Denis Rodman - best rebounder of all time?

[Vega]

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Actually, I am sure Howard and prime KG can average close 30 rebounds per game in Wilt's era.

Why would they average more than Wilt? Because they're shorter, have smaller wingspans, and are less athletic? Or is it because they play 14 fewer minutes per game?

[Showtime:Part2]

someone post a youtube clip. i dont want to read all this crap to judge rodman.

[MagicFan3]

He's definitely the best modern-day rebounder, no arguments there. It's hard to know if he is better than Wilt/Russell.

[xstockholmsyndromex]

He is top 3 easy. There are real arguments for Wilt and Russell. I hated Rodman, but I was impressed at his ability to rebound the ball

[treis]

3. Wilt once grabbed 55 rebs in a game, AGAINST BILL RUSSELL!

The team that grabs the most rebounds per game this year is the Denver Nuggets is 45.3. In order for someone to match that feat in the modern NBA, the team would have to get 20% more rebounds than they average, and one player would have to grab every single one of them.

You can make an argument about Rodman being able to devote all of his energy to rebounding, but there's no way to argue that Rodman wasn't statistically the best rebounder the game has ever seen. I tend to discount the usage argument. Rodman didn't touch the ball that often, but he was active on offense setting screens and such. I don't see how he saves that much energy over post moves and the like. Besides, everyone who's played basketball knows that almost all of your energy is lost in rebounding, defense, and running the floor. Rodman did all of these things like a maniac.

[Tommy Trojan]

I remember Radman would get rebounds under the basket, but won't take it back up

[ilikecb4]

1. Rodman
2. KG
3. Russel
4. Wilt
5. Ben Wallace

Russel and WIlt played in the Era of midgets..

[ilikecb4]

1. Rodman
2. KG
3. Russel
4. Wilt
5. Ben Wallace

Russel and WIlt played in the Era of midgets..

[ilikecb4]

1. Rodman
2. KG
3. Russel
4. Wilt
5. Ben Wallace

Russel and WIlt played in the Era of midgets..

[MagicNolesFSU]

one time is good.

Also KG is not in the top 5 fcor rebounding.

Rodman is the best ever

Followed by Dwight Howard.

You cant compare era's because the game is played alot differently.

[BruceO]

Either way his ability to rebound which was ridiculously good, while being able to defend all sorts of players including magic, jordan, shaq, malone and other potential hall of famers is such a useful asset. He's the only one I think can defend lebron one on one. He improved alot of teams he played on. When you look at jordans team when it had rodman and pippen you had two or atleast three if you include jordan good man to man defenders. I think buying your superstar the luxury of not having to defend the others teams best offensive threat greatly improves the team.
Physically and skill I wonder which player comes close to his ability and whether or not they've had a great impact on their team. Either way it's a shame the combination of politics and embarassment he caused the league might cost him the hall of fam

[Egg Nog]

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thats amazing
avg over 22 rebounds for your career

Impressive, but keep in mind that the rules were nothing like what they were today. Many players averaged over 30 points per game and many averaged over 20 rebounds per game in a given season.

[NO-KG-AI]

1. Rodman
2. KG
3. Russel
4. Wilt
5. Ben Wallace

Russel and WIlt played in the Era of midgets..

LOL, even I'm not that dense about KG.

[NO-KG-AI]

one time is good.

Also KG is not in the top 5 fcor rebounding.

Rodman is the best ever

Followed by Dwight Howard.

You cant compare era's because the game is played alot differently.

Yeah, Dwight Howard has never led in rebounds per game for an entire year, and now he's the second best rebounder of all time

[tsherkin]

Rodman is the best specialist rebounder in league history, no question.

But I don't think it is fair to compare him to Wilt or Bill.

Rodman posted higher per-minute rebounding numbers than those guys (it's worth mentioning that Wilt was generally playing 40+ minutes a night, up to and including over 48 mpg one season)...

But the usage argument is not to be discounted.... Rodman cheated off of his defensive checks to stay in rebounding position and didn't have to really worry too much about offensive involvement, it was a lot easier for him to rebound because of how he was used. His lack of responsibility in other areas gave him more energy to chase the ball, I mean, it's pretty straightforward.

He is unquestionably the most prolific rebounder in the NBA SINCE Wilt and Bill Russell but one has to be mindful of all the stuff that he didn't do on a basketball court that let him be that way.

I don't think it's fair to say Rodman is the best rebounder of all-time, I think it's pretty much Wilt or Russ, period.

Rodman was EXCELLENT and posted the best rebound rates and per-minute rebounding averages that are recorded and not estimated but he was too stylistically different to be legitimately considered the best because all he did was rebound and defend... even Russell was a high-post passing hub and occasionally a scorer.

[Doctor MJ]

Will we ever see anyone even come close to Rodman in his prime? I personally dont think so. He was an absolute beast in the paint. If so, then who?

Well what I'll say: Even if we get somebody with more rebounding ability than Rodman, he won't surpass Rodman's rebounding totals unless he sucks so bad in the rest of his game that it makes sense have him abandon it to focus on rebounding.

To me it's debatable whether someone like Barkley could have gotten similar numbers if it weren't for the fact that he was one of the best scorers of all time and had to "compromise" his rebounding game accordingly.

[jeahwe]

Was Steve Kerr great 3pts shooter?
No, because he focused only on one aspect of game.
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Do you all now see how silly argument it is?

Despite that Rodman wasn't focused only on one aspect of game. He was GREAT defender (two time in a row DPOTY, multiple all defensive teams) , and even one time lead league in FG%.

Sure, he wasn't overall as good player as Russell or Chamberlain, but in reboudnig he was the best.

[Doctor MJ]

Was Steve Kerr great 3pts shooter?
No, because he focused only on one aspect of game.
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Do you all now see how silly argument it is?

Despite that Rodman wasn't focused only on one aspect of game. He was GREAT defender (two time in a row DPOTY, multiple all defensive teams) , and even one time lead league in FG%.

Sure, he wasn't overall as good player as Russell or Chamberlain, but in reboudnig he was the best.

Are you serious? Saying Kerr's the best 3pt shooter is even more flawed. It's way harder to shoot 3's at a high percentage when people cover you than when you're left open.

[KJ7]

Sorry to get OT, but IIRC Kerr's insane 3pt %'s only came in the seasons where the 3pt line was moved forward. IIRC he only shot around 40% all other seasons, so he's not even close to being the best 3pt shooter.

I tend to agree with Doc MJ. I think if you told someone like Barkley or KG "all you have to do is rebound" they would be absolute monsters on the boards. You could already see a hunger and desire to go after boards, imagine if that's *all* they did. Both spent/d a fair share of time operating higher up offensively. If they were constantly positioned down low and someone else was chucking up shots it's not hard to imagine Barkley in particular matching Rodman's rebounding stats. He had possibly the best positional sense I've ever seen in terms of knowing where a rebound would land.

[jeahwe]

Kerr is only a example.
Let's see another if you don't get the point after this one.

Manute Bol or Mark Eaton. Were they great shoot blockers?
Answer is simple and that they do nothing (or very little, for sure less than Rodman) in other aspects of game don't negate that, they were great shoot blockers.