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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Their GM should be fired.GSP wrote:Beal is making 50mill next season and has a no trade clause
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Mr Puddles wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:Mr Puddles wrote:
Even if the swaps convert (they may or may not) that doesn't mean that the Suns don't have a first round pick.
There's kind of a big difference between "you don't have a first round pick for the next 6 years" and "you've got 3 first round picks in the next 6 years, including one in two months - and the other first picks could potentially be lower".
But it heavily hurts your ability to rebuild properly. Just go ask the Nets.
By the time the Suns actually rebuild and get bad, you would guess the Wizards will be on their way up. I would guess that Wizards get at least few of those swaps from the Suns in 2028 and 2030 but who knows.
Ofcourse, it still hurts but there's still a big difference between you don't have a first pick and you actually have 4 first round picks.
Tor_Raps wrote:AmIWrongDude wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:
And lebrons lasting legacy will be he ring whore'd and still couldn't come close to Jordan lol.
LeBron is at worst the second best player of all time (really is the GOAT tho) so nobody has to worry about his legacy. KD doesn’t belong in the same breath as Bron and that’s not a hot take.
Sounds like LeBronto did a number on u lol
Nah... just a Jordan Stan lol.
Tor_Raps wrote:Mr Puddles wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:
But it heavily hurts your ability to rebuild properly. Just go ask the Nets.
By the time the Suns actually rebuild and get bad, you would guess the Wizards will be on their way up. I would guess that Wizards get at least few of those swaps from the Suns in 2028 and 2030 but who knows.
Ofcourse, it still hurts but there's still a big difference between you don't have a first pick and you actually have 4 first round picks.
People also mean that in the sense that you can't trade any of those picks either. The Suns literally have 0 assets and no path for improvement to go from a team that got swept to becoming a champion.
On this night, Suns players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced and out of character in their eyes. It continued at the next day’s shootaround in Los Angeles, Vogel tearing into the Suns before that night’s road win over the Clippers. Vogel’s eruption left players rolling their eyes, sources briefed on the matter told The Athletic. One player even told The Athletic he had to keep from laughing.
Meanwhile, Durant, among the best scorers in NBA history, was not always happy with how he was used. Sources briefed on the matter told The Athletic that Durant never felt comfortable with his role in Phoenix’s offense alongside Booker and Beal this season. Those sources said Durant had persistent issues with the offense, feeling that he was being relegated to the corner far too often and not having the proper designs to play to his strengths as the offense was built around pick-and-rolls. At the same time, some teammates and people close to the organization believed Durant needed to voice his concerns more adamantly and directly with Vogel and his coaching staff.
But the buck stops at the head coach, and for the second offseason in a row, sources briefed on the situation told The Athletic that Phoenix will take a hard look at making a full coaching change or, at the very least, discuss adjustments to Vogel’s staff. General manager James Jones, however, is expected to continue overseeing team-building for the Suns, those sources said.
zshawn10 wrote:Oof this piece from shams:
On this night, Suns players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced and out of character in their eyes. It continued at the next day’s shootaround in Los Angeles, Vogel tearing into the Suns before that night’s road win over the Clippers. Vogel’s eruption left players rolling their eyes, sources briefed on the matter told The Athletic. One player even told The Athletic he had to keep from laughing.
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Crazy unpredictable outcome.zshawn10 wrote:Regular season: Suns sweep the Timberwolves with a 16 point margin of victory per game, including a 19-point win in Minnesota just two weeks ago.
Postseason: Timberwolves sweep Suns, with an average margin of victory of 15 points per game.
AmIWrongDude wrote:I only caught the last 7 minutes or so of the game but from what I saw I couldn’t even tell KD was on the floor. I don’t like Book but at least it seemed like he was trying not to get swept. KD seemed checked out.
MagicMamba88 wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Oof this piece from shams:
On this night, Suns players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced and out of character in their eyes. It continued at the next day’s shootaround in Los Angeles, Vogel tearing into the Suns before that night’s road win over the Clippers. Vogel’s eruption left players rolling their eyes, sources briefed on the matter told The Athletic. One player even told The Athletic he had to keep from laughing.
Meanwhile, Durant, among the best scorers in NBA history, was not always happy with how he was used. Sources briefed on the matter told The Athletic that Durant never felt comfortable with his role in Phoenix’s offense alongside Booker and Beal this season. Those sources said Durant had persistent issues with the offense, feeling that he was being relegated to the corner far too often and not having the proper designs to play to his strengths as the offense was built around pick-and-rolls. At the same time, some teammates and people close to the organization believed Durant needed to voice his concerns more adamantly and directly with Vogel and his coaching staff.
But the buck stops at the head coach, and for the second offseason in a row, sources briefed on the situation told The Athletic that Phoenix will take a hard look at making a full coaching change or, at the very least, discuss adjustments to Vogel’s staff. General manager James Jones, however, is expected to continue overseeing team-building for the Suns, those sources said.
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cpower wrote:nzahir wrote:KDs lasting legacy is he joined a 73 win team to stop Lebron from getting 6 titles basically
thats a big harsh and Lebron is not getting 6 titles, in fact he would be lucky to win 2 titles in that run. If KD never joined warriors then it would not have been this universe and warriors would still be the favorite to win in 16.
jym85 wrote:I don't even get how you can turn a Finals level team + 6 years of future assets into a team that looks this bad
Calinks wrote: