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The Cavs are averaging 17 points in the 3rd quarter through 4 games in this series.miamiheat319 wrote:What the hell happened in that third quarter??
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Magiclee wrote:ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:He had a bad game today but he was all over Mobley last game.
Yeah he had a bad game, but this has been all series long. When he went off it was with fadeaway jumpers. I want to see him put his shoulder into Mobley's chest like Mo's done and take it at him.
Paolo doesn’t really play that way. Yeah, he’ll put his shoulders to his man’s chest and just turn around and try and hit a middy or a long 2. But he’s young, getting to the rim will be part of his shooting repertoire soon.
Magiclee wrote:ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Magiclee wrote:
Yeah he had a bad game, but this has been all series long. When he went off it was with fadeaway jumpers. I want to see him put his shoulder into Mobley's chest like Mo's done and take it at him.
Paolo doesn’t really play that way. Yeah, he’ll put his shoulders to his man’s chest and just turn around and try and hit a middy or a long 2. But he’s young, getting to the rim will be part of his shooting repertoire soon.
I'd be fine with him dropping a shoulder and taking a step back. When Mobley is in front of him he pump fakes two times and passes out. He's not even pretending to challenge him. Mobley would have fouled out today if Paolo had challenged him a few times. He didn't do it once.
That's a terrible plan.Magiclee wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:No he wouldn't devour him. He would be getting pissed with all the dirty stuff Morris would be doing to him.Magiclee wrote:
The Cavs won two games pretty convincingly doing exactly what they've been doing. There's no reason to panic yet. Make us do it on the road. If we do it for a third time in a row then by all means, change it up. But there's a reason Morris doesn't play much. He's washed. Paolo would devour him and the game might already be over by the time you realize it.
And no the Cavs wins were not convincing... Winning by 40 is convincing, not whatever the Cavs did.
A pissed off Paolo is the last thing you want. If they're both on, you're toast. There's nothing you can do. You can't guard them both. But they're young and can be inconsistent. Your best bet is to put Mobley on Paolo and make Franz do this again. He looked like last year's Franz today. He hasn't looked like that much this year.
JujitsuFlip wrote:That's a terrible plan.Magiclee wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:No he wouldn't devour him. He would be getting pissed with all the dirty stuff Morris would be doing to him.
And no the Cavs wins were not convincing... Winning by 40 is convincing, not whatever the Cavs did.
A pissed off Paolo is the last thing you want. If they're both on, you're toast. There's nothing you can do. You can't guard them both. But they're young and can be inconsistent. Your best bet is to put Mobley on Paolo and make Franz do this again. He looked like last year's Franz today. He hasn't looked like that much this year.
I want Morris on Paolo being cheap and dirty for 6 fouls and i want Mobley on Franz. That will leave Allen free to protect the rim.
I want Suggs to try and beat me and he very well could but if he started getting too hot, I'd put Okoro on him, just need Okoro to take the open shots.
If the Cavs come out on Tuesday with Garland/Mitchell/Strus/Mobley/Allen as their starting 5 and Niang as the only big off the bench, the Cavs will be down 3-2 heading back to Orlando for game 6 on Friday.
Residual-Heat wrote:Message Boar wrote:I voted Cavs in 5, happy to take that L
same here
JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
It's an issue when Mitchell and Garland stink and our shooters can't shoot. Jbbs inability to adjust in game sure sucks too.
I mean we've played the Pacers, the Friday before the playoffs started in a game they wanted badly, and we had no problem scoring. We played the Pacers in March without Mitchell, and had no problem scoring. It's not hard to score against teams who don't have impressive defenses.
We averaged 112 .vs. the Magic in the regular season for all the good that did us. We scored 60 in the first half today and still found a way to not break 100.
Sure smells like good game plan followed by an inability to adjust after Orlando talked things over at the half. Amateur hour on the bench and from the supposed floor leaders.
Well then you can put Morris on Franz to try and irritate him and take him outta his game mentally. Strus can't guard Franz, that is what I know without the shadow of a doubt. Especially when he's called for touch fouls.MagicMatic wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:That's a terrible plan.Magiclee wrote:
A pissed off Paolo is the last thing you want. If they're both on, you're toast. There's nothing you can do. You can't guard them both. But they're young and can be inconsistent. Your best bet is to put Mobley on Paolo and make Franz do this again. He looked like last year's Franz today. He hasn't looked like that much this year.
I want Morris on Paolo being cheap and dirty for 6 fouls and i want Mobley on Franz. That will leave Allen free to protect the rim.
I want Suggs to try and beat me and he very well could but if he started getting too hot, I'd put Okoro on him, just need Okoro to take the open shots.
If the Cavs come out on Tuesday with Garland/Mitchell/Strus/Mobley/Allen as their starting 5 and Niang as the only big off the bench, the Cavs will be down 3-2 heading back to Orlando for game 6 on Friday.
The weird thing is that Paolo and Suggs play passively and blow up when contested. Not sure that would work.
Like Suggs wasn’t playing his usual great defense in this game until the 3rd when he went head to head with Garland. Then the defense held you guys to 10 points in the quarter. The game was over after that.
No it's not, jb can't even win at checkers, guy hasn't made a single adjustment this series loltooler wrote:Cavs fans must be nervous if they’re calling for a Morris goon!
Magic will have to counter with Joe Ingles to talk enough **** to him that he gets ejected.
It’s a chess match.
Well, through 4 games, history is repeating itself.JujitsuFlip wrote:That happened once so long ago it's almost more like a shooting star, just quickly passing in the night.hippesthippo wrote:Exp0sed wrote:i'm not sure Bickerstaff is a real coach with how he's been running things on the court these past two seasons
wouldn't be shocked if this series goes either way in any fashion, but I think this Cavs team is the opposite of synergetic, meaning - it's considerably worse than the sum of it's parts
my pick is Magic in 6
True. Very true.
I just can't shake the image of Donovan Mitchell going supernova in the playoffs.
His history shows he's much more likely to get about 23 ppg on 44.32 eFG% but if he is able to recreate either of his covid restriction years from a scoring and efficiency standpoint then the Magic don't stand a chance.
He's already been ruled out for the entire series.basketballRob wrote:If the Cavs go down 3-2, I think Dean Wade will play.
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It'll probably change if they go down in the series. I don't think they expected the Magic to give them a series. It was easy to say he's out for the series while they were up 2-0.JujitsuFlip wrote:He's already been ruled out for the entire series.basketballRob wrote:If the Cavs go down 3-2, I think Dean Wade will play.
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I would just love to know how he sprained his knee while on paternity leave, mind boggling stuff.
The guy can't run, he's not playing in this series. Ty Jerome has a better shot of playing in this series and he's not played since October 27th.basketballRob wrote:It'll probably change if they go down in the series. I don't think they expected the Magic to give them a series. It was easy to say he's out for the series while they were up 2-0.JujitsuFlip wrote:He's already been ruled out for the entire series.basketballRob wrote:If the Cavs go down 3-2, I think Dean Wade will play.
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I would just love to know how he sprained his knee while on paternity leave, mind boggling stuff.
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Iwasawitness wrote:To be clear, this is still Cleveland’s series to lose. The fact of the matter is, Orlando did not once lead at any point in games one and two. Cleveland can at least say they did at Orlando, hell they had the lead going into the half.
As long as Cleveland’s still got homecourt, there’s no reason to panic.
DowJones wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:To be clear, this is still Cleveland’s series to lose. The fact of the matter is, Orlando did not once lead at any point in games one and two. Cleveland can at least say they did at Orlando, hell they had the lead going into the half.
As long as Cleveland’s still got homecourt, there’s no reason to panic. But with that said, there’s definitely reasons to be very concerned. I’m not even talking in terms of what’s to come next, because I fully expect Cleveland to lose to Boston if they advance. But Mitchell has been pretty bad offensively after the first game where he scored 30. He’s part of the reason as to why we’re losing right now. In my opinion, if this continues, I am still of the belief that he is the one we need to cut ties with, not Garland and sure as hell not Mobley.
Also, I’ve defended Bickerstaff, but this is the second straight playoff series where he’s very clearly getting out coached. It will be third straight if we make it to the second round. And if we somehow make it past Boston, that would be number four. Doesn’t matter how far we make it, the guy needs to go.
If we lose Mitchell, where are we going to get offense? I can see trading Mitchell if he refuses to extend, but that is the only reason to trade him.
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:To be clear, this is still Cleveland’s series to lose. The fact of the matter is, Orlando did not once lead at any point in games one and two. Cleveland can at least say they did at Orlando, hell they had the lead going into the half.
As long as Cleveland’s still got homecourt, there’s no reason to panic.
It’s a completely different game than G1/G2.
Mosley adjusted. Swapped Isaac w/ Carter in the starting lineup.
Also as Keith Smith also mentioned, the Magic have brought their screeners for Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner up close to halfcourt. It's causing the Cavs to defend in a lot of space and Orlando is starting to get downhill off those screens.
Orlando has now found their shooting rhythm.
Chess not checkers. Playoffs are all about the small adjustments and it seems as Mosley is winning in that matchup.
