Where do you Rank Scottie Pippen in 2024 Season

[MavsDirk41]

Top-20 player probably.

The Kawhi comparisons are absurd. Kawhi is a much better scorer than Pippen ever was. Healthy, peak Kawhi is closer to Jordan in impact than Pippen is to Kawhi.

Facts

[canada_dry]

Anyone that says pippen is as good as kawhi is on hard drugs.

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[Ito]

Scottie Pippen was about as good as Paul George. Obviously they’re not the same player, but their strengths and weaknesses are similar and so is their overall quality IMO. Obviously, Pippen was a greater player, since he had so much more team success and fewer injury issues, but I’m just talking here about individual quality. Peak Pippen would rank higher in the league than current Paul George does, since Paul George is past his peak now, but think about where peak Paul George landed and that’s probably about right.

Prime PG 30%-40% the player Pippen was.. Blazers pippen more impactful than PG.. George just has a better looking game and jump shot

[SelfishPlayer]

Leonard peaked higher than Pippen ever did. Leonard led his team to a championship while winning finals MVP and averaging 29/10/3. Even on these Clippers teams Leonard has always been the teams #1 option offensively and their best player. Leonard overall is a better player than Pippen, floor general or not. Pippen needed a system to play within - Bulls triangle offense with Jordan, those stacked Portland teams with Sabonis, Wallace, Stoudamire, Bonzi Well, Steve Smith. You can build a team around Leonard more so than Pippen can Leonard is the guy.

Leonard played with two MVPs.

The year before Pippen went to Portland they were the second seed in the west with a 35-15 record. They lost to San Antonio in the western conference finals. Portland was a very good team before Pippen went there. Pippen was a great 2 way player but he played with the goat. Leonard played with another top 10 ten player but he still peaker higher than Pippen.

Portland got swept during a lockout season. That season is not a well regarded season for anyone.

[SelfishPlayer]

Top-20 player probably.

The Kawhi comparisons are absurd. Kawhi is a much better scorer than Pippen ever was. Healthy, peak Kawhi is closer to Jordan in impact than Pippen is to Kawhi.

Wrong. Kawhi's highest VORP was 7.1. Pippen's highest VORP was 7.2. Jordan's highest VORP was 12.5!!!!!!!!

VORP is a cumulative stat. Kawhi misses tons of games.

Peak regular season BPM:

Jordan: 13.0
Kawhi: 10.1
Pippen: 7.7

Peak playoff BPM:

Jordan: 14.6
Kawhi: 14.2
Pippen: 7.8

Availability is the best ability. Kawhi needs to be well rested, Pippen doesn't...

[MavsDirk41]

Leonard played with two MVPs.

The year before Pippen went to Portland they were the second seed in the west with a 35-15 record. They lost to San Antonio in the western conference finals. Portland was a very good team before Pippen went there. Pippen was a great 2 way player but he played with the goat. Leonard played with another top 10 ten player but he still peaker higher than Pippen.

Portland got swept during a lockout season. That season is not a well regarded season for anyone.

They got swept by the Duncan/Admiral Spurs who won the championship. Yea it was a lockout season but do you regard the bubble season/bubble championship in higher regard?

Point is Pippen didnt really move the needle much for them. Portland was already a great team. Pippen peaked between 91-97.

Yea Leonard has availability issues for sure. Doesnt change that he peaked higher than Pippen and was a better 2 way player because his offensive game was much more advanced in comparison to Pippens.

[SelfishPlayer]

The year before Pippen went to Portland they were the second seed in the west with a 35-15 record. They lost to San Antonio in the western conference finals. Portland was a very good team before Pippen went there. Pippen was a great 2 way player but he played with the goat. Leonard played with another top 10 ten player but he still peaker higher than Pippen.

Portland got swept during a lockout season. That season is not a well regarded season for anyone.

They got swept by the Duncan/Admiral Spurs who won the championship. Yea it was a lockout season but do you regard the bubble season/bubble championship in higher regard?

Point is Pippen didnt really move the needle much for them. Portland was already a great team. Pippen peaked between 91-97.

Yea Leonard has availability issues for sure. Doesnt change that he peaked higher than Pippen and was a better 2 way player because his offensive game was much more advanced in comparison to Pippens.

There is no such thing as a great team that never made the Finals...

[Invictus88]

Wouldn't Paul George be a good comparison?

[MavsDirk41]

Portland got swept during a lockout season. That season is not a well regarded season for anyone.

They got swept by the Duncan/Admiral Spurs who won the championship. Yea it was a lockout season but do you regard the bubble season/bubble championship in higher regard?

Point is Pippen didnt really move the needle much for them. Portland was already a great team. Pippen peaked between 91-97.

Yea Leonard has availability issues for sure. Doesnt change that he peaked higher than Pippen and was a better 2 way player because his offensive game was much more advanced in comparison to Pippens.

There is no such thing as a great team that never made the Finals...

Alright then those Portland teams were very very good and deep with talent lol….with Pippen and before Pippen. Your point?