Is Chet Holmgren better than Evan Mobley?
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Mobley is better defensively, but given that he has more experience, that may not last. He’s also a better rebounder, especially considering who he plays with compared to Chet.
Chet’s an entirely different class of offensive player, though. Some on ball creation which should improve further, a better shot and better range.
I’d take Chet slightly right now, and more than slightly for the future, with the caveat that Mobley is just slightly thin and Chet is a toothpick. There’s a bigger injury risk there.
Put it this way — Cleveland would be all over that exchange, and OKC would have no interest at all.
Chet’s an entirely different class of offensive player, though. Some on ball creation which should improve further, a better shot and better range.
I’d take Chet slightly right now, and more than slightly for the future, with the caveat that Mobley is just slightly thin and Chet is a toothpick. There’s a bigger injury risk there.
Put it this way — Cleveland would be all over that exchange, and OKC would have no interest at all.
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Mobley hasn't improved but there's no guarantee Chet will either
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Mobley's progress over the past few years is only slow if you look at the headline numbers. His scoring, rebounding, assists, steals, FG%, 3PFG%, FT%, TS% have all made good progress year-over-year. But because he was injured a few times, his minute restrictions causes his totals to drop slightly. He's made some progress on his shooting to the point where his percentages were good but the volume needs to take some steps to be "real".
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Chet by far. I believe Mobley is on the wrong team tbh. He needs to be on a team where he's the main guy center wise. Just like Chet is.
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Plutonashfan wrote:God Squad wrote:Mobley's lack of development is concerning, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.
I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.
Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up
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Why is this even a question? Are there people that have doubts about this?
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lol 100% - mobley is the same player he was when he was drafted and Chet is already better
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Mobley is better defensively, but Chet is so much better offensively to the point where Mobley doesn't really have an argument over him, despite Chet still technically being a rookie.
But what really gets me is that despite the fact that Chet is much skinnier and more fragile looking than Chet, it still feels like Chet plays a more physical style. Chet also feels much more in tune and control over his mechanics. I never feel like he's stumbling around or anything when he's got the ball. When Mobley has it I'm legitimately worried he's going to lose it.
I don't really know who will be the better player going forward. I still believe (not that I want it to come to fruition) that unless Chet seriously bulks up over the next few years, he is going to suffer from a multitude of health problems from trying to play in the NBA at the rate that he does. We've already seen a bit of that with Evan so far in his NBA career and I'm hoping that it improves.
Let's stop with this horrible take already. I've seen so many people say it and I don't understand why. It simply isn't true.
But what really gets me is that despite the fact that Chet is much skinnier and more fragile looking than Chet, it still feels like Chet plays a more physical style. Chet also feels much more in tune and control over his mechanics. I never feel like he's stumbling around or anything when he's got the ball. When Mobley has it I'm legitimately worried he's going to lose it.
I don't really know who will be the better player going forward. I still believe (not that I want it to come to fruition) that unless Chet seriously bulks up over the next few years, he is going to suffer from a multitude of health problems from trying to play in the NBA at the rate that he does. We've already seen a bit of that with Evan so far in his NBA career and I'm hoping that it improves.
liquidswords wrote:lol 100% - mobley is the same player he was when he was drafted and Chet is already better
Let's stop with this horrible take already. I've seen so many people say it and I don't understand why. It simply isn't true.
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Well this is pretty unanimous. As it should be considering Chet is borderline all-NBA as a rookie and Mobley is borderline looking like he should come off the bench in Year 3.
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I'd take Chet over Mobley every day of the week and twice on Sundays. He has already had similar defensive impact while flashing way more of a higher ceiling on offense
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Niko23 wrote:Plutonashfan wrote:God Squad wrote:Mobley's lack of development is concerning, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.
I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.
Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up
It's not only him look at DG and Okoro they all regressed.
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wow never expected to see those votes. I don't think I would do a Chet/Mobley swap right now but I still like Mobley's chances to become the better player. Mobley would have a bigger impact if he was Thunder Center...his lack of shooting is the issue though
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Shock Defeat wrote:Mobley hasn't improved but there's no guarantee Chet will either
So Chet is better now and in the future.
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Plutonashfan wrote:Niko23 wrote:Plutonashfan wrote:I blame it on our terrible coaching staff.
Its probably why JB is gone, regardless if we sneak out of the first round because we will get swept by Boston. Mobley has no strength and plays scared. Really sad that we screwed him up
It's not only him look at DG and Okoro they all regressed.
Okoro regressed? Okoro.
I don't think you know what kind of player Okoro was just a few years ago.
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I remember not long ago Mobley was regarded a generational defender a la Tim Duncan
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omerome wrote:Chet and it isn't close.
Mobley came into the league and was supposed to be a Duncan'esque player and the only thing they really have in common is they're both tall.
I dont know when Mobley lost his mojo but he is not the same player anymore. Both Barnes and Sengun have sprinted ahead of him and both of them were drafted after Mobley
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omerome wrote:Chet and it isn't close.
Mobley came into the league and was supposed to be a Duncan'esque player and the only thing they really have in common is they're both tall.
I think if Mobley was drafted by Raptors, he would have been much better player today. Masai tried his best to trade up and get Mobley on draft night.
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Alot of the Cavs best lineups this season were with Wade instead of Mobley. They played better with Wade and w/o Mobley at the 4.
Mobley might be the better defender for now but Chet is already miles ahead offensively and there is no indication Mobley will be or ever had the offensive skillset to be much better than he is now while Chet still has plenty to grow. This isnt close Chet has white Ad potential Mobley best case scenario if everything works right is Bam lol
Mobley might be the better defender for now but Chet is already miles ahead offensively and there is no indication Mobley will be or ever had the offensive skillset to be much better than he is now while Chet still has plenty to grow. This isnt close Chet has white Ad potential Mobley best case scenario if everything works right is Bam lol
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GSP wrote:Alot of the Cavs best lineups this season were with Wade instead of Mobley. They played better with Wade and w/o Mobley at the 4.
Mobley might be the better defender for now but Chet is already miles ahead offensively and there is no indication Mobley will be or ever had the offensive skillset to be much better than he is now while Chet still has plenty to grow. This isnt close Chet has white Ad potential Mobley best case scenario if everything works right is Bam lol
Mobley averaged 15.7ppg (fourth highest scorer) and Chet averaged 16.5ppg (third highest scorer).
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