Jason Kidd - WORST COACH in the League?
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Watching those videos, I'm not blown away. In the first play, the strategy was to direct Mitchell to his right, then have the player guarding the corner shooter assist with Mitchell's drive, allowing the center to cover the 3-point shooter. However, Mitchell ends up taking a mid-range shot with a taller defender in front of him, which is considered one of the least effective shots in basketball. The better option, according to the video, would have been an open 3-pointer, because the center would never be fast enough to close out the 3-pointer.
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kingr wrote:If he didn't lose last night, the Mavs would have won 8 out of their last 10 games. He doesn't seem to be holding the team back THAT much right now. I don't watch the Mavs closely to have a valid opinion though lol.
Rick ran circles around Kidd the other day when Mavs played Pacers. Indiana attacked THJ anytime he was on the floor and Kidd didn't adjust. Pacers basically out-tempoed Mavs and played smart to their advantages, Mavs never adjusted just lazy effort.
Cavs tried to do the same. Once Mavs starting lineup started rolling in the 1st Q, Kidd did his usual annoying sub pattern with only 5 mins into the game and Cavs immediately started attacking THJ with Mitchell because Kidd took out Green and put THJ on Mitchell. Most of those 3s Strus made was because he was guarded by THJ and he wasn't aggressive enough.
It's small things like that which can change the entire course of games specially if it's on repeat. Opposing coaches figured it out, Mavs coaching staff still didn't.
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Archx wrote:kingr wrote:If he didn't lose last night, the Mavs would have won 8 out of their last 10 games. He doesn't seem to be holding the team back THAT much right now. I don't watch the Mavs closely to have a valid opinion though lol.
Rick ran circles around Kidd the other day when Mavs played Pacers. Indiana attacked THJ anytime he was on the floor and Kidd didn't adjust. Pacers basically out-tempoed Mavs and played smart to their advantages, Mavs never adjusted just lazy effort.
Cavs tried to do the same. Once Mavs starting lineup started rolling in the 1st Q, Kidd did his usual annoying sub pattern with only 5 mins into the game and Cavs immediately started attacking THJ with Mitchell because Kidd took out Green and put THJ on Mitchell. Most of those 3s Strus made was because he was guarded by THJ and he wasn't aggressive enough.
It's small things like that which can change the entire course of games specially if it's on repeat. Opposing coaches figured it out, Mavs coaching staff still didn't.
I understand what you're saying. A few things..
Rick is one of the better coaches in the NBA though, so I'm sure he can out coach many coaches.
Also almost every team if not every team has weak links that get put on the floor. THJ was a +10 last night. So if guys are hunting him and the team is still a +10 with him out there, does that make kidd the worst coach in the league for having him out on the floor?
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kingr wrote:THJ was a +10 last night. So if guys are hunting him and the team is still a +10 with him out there, does that make kidd the worst coach in the league for having him out on the floor?
Absolutely yes.
+/- is not an individual stat but it's a combination of lineups/players you're on the floor with at any given time. THJ minutes are usually staggered with Doncic (who was also +13 in a 2pt loss). THJ had some decent plays on defense but that's not why he's suppose to be in the game anyway. Mavs fans want THJ gone, like banished to the shadow realm, dude simply has horrible bball IQ and can't do anything good other than being a spot up shooter.
I obviously over simplified things in my quote to you but i just wanted to kinda point out how terrible Kidd is. He doesn't have offensive set plays, when Luka is off the floor, Kyrie plays 1v5. I could literally write 2 pages here but to anyone who watches Mavs on a regular basis, it's more than clear this guy shouldn't be a head coach. Great at managing personalities but horrible at X and O's.
Speaking about +/- with THJ in and out of the lineup. This will paint a more clear picture for you. These are the stats up to Pacers game.
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At least he's trying. He's thinking of (albeit not great thinking) things to try to win games like the bump where he spilled the cup of ice.
Better than coaches like Nash who don't do anything at all.
Better than coaches like Nash who don't do anything at all.
Kobe Bryant forever
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This "Awful Coaching" guy is very angry.
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Now that Adrian Griffith is out, the answer is yes. If GM's did their homework, Kidd would never be hired to be HC at any level.
Someone mentioned Monty Williams being worse; I don't agree. Monty at least is a respectful, stand up guy.
Kidd, on top of being a stubborn idiot as a coach, is a sociopath with a disturbing history both in and out of the locker room. It boggles my mind that he's still getting HC opportunities.
Someone mentioned Monty Williams being worse; I don't agree. Monty at least is a respectful, stand up guy.
Kidd, on top of being a stubborn idiot as a coach, is a sociopath with a disturbing history both in and out of the locker room. It boggles my mind that he's still getting HC opportunities.
We have Giannis Antetokounmpo and you don't.
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BadWolf wrote:Gafford is takrn advantage of on defense.
If the Mavericks acquired Gafford to have him switch on smaller perimeter defenders frequently, they should have never acquired him. If the Mavericks thought Maxi Kleber was a better option, they should have never given up a first-round pick for Gafford.
Gafford is not an elite defender, but he’s at his best protecting the rim in drop coverage like the Bucks do with Brook Lopez. The vast majority of power forwards and centers in the NBA cannot stay in front of quick guards on the perimeter. Consistently expecting them to do so is a recipe for defensive breakdowns.
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Willie Colon wrote:Now that Adrian Griffith is out, the answer is yes. If GM's did their homework, Kidd would never be hired to be HC at any level.
Someone mentioned Monty Williams being worse; I don't agree. Monty at least is a respectful, stand up guy.
Kidd, on top of being a stubborn idiot as a coach, is a sociopath with a disturbing history both in and out of the locker room. It boggles my mind that he's still getting HC opportunities.
Kidd may be a bad coach but he’s not Billups bad.
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I do not like hating on coaches, cause what do I know, I think they know something, but we have active coach who started Killian Hayes for 31 games this year, played him 24 minutes per game, was opening and closing games with Killian Hayes, and his team went on 29 game losing streak...
Killian Hayes was waived a while ago and he is still a FA. he is 22 years of age, and nobody wants him somehow, so I am just saying. We have seen more unjustifiable blunders this season alone.
Killian Hayes was waived a while ago and he is still a FA. he is 22 years of age, and nobody wants him somehow, so I am just saying. We have seen more unjustifiable blunders this season alone.
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Mavs lost a game on a half court heave. What’s with the overreaction?
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Oscar9992 wrote:Jason Kidd - WORST COACH in the League?
Did Chauncey Billups get fired?
"I don't get timeouts. You're getting paid millions. Go do basketball things."
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fast+forward wrote:Mavs lost a game on a half court heave. What’s with the overreaction?
His player rotations are a problem from what i see
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Worst coach in the league is 100% Chauncey Billups
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Mavrelous wrote:He's a bad coach, mainly offensively, but this game wasn't his fault, sometimes it's just bad luck and bad officiating.
Played Maxi Kieber 27 minutes and Daniel Gafford 7.
Played THJ 26 minutes and Jaden Hardy only 5.
I'm sure part of the logic with Maxi might have been that he could get out and guard the 3 but the Cavs finished 7-7 from 3.
I partially blame Nico for THJ though, he should have gotten rid of him for a candy bar at the TDL taking that toy away from baby Kidd.
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fast+forward wrote:Mavs lost a game on a half court heave. What’s with the overreaction?
Wasted a 45 point game from Luka and 30 from Kyrie. It should have been a blow out if he played Gafford more and Maxi less IMO.
I'm afraid Gafford is not going to have a role with the Mavs going forward already. 7 minutes really? He's a pretty good player. He's an 11 ppg 8 rebounds guy where Maxi is a 5 and 5 guy. They just traded for him it's a joke. Mavs have this weird thing where they try to stay loyal to players who have been there a long time but aren't good: Powell, THJ, Maxi.
Waste of space THJ getting nearly 30 minutes a game is a fireable offense. He does one thing good hit 3s. When he's not doing that he is useless.
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he's average
get a better FO
get a better FO
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Lalouie wrote:he's average
get a better FO
They've completely overhauled the FO in the last two years. Cuban is not even really the owner anymore, Nico is the GM instead of Donnie Nelson. They've completely overhauled the roster in the last 12 months too. Kidd just plays the wrong guys and can't run an offense he needs to go.
Luka needs to say it's him or me, but it's probably not his personality.
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Archx wrote:kingr wrote:THJ was a +10 last night. So if guys are hunting him and the team is still a +10 with him out there, does that make kidd the worst coach in the league for having him out on the floor?
Absolutely yes.
+/- is not an individual stat but it's a combination of lineups/players you're on the floor with at any given time. THJ minutes are usually staggered with Doncic (who was also +13 in a 2pt loss). THJ had some decent plays on defense but that's not why he's suppose to be in the game anyway. Mavs fans want THJ gone, like banished to the shadow realm, dude simply has horrible bball IQ and can't do anything good other than being a spot up shooter.
I obviously over simplified things in my quote to you but i just wanted to kinda point out how terrible Kidd is. He doesn't have offensive set plays, when Luka is off the floor, Kyrie plays 1v5. I could literally write 2 pages here but to anyone who watches Mavs on a regular basis, it's more than clear this guy shouldn't be a head coach. Great at managing personalities but horrible at X and O's.
Speaking about +/- with THJ in and out of the lineup. This will paint a more clear picture for you. These are the stats up to Pacers game.
This is pathetic, and Tim Hardaway Sr. just bashed Luka recently to boot. It's mindblowing he's still on the roster and getting as many minutes as several starters.
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As hesitant as I am to defend Kidd, it was the referees who cost them that game. If that game was reffed fairly it never would have come down to that (same referee who did the Pistons Knicks fiasco the other night, incidentally)