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He didn’t kill the the NBA. Only Lebron is allowed to play with stars while Steph must stay chained to Klay Thompson. Right?

He still has mostly played with stacked teams post-GSW too

Draymond forced him out. Draymond cost the Warriors multiple championships due to suspensions/general clown like behaviour plus forcing KD out of town. Warriors could’ve had 6-7 chips if Dray wasn’t a dumbass.

Johnny Fontane wrote:Dude killed the nba for a few years. Goodness was that painful

Thank you for telling the truth, it was a horrendous period. Thank God The Toronto Raptors returned balance to the force.

LaLover11 wrote:

Onus wrote:

JN61 wrote:Durant isn't going to save Curry from the late career disaster

Curry did save Durant’s career.

Durant saved Curry from losing to Kyrie and LeBron
2016 Cavs Win without Durant
2017 Cavs Win without Durant
2018 Cavs Win without Durant

Maybe warriors get a superstar trade in 2019 to try beating the Dynasty Kyrie/LeBron Cavs

Curry would've only had 1 ring without Durant
The recent warriors championship only happened because of trades that came from Durant lol

Curry and Warriors would've been Butler Heat reaching the finals and losing Everytime to the better team in the Finals

Gee, lucky we managed our cap well by signing Curry before he got healthy and exploded, and planned for the inevitable cap spike

Onus wrote:

LaLover11 wrote:

Onus wrote:Curry did save Durant’s career.

Durant saved Curry from losing to Kyrie and LeBron
2016 Cavs Win without Durant
2017 Cavs Win without Durant
2018 Cavs Win without Durant

Maybe warriors get a superstar trade in 2019 to try beating the Dynasty Kyrie/LeBron Cavs

Curry would've only had 1 ring without Durant
The recent warriors championship only happened because of trades that came from Durant lol

Curry and Warriors would've been Butler Heat reaching the finals and losing Everytime to the better team in the Finals

In 2016 when both teams were healthy the warriors were up 3-1. Then the nba decided to extend the series by suspending Draymond and Bogut and iguodala both got hurt in that game. But sure you can think whatever you want.

The nba won 2016 for Lebron

It's not the refs fault that the NBA has rules against going around kicking your opponents in the dick. I'm generally a Draymond fan, but it was Draymond's fault he got suspended. Don't wanna get suspended don't do s*** that's suspendible.

Kevin Durant on Golden State was meant to be but he broke it. I believe KD will forever regret not staying in Golden State. Golden State needed KD hustbss much as he needed them.

I've said it over and over, but imagine being a young man entering the league, you purchase a house in Seattle, then told you're having to move to OKC (what?), and once you're a free agent, you get bashed for taking advantage of it.


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Jerry Maine wrote:

LaLover11 wrote:

Onus wrote:Curry did save Durant’s career.

Durant saved Curry from losing to Kyrie and LeBron
2016 Cavs Win without Durant
2017 Cavs Win without Durant
2018 Cavs Win without Durant

Maybe warriors get a superstar trade in 2019 to try beating the Dynasty Kyrie/LeBron Cavs

Curry would've only had 1 ring without Durant
The recent warriors championship only happened because of trades that came from Durant lol

Curry and Warriors would've been Butler Heat reaching the finals and losing Everytime to the better team in the Finals

Gee, lucky we managed our cap well by signing Curry before he got healthy and exploded, and planned for the inevitable cap spike

I mean that isn't exactly something you can plan for happening without a great deal of luck...and I say this as an Avs fan whose team similarly benefitted from locking its most expensive player (MacKinnon) in before he fully exploded and led us to win one of the most dominant titles in the sport's history.

So I have no jealousy...the knicks sucked too much for me to do anything but enjoy the dynasty warriors...or outrage, but we both got lucky that we were able to win a ring with MacK & Steph both so cheap.

Luck definitely part of it, had Steph not had ankle issues he would have demanded more, but Dubs mgmt kept the faith, took the risk and paid him what his market value was at the time. They could have traded him for Bogut instead of Monta

HMFFL wrote:Kevin Durant on Golden State was meant to be but he broke it. I believe KD will forever regret not staying in Golden State. Golden State needed KD hustbss much as he needed them.

I've said it over and over, but imagine being a young man entering the league, you purchase a house in Seattle, then told you're having to move to OKC (what?), and once you're a free agent, you get bashed for taking advantage of it.


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I regret it because of how fun they were to watch, but I dunno that KD will or does. He didn't seem to enjoy his last season there very much and I don't think it would've changed his legacy for the foreseeable future if he had grabbed another 2-3 rings & finals MVPs with that team. It didn't matter that he was the best player on that team and the one that lead them in the finals, too many people weren't going to give him credit.

His career arc is so embarrassing post GSW i don't even want to talk about KD anymore.

Warriors probably told him he has no heart and that's why he left to infect other teams.

cgf wrote:

Onus wrote:

LaLover11 wrote:
Durant saved Curry from losing to Kyrie and LeBron
2016 Cavs Win without Durant
2017 Cavs Win without Durant
2018 Cavs Win without Durant

Maybe warriors get a superstar trade in 2019 to try beating the Dynasty Kyrie/LeBron Cavs

Curry would've only had 1 ring without Durant
The recent warriors championship only happened because of trades that came from Durant lol

Curry and Warriors would've been Butler Heat reaching the finals and losing Everytime to the better team in the Finals

In 2016 when both teams were healthy the warriors were up 3-1. Then the nba decided to extend the series by suspending Draymond and Bogut and iguodala both got hurt in that game. But sure you can think whatever you want.

The nba won 2016 for Lebron

It's not the refs fault that the NBA has rules against going around kicking your opponents in the dick. I'm generally a Draymond fan, but it was Draymond's fault he got suspended. Don't wanna get suspended don't do s*** that's suspendible.

Assessing a tech after the game is over is why he got suspended. The refs in the actual game thought nothing of it

Klay also sat out like 2 seasons following the loss to Toronto while KD sat out basically 1 & a half seasons so we really don't know if GSW would have won another one even had KD stayed post injury.

I think KD just got tired of being on a super team like GSW and wanted to get away from the pressure of winning a title every year. He's kind of also had the worst luck being paired with some unreliable stars like Harden or Kyrie who created drama every year and weren't serious about winning.

People forget that KD is already 35 and at an age where a lot of star players are either out of the league or an a serious decline. He's still a good player but the days where he could put a team on his back are long past.

Just circumstances and injuries.

I truly believe nets win nba title if they has healthy lyric in 2021. Injured Harden was just icing on the cake

In the nba ur window to win shrinks plus u need some luck on ur side.

I don’t think golden state wins in 2022 without luck either. Phoenix collapsing vs Dallas in round 2 plus facing inexperienced boston jump shooting team in finals.

Jerry Maine wrote:Luck definitely part of it, had Steph not had ankle issues he would have demanded more, but Dubs mgmt kept the faith, took the risk and paid him what his market value was at the time. They could have traded him for Bogut instead of Monta

For sure, it's not just luck, which is why I brought up MacK. The Avs signed him early to a longterm deal that they got made fun of for, until he exploded, because they believed in him despite the slow start to his career and they decided to take a calculated risk...but we were still lucky to even be in the position to take that calculated risk.

Most NHL #1 picks that end up monsters start to be great pretty early...by the end of year 3 they are expected to already be high level players if they're going to end up superstars...but MacK didn't even move to his proper position until his 3rd season, and despite going on a tear in the 2nd half of his rookie year; he didn't have another impressive season until his Draft+5 campaign.

So it takes a combination of luck, talent evaluation, and courage to end up with a Steph or MacK type bargain.

Onus wrote:

cgf wrote:

Onus wrote:In 2016 when both teams were healthy the warriors were up 3-1. Then the nba decided to extend the series by suspending Draymond and Bogut and iguodala both got hurt in that game. But sure you can think whatever you want.

The nba won 2016 for Lebron

It's not the refs fault that the NBA has rules against going around kicking your opponents in the dick. I'm generally a Draymond fan, but it was Draymond's fault he got suspended. Don't wanna get suspended don't do s*** that's suspendible.

Assessing a tech after the game is over is why he got suspended. The refs in the actual game thought nothing of it

I should've been clearer and written "the officials" because when I wrote "the refs" I meant it to refer to the league as a whole, not just the refs that officiated that game.

That's my b.

garrick wrote:Klay also sat out like 2 seasons following the loss to Toronto while KD sat out basically 1 & a half seasons so we really don't know if GSW would have won another one even had KD stayed post injury.

I mean, we do know that GSW would have won another one had KD stayed, because GSW *did* win another one after KD left, in 2022.

The only 'KD superteam' that did anything of importance was the one that had won a chamionship with their roster both before he joined and after he left.

Onus wrote:

JN61 wrote:Durant isn't going to save Curry from the late career disaster

Curry did save Durant’s career.

Right. Those two daggers Curry hit over LeBron are what did it....

Parataxis wrote:

garrick wrote:Klay also sat out like 2 seasons following the loss to Toronto while KD sat out basically 1 & a half seasons so we really don't know if GSW would have won another one even had KD stayed post injury.

I mean, we do know that GSW would have won another one had KD stayed, because GSW *did* win another one after KD left, in 2022.

The only 'KD superteam' that did anything of importance was the one that had won a chamionship with their roster both before he joined and after he left.

Like the butterfly effect we really don't know if that team wins in 2022 or not, does GSW still get Wiggins who had his best season ever and does Poole play out of his mind in 2022 if KD is still on that team?