Jokic is NOT him

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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#301 » by WentzerWuver » Wed May 15, 2024 5:44 pm

LaLover11 wrote:
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michaelm wrote:So either you were trolling or you were trolling.


He's yet another **** tier poster who should be ignored.
AD played Jokic a million times better and that's facts. Stop crying about my posts


More like 25x better than a million but Lakers fans tend to over exaggerate.

We already know thaf Jokers closest followers and fans recently said that Jokic is not HIM but Lakers fans would NEVER say that AD is not him. Dlo and Westy are another matter tho Lol
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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#302 » by DuallyNoted » Wed May 15, 2024 6:07 pm

I agree that he is not some meaningless buzzword.
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Post#303 » by hardenASG13 » Mon May 20, 2024 5:28 pm

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This is his first real adversity though. Lebron balled in many playoffs before that, against rosters better than his. This is Jokics first taste (even though Denver had homecourt and was the favorites here), and he's crumbling.


So, how is Jokic handling his "first real adversity" so far? Still crumbling?


:lol:


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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#304 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 20, 2024 5:49 pm

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So, how is Jokic handling his "first real adversity" so far? Still crumbling?


:lol:


:lol:


Today I learned 34/19/7 is considered crumbling :lol:

I'd look at the supporting cast performance in a closeout game 7...

Crumbling would be 15/8 on 28% shooting in a game 7 like someone last year...or 9/7 on 28% like last year in a game 7...
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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#305 » by AleksandarN » Mon May 20, 2024 5:55 pm

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:lol:


:lol:


Today I learned 34/19/7 is considered crumbling :lol:

I'd look at the supporting cast performance in a closeout game 7...

Crumbling would be 15/8 on 28% shooting in a game 7 like someone last year...or 9/7 on 28% like last year in a game 7...

Jokic had 14 points in the fourth being dead as tired. He played up to being the best player in the nba standards. The first two games not as much. I am proud he laid it all out last night. He was spent
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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#306 » by hardenASG13 » Mon May 20, 2024 6:08 pm

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:lol:


:lol:


Today I learned 34/19/7 is considered crumbling :lol:

I'd look at the supporting cast performance in a closeout game 7...

Crumbling would be 15/8 on 28% shooting in a game 7 like someone last year...or 9/7 on 28% like last year in a game 7...


Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.
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Post#307 » by tsherkin » Mon May 20, 2024 6:11 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.
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Post#308 » by DonaldSanders » Mon May 20, 2024 6:16 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.



Yep, 21 points in the 2nd half from Jokic. He did his part, coulda shot a little better but it really just came down to his teammates missing a lot of open looks.
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Post#309 » by tsherkin » Mon May 20, 2024 6:21 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.



Yep, 21 points in the 2nd half from Jokic. He did his part, coulda shot a little better but it really just came down to his teammates missing a lot of open looks.


He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.
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Post#310 » by dhsilv2 » Mon May 20, 2024 6:26 pm

tsherkin wrote:
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This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.



Yep, 21 points in the 2nd half from Jokic. He did his part, coulda shot a little better but it really just came down to his teammates missing a lot of open looks.


He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.


Despite the 19 boards he was a bit weak there in the second half if we're here to pile it on him.
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Post#311 » by hardenASG13 » Mon May 20, 2024 6:28 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
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DonaldSanders wrote:

Yep, 21 points in the 2nd half from Jokic. He did his part, coulda shot a little better but it really just came down to his teammates missing a lot of open looks.


He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.


Despite the 19 boards he was a bit weak there in the second half if we're here to pile it on him.


He sure was. Got lots of those rebounds in the first half when Minnesota couldn't make a shot and he was standing under the rim, uncontested.
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Post#312 » by DonaldSanders » Mon May 20, 2024 6:30 pm

tsherkin wrote:He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.



Yeah the open 3s were what I was thinking of. 54.7 TS% for the game, which is not to his standard, but his teammates were getting open looks and not hitting (Murray had a good game though).

I feel like Malone really needed to rest Jokic some to keep him fresh, he looked a bit gassed. Great Jokic game still.
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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#313 » by dhsilv2 » Mon May 20, 2024 6:49 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:
tsherkin wrote:He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.



Yeah the open 3s were what I was thinking of. 54.7 TS% for the game, which is not to his standard, but his teammates were getting open looks and not hitting (Murray had a good game though).

I feel like Malone really needed to rest Jokic some to keep him fresh, he looked a bit gassed. Great Jokic game still.


I'm still shocked Malone played Jokic 47 minutes. Jokic is involved in nearly every single one of their offensive and defensive plays.
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Post#314 » by AleksandarN » Mon May 20, 2024 6:57 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
tsherkin wrote:He shot over 61% inside the arc, just struggled from 3. He also had a half-dozen offensive rebounds, was rotating well on D, active hands... he did a little of everything, as usual. He just needed his team to show up, and apart from Murray (3Q notwithstanding), they did not. Particularly in the second half.

That game was a study in mirror images.



Yeah the open 3s were what I was thinking of. 54.7 TS% for the game, which is not to his standard, but his teammates were getting open looks and not hitting (Murray had a good game though).

I feel like Malone really needed to rest Jokic some to keep him fresh, he looked a bit gassed. Great Jokic game still.


I'm still shocked Malone played Jokic 47 minutes. Jokic is involved in nearly every single one of their offensive and defensive plays.

He still managed to score 14 points in the fourth.
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Post#315 » by dhsilv2 » Mon May 20, 2024 6:59 pm

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Yeah the open 3s were what I was thinking of. 54.7 TS% for the game, which is not to his standard, but his teammates were getting open looks and not hitting (Murray had a good game though).

I feel like Malone really needed to rest Jokic some to keep him fresh, he looked a bit gassed. Great Jokic game still.


I'm still shocked Malone played Jokic 47 minutes. Jokic is involved in nearly every single one of their offensive and defensive plays.

He still managed to score 14 points in the fourth.


4 boards in the second half and was gassed out there on defense. Even 2 less minutes could have made a huge difference.
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Post#316 » by TroubleS0me » Mon May 20, 2024 7:30 pm

what does HIM even mean?
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Post#317 » by DuallyNoted » Mon May 20, 2024 7:41 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:what does HIM even mean?

**** nothing just another stupid trend
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Re: Jokic is NOT him 

Post#318 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 20, 2024 7:58 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:
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:lol:


Today I learned 34/19/7 is considered crumbling :lol:

I'd look at the supporting cast performance in a closeout game 7...

Crumbling would be 15/8 on 28% shooting in a game 7 like someone last year...or 9/7 on 28% like last year in a game 7...


Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


Crumbling by Jokic, or crumbling by the Nuggets? Big difference..

Jokic scored 14, assisted on 4...meaning the Nuggets as a whole scored 5 points without his direct input.

If anything we saw just how bad the Nuggets outside of Jokic can be...cant' generate more than 5 points without his direct input?
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Post#319 » by An Unbiased Fan » Mon May 20, 2024 7:59 pm

tsherkin wrote:
hardenASG13 wrote:Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.

He didn't play a good second half. He settle for long shots while his team had a 20 point lead. Ultimately the loss is on him
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Post#320 » by Cubbies2120 » Mon May 20, 2024 9:13 pm

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tsherkin wrote:
hardenASG13 wrote:Blowing a 20 point 2nd half lead at home in a game 7 is crumbling in my book.


This is kind of off-base, though, because Jokic actually played a very good game and the team around him stank to high heaven. So it wasn't so much him "crumbling" as the team failing him, as has happened to basically any focal player you could care to mention.

He didn't play a good second half. He settle for long shots while his team had a 20 point lead. Ultimately the loss is on him


- Shot a three with a 12 point lead
- Shot a three with a 6 point lead

Where was he settling for long shots while his team had a 20 point lead?

In the final 16.5 minutes of the game, Jokic:
20 points scored
4 points assisted (2 assists)

The Nuggets, without Jokic's direct involvement, scored 5 points...in the final 16.5 minutes of the game.

These same Nuggets have 2 max contract players outside of Jokic. Yet only Jokic could do anything to score? What does that tell us about the help he has?

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