For reference the Cavs gave up -
Unprotected FRPs in 2025, 2027, 2029
Unprotected swaps in 2026 and 2028
Lauri Markkanen
Collin Sexton
Ochai Agbaji
Danny Ainge is a bad human being.
Man...everyone talks about the Gobert trade but this one is brutal as well. Ainge is a shark.
And Koby needs to be banned from the water!
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Laimbeer wrote:For reference the Cavs gave up -
Unprotected FRPs in 2025, 2027, 2029
Unprotected swaps in 2026 and 2028
Lauri Markkanen
Collin Sexton
Ochai Agbaji
Danny Ainge is a bad human being.
it wasn't a great trade since it was always going to result in a very small backcourt with real issues defending. That said, this trade package is the going price for a star that gives you a chance to make a deep playoff run and that's what they got but it was derailed by injuries. So it's not as bad as people are making it out to be unless they lose Mitchell for nothing which we know they won't.
Agbaji is irrelevant. Sexton is jag. Markkanen is nice. The swaps may never happen and even if they did it would only likely be a minimal difference. The three FRP, if Mitchell stays, are likely all in the 20s. If they trade him now they can recoup some or all of them and they'll likely be higher picks than their own would have been (provided they keep Garland and Mobley and build around them and stay competitive) at the end of the day. Per usual on RealGM people are being hyperbolic.
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Bornstellar wrote:I'd give the 4th and 8th pick this season plus a top-5 protected 2025 1st, 2026 swap rights, and the 2027 Hawks pick + Keldon Johnson and whatever filler. Wemby + Mitchell would be a nice duo and SA would still have plenty of assets
Pending my 2 targets for this year's draft (Risacher and Knecht) being available at said slots (hell, I might pull the trigger as soon as Risacher was available, and just hope/swap for Knecht if off the table at 8) I'd be all over this personally.
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Godymas wrote:Washington Wizards tried to trade for Mitchell when he was leaving Utah
today's trade would be as follows:
#2 overall pick in the 2024 NBA draft
Jordan Poole (he will do much better in Cleveland)
Corey Kispert (highly underrated)
I might pay you to KEEP Poole...
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Narigo wrote:Vvuc Lavine and Pat for Mitchell
My initial thought was "YUCK!", thinking Pat was Pat Beverley! But even even for Patrick Williams, it's hard to get excited about... "Better than letting him walk", I guess? But I prefer a more youth/immediate draft capital-based package.
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Heat3 wrote:I am offering Jimmy Butler and a draft pick plus minimum extra players from both sides to make salaries work.
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Chuck Everett wrote:KnicksManiac wrote:Knicks Trade:
-Bojan Bogdanovic (expiring)
-Deuce McBride
-DaQuan Jeffries
-Jericho Sims
-2024 Knicks 1st Round Pick
-2024 Mavs 1st Round Pick
-2024 Wizards 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2024 Pistons 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2025 Bucks 1st Round Pick (protected)
-2025 Pick Swap
-2026 Knicks 1st Round Pick (unprotected)
-2027 Pick Swap
-2028 Knicks 1st Round Pick (top 10 protected)
Cavs Trade:
Donovan Mitchell
Just insanity. Brunson and Mitchell cannot play together. And why would you want to take the ball out of Brunson's hands for an inferior player?
I agree with your assessment, more or less. But this offer is really a bit of a nothing-burger anyway, so both teams should probably pass.
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KnicksManiac wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:KnicksManiac wrote:Knicks Trade:
-Bojan Bogdanovic (expiring)
-Deuce McBride
-DaQuan Jeffries
-Jericho Sims
-2024 Knicks 1st Round Pick
-2024 Mavs 1st Round Pick
-2024 Wizards 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2024 Pistons 1st Round Pick (protected, will not convey this year)
-2025 Bucks 1st Round Pick (protected)
-2025 Pick Swap
-2026 Knicks 1st Round Pick (unprotected)
-2027 Pick Swap
-2028 Knicks 1st Round Pick (top 10 protected)
Cavs Trade:
Donovan Mitchell
Just insanity. Brunson and Mitchell cannot play together. And why would you want to take the ball out of Brunson's hands for an inferior player?
I think they can definitely play together. Brunson would still be the primary ball handler. It would be a small backcourt defensively, but they’d have size in the front court to make up for it with OG/Randle/Hartenstein.
Is that enough of a haul for the Cavs to trade Donovan Mitchell if he tells them he’s not re-signing with them? Does that beat the player packages that other teams will offer?
For the Knicks, 7 picks and 2 swaps *seems* like a lot on the surface, but hear me out: The 2024 Knicks/Mavs picks are late first rounders in a bad draft. The Detroit/Washington protected picks are late first rounders or would convert to 2nd rounders down the line. The Bucks protected pick will convert next year, but it’ll be another late first rounder with Dame on Giannis still there. The hope/expectation with the 2025/2027 swaps is that we will have the better team so the Cavs would have the better pick (and thus, not swap with us). The 2026 unprotected pick will be when our core is still very much in their prime. 2028 who knows, but that’s why there is top 10 protection there.
This would give the Knicks the following rotation with everyone in their prime for 3+ more years:
Jalen Brunson / FA
Donovan Mitchell / Donte DiVincenzo
OG Anunoby / Josh Hart
Julius Randle / FA / Josh Hart
Isaiah Hartenstein / Mitchell Robinson
Gotta go for it at some point. I think that team gives us a real shot to be a contender year in and year out.
This offer basically fills out their bench and the Cleveland Charge's roster. It's like fairy-floss, there's nothing really there...
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Jamal Murray for Donovan Mitchell plus some normal bench guy
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LaLover11 wrote:AD/Reaves for Mitchell & Allen
Works out for both teams and valid on ESPN trade
Lakers finally get a scoring guard to carry the offensive load and a real center to help defend Jokic/Embiid
Cavs get AD who can become the #1 option and Reaves to play next to Garland.
DLo, Mitchell, LeBron, Rui, Allen
Garland, Reaves, Caris, Mobley, AD
Cavs ask for more in this.
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Another interesting question would be, where does Donovan Mitchell make sense? What's his ideal environment to get a ring?
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for a smart team? absolutely nothing.