Jokic has never beaten a 50 win team in the playoffs

[scrabbarista]

Okay, by all means, you tell me what other championship winners didn't have to beat a single 50 win team while being able to face two 8th seeds, one of them being their finals opponent.

There were 6 50 win teams in the league last year and Denver was one of them and the East had 4. Would it have been more impressive for Denver to beat that juggernaut 3 seed that was the Kings or maybe even face that powerhouse Cavs team in the Finals?

Parity is a thing. Get used to it. There were only 4 teams that had more than 51 wins this year. 50 wins isn’t the benchmark you think it is.

Cool beans, now I’ll ask again: name an NBA champion who got to face 0 50 win teams AND faced two 8 seeds. Again, I’ll wait.

1999 Spurs. You can stop waiting.

[C3H6N6O6]

You can argue that Embiid is just as good as Jokic in regular season but there is no way you can say that when it comes to playoffs.

Hell, I was sure that Embiid would have won the MVP this year but even then I'd take Jokic over him every time in the playoffs.

[Iwasawitness]

There were 6 50 win teams in the league last year and Denver was one of them and the East had 4. Would it have been more impressive for Denver to beat that juggernaut 3 seed that was the Kings or maybe even face that powerhouse Cavs team in the Finals?

Parity is a thing. Get used to it. There were only 4 teams that had more than 51 wins this year. 50 wins isn’t the benchmark you think it is.

Cool beans, now I’ll ask again: name an NBA champion who got to face 0 50 win teams AND faced two 8 seeds. Again, I’ll wait.

1999 Spurs. You can stop waiting.

See? Was this so hard?

With that said, I’m afraid this doesn’t count as it was a lockout shortened season.

[scrabbarista]

Cool beans, now I’ll ask again: name an NBA champion who got to face 0 50 win teams AND faced two 8 seeds. Again, I’ll wait.

1999 Spurs. You can stop waiting.

See? Was this so hard?

With that said, I’m afraid this doesn’t count as it was a lockout shortened season.

Maybe Denver is the only one to ever do it.

[dhsilv2]

Genuinely curious...

Is it true Kobe beat more 50+ win teams in the playoffs than anyone?

By just simple era/math it would almost have to be him or Duncan. Both played in this modern era of number of playoff rounds that guys didn't have before. Then they were both in the west where their was a power/balance issue.

[dhsilv2]

Bubble Clippers won 49/72, that's an equivalent 55-56 win team, soo...

Thought it was odd lakers fans were piling on given they hate the "Disney ring" story...

[Biff]

Somewhat of a technicality. The 19-20 Clippers won 49 in 72 games and would have without question won 50 in an 82 game season.

[og15]

When you win all arguments for a players greatness are validated

When you lose all arguments for a players shortcomings are validated

Everything is about winning.....

This is a pretty poor way for us to continue bad analysis of a team game lol

If you want consistency in analysis we would have to change as humans.

I have always preached that individual stats are a poor way of analyzing a players impact on a team game.....

I don't look it as either stats or win/lose. Stats are not all that encompasses production and impact, so I look at it as production and impact which you can surmise as "contribution".

So in the end it is about contribution, and there are many guys who make just as much contribution to winning a specific game or series as another guy does, and they lose. That's because in the end it's a team game, you can't defend the other team by yourself, you can't keep them off the glass yourself, you can't score all the points, therefore you can contribute as well or even better than an opposing or other star and still lose.

[NyKnicks1714]

This is a neat bit of trivia but not much more. Denver would have gotten through the West without much issue last year regardless of who they played, but they did get a pretty decent break in the Finals. One could reasonably argue it was their easiest series last year.

[syrus3]

Every title team has a bit of luck. The Celtics won’t have to face the Nuggets this year. See how easy that was?

[RB34]

Embiid/Philly Stans are so insecure and petty

JoJo has never even made the conference finals in a far less tougher conference as well.

But yeah, his 'playoff resume' is the same as Joker's lol

#DelusionalPearlers

The amount of Philly/Embiid fans I’ve seen celebrating on social media is ridiculous. As if Embiid didn’t embarrass himself on the way to another first round exit.

Difference is Embiid didn't win mvp this season. Jokic did. He deserves the criticism for failing to win game 7 on his home floor. Quit babying jokic.

Embiid won it last year and got bounced by the Celtics in the second round. He scored 15 points in game 7 and let Tatum go off for 51.

That was just after he choked in game 6, getting hunted in the 4th and had multiple 3’s drained in his face.

[Edrees]

Somewhat of a technicality. The 19-20 Clippers won 49 in 72 games and would have without question won 50 in an 82 game season.

Even only beating one 50 win team is an equally interesting stat

[Edrees]

Every title team has a bit of luck. The Celtics won’t have to face the Nuggets this year. See how easy that was?

Other than themselves, the Celtics dont even have to face any of the top 8 regular season teams in the league until they get to the finals. Thunder, Nuggets, Mavs, healthy Heat, healthy Bucks, healthy 76ers, would all have been tougher ECF matchups for them

[BelgradeNugget]

Somewhat of a technicality. The 19-20 Clippers won 49 in 72 games and would have without question won 50 in an 82 game season.

Even only beating one 50 win team is an equally interesting stat

Well 19-20 Jazz won 44 in 72 games for .611 winning percentage which would be 50 wins in 82 games season.

[DuallyNoted]

I haven't watched Jokic a ton,

holy **** maybe go watch basketball then instead of commenting on it

[doogie_hauser]

Every title team has a bit of luck. The Celtics won’t have to face the Nuggets this year. See how easy that was?

Other than themselves, the Celtics dont even have to face any of the top 8 regular season teams in the league until they get to the finals. Thunder, Nuggets, Mavs, healthy Heat, healthy Bucks, healthy 76ers, would all have been tougher ECF matchups for them

We beat the healthy Heat every time we played them in the regular season. We would have still waxed them had Jimmy Butler been available in the first round.

We have also pawned a healthy Phillhy every time we have met in the playoffs in the Embiid era, I see no reason why we wouldn't have done the same again this time.

I.tbink a full strength/injury free Knicks could have caused us issues, alas it wasn't to be.

Regardless, there has been an unprecedented amount of injuries to stars in the Eastern Conference, but we also did upgrade/improve roster in the off season, most other contenders in the East didn't (the Dame trade has been a failure so far for The Bucks)

Also age is catching up to teams like the Bucks and Heat, younger more athletic teams like the Pacers and Magic are overtaking them.

[An Unbiased Fan]

You can only beat the teams you are scheduled to play.

But they've been losing to 50 win teams they play.....

[shrink]

“Jokic has never beaten a 50 win team!”

Well he’s beaten them many times in the regular season. … “Oh, but I mean in the playoffs”

Well, he just beat the Wolves three times! … “Oh but he didn’t beat them a fourth time! See, Never!”

So he’s bad in the playoffs? … “Oh, no. He has the best stats in the NBA.”

So his team loses then? .. “Oh, not really. He’s beaten many many teams. But look at their regular season record.”

Ug. Cherry pick your stats outside of troll grove, please.

[Hussien Fatal]

Jokic in the playoffs is questionable. Regular season dude is a god though.

29//11/8 on 60TS% against the #1 defense and the DPOY at his position is 'questionable'

For those br8nging up Embiid, this still would be the best playoff performance of his career

Lol no it wouldn’t. Embiid just averaged 33/11/6 vs the Knicks.

[LordCovington33]

Embiid/Philly Stans are so insecure and petty

JoJo has never even made the conference finals in a far less tougher conference as well.

But yeah, his 'playoff resume' is the same as Joker's lol

#DelusionalPearlers

Both fanbases have outliers - it doesn’t represent the majority though. Just like when I saw 6 Embiid threads on page 1 after the sixers lost to the Knicks, I knew the majority of denver fans were not like that - just some attention-seekers fishing for and-1s.

Even now we have a fresh thread - weeks after the sixers lost.