TWolves fans, redraft in 2020, KG or Anthony Edwards?

[rapstarter]

I already know what KG did, and as great as it was, it didn't win us anything.

but that wasn't the 2020 Minnesota franchise he was drafted into.

[Fadeaway_Jumper]

KG never played with the defensive player of the year, and sixth man of the year. He was the primary scorer, facilitator and playmaker on that Wolves team as the offensive ran through him. He also won defensive player of the year

Garnett had far more responsibility and importance to the wolves when he played

[dhsilv2]

Ant

KG was never a #1 option on a championship team. People forget Pierce was the #1 on Boston championship team. Even then they only managed to win 1 championship with that big 3.

Antman is clearly going to be a #1 and the Wolves will be in the mix for a championship sooner than later.

People forget KG was the number 1 option on Boston. Some people took the finals where Pierce won finals MVP and have incorrectly re-written history. KG lead the team in field goals attempts in the playoffs and in the 4th quarter, not Pierce. The offense went first to KG in the post.

[dhsilv2]

Social media didn't make him throw a chair in a temper tantrum.

I just wonder what we'd see in the lockerroom with cameras. KG was hardly a calm and cool guy. He played and acted on passion.

There's a difference between that and hitting bystanders with chairs. You wouldn't accept that behavior from a 9 year old, let alone a grown ass man.

I agree and I am saying in that era, such things might not get reported.

[Tomtolbert]

Ant

KG was never a #1 option on a championship team. People forget Pierce was the #1 on Boston championship team. Even then they only managed to win 1 championship with that big 3.

At best, Pierce was the top scoring option on that Celtics team, and even that's arguable. Overall, he wasn't close to KG as their best player.

[KnixtapeH20]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

[ChipotleWest]

I already know what KG did, and as great as it was, it didn't win us anything.

He never had close to a team like you got right now.

[dygaction]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

[Effigy]

Many people believe that Ant man is the 2nd best in the franchise history now at 22.

If time transport back to 2020, you have Ant Man and 19 year old KG in the draft, you are the GM back from today knowing their capabilities, who do you pick as #1?

But DO we know their capabilities? We saw KG's whole career, but Ant is 22. Seems a bit early to say we know his capabilities.

I'll take Ant though. KG was never an ideal number one option, and I think Ant is.

[KnixtapeH20]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

Just preface the thread with you didn't watch KG play then everyone would understand where you're coming from... you love Anthony Edwards great. He hasn't proven anything yet. KG is a HOFer and I'm a die hard Knicks fan. It's not even remotely comparable right now

[dygaction]

Many people believe that Ant man is the 2nd best in the franchise history now at 22.

If time transport back to 2020, you have Ant Man and 19 year old KG in the draft, you are the GM back from today knowing their capabilities, who do you pick as #1?

But DO we know their capabilities? We saw KG's whole career, but Ant is 22. Seems a bit early to say we know his capabilities.

I'll take Ant though. KG was never an ideal number one option, and I think Ant is.

Ture, but if Ant career is fully displayed, the result can be clear either way and we may not need to ask this question.

[AbeVigodaLive]

If they played together Ant would be the alpha and KG the barky #2 who would much rather defend the last shot than take it, if that helps.

Yeah.

They would complement each other so well.

[dhsilv2]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

Luka is at least 2 years old with a much more proven resume and with impact stats that back up the hysteria. Edward's impact stats this year made him a questionable all nba guy at best. They're not the same thing.

Not that I have a problem with the topic and dreaming of how good Edwards can become, but Luka is that guy already. Edwards isn't that guy yet.

[Worm Guts]

I already know what KG did, and as great as it was, it didn't win us anything.

He never had close to a team like you got right now.

I’m not saying Ant is better, just that his story is unwritten. It has a chance to better.

[Doctor MJ]

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

KG's primary value is his defense.

That would be like comparing Kobe to Duncan and saying Kobe is better cause he scores more.

Except KG was not as good as Duncan and defense just does not carry the same weight as offense in current nba. Rudy Gobert, this season's DPoY and 4x total, can become unplayable depending on matchups.

Edwards is certainly just not scoring more, he is scroing 29.8ppg on 51/40/83 shooting or .633TS% over 19 career playoff games, with 24.8PER and 8.5BPM. In addition, his defense 1.5s/1.3b as a guard is elite.

Re: KG not as good as Duncan. In your opinion, not everyone's. I would consider KG to be the more capable defender as well as more capable shooter and passer. Duncan by contrast was better at volume post scoring.

Re: Gobert. Slower, dumber, and mentally weaker than KG while also being far worse on offense.

But you're certainly right that we'd expect that it's possible for top offense to top top defense in today's game and maybe that will end up with Ant getting the nod over KG as the better all around player for today's game. In which case he'd also be better than Duncan and Kobe in my assessment.

[dygaction]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

Just preface the thread with you didn't watch KG play then everyone would understand where you're coming from... you love Anthony Edwards great. He hasn't proven anything yet. KG is a HOFer and I'm a die hard Knicks fan. It's not even remotely comparable right now

There are so many things involved in the comparison. First for the organization, KG won two playoff series in 12 years as a TWolve, the same as Edwards. Depending how emotionally you invested in KG and how much sympathy you put on the roster. Second, Edwards was the #1 pick of 2020 and still will be if repick now. He has 7 out of the top 10 playoff high scoring wise already. KG's weakness was the scroing load and efficiency, and Edwards truely excel in that.

[dygaction]

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these threads are so dumb... it's so knee jerk for what purpose?

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

Luka is at least 2 years old with a much more proven resume and with impact stats that back up the hysteria. Edward's impact stats this year made him a questionable all nba guy at best. They're not the same thing.

Not that I have a problem with the topic and dreaming of how good Edwards can become, but Luka is that guy already. Edwards isn't that guy yet.

Lots of people, including Jerry West, said Luka "will be the best player Dallas has ever had". It takes the projection vision that makes us RealGM right?

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/1/5/21050736/luka-doncic-jerry-west-best-dallas-maverick-player-ever-dirk-nowitzki

[One_and_Done]

KG would likely be the best player in the league, better than Jokic, so him.

[dhsilv2]

You can be smart enough to engage in a converstation. There are plenty of threads with similar comparison for Luka and Dirk. Those are intriguing questions if you have the ability to think.

Luka is at least 2 years old with a much more proven resume and with impact stats that back up the hysteria. Edward's impact stats this year made him a questionable all nba guy at best. They're not the same thing.

Not that I have a problem with the topic and dreaming of how good Edwards can become, but Luka is that guy already. Edwards isn't that guy yet.

Lots of people, including Jerry West, said Luka "will be the best player Dallas has ever had". It takes the projection vision that makes us RealGM right?

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/1/5/21050736/luka-doncic-jerry-west-best-dallas-maverick-player-ever-dirk-nowitzki

To be fair...I thought from the first time I saw Luka he was going to be an all time great. I'm still not sold on ANT. ANT still has to learn playmaking for example. He's awesome athletically and scores well...but to become a high impact and consistently high impact offensive player he's got a lot of work. Even his defense which might be better on paper...I'm not sure he's really having the impact to move him to the Luka level as a rookie even.

[Frank Dux]

I already know what KG did, and as great as it was, it didn't win us anything.

Part of the problem is that the Wolves FO didn’t give KG anywhere near the talent Ant currently plays with.