Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD?

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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#41 » by Yank3525 » Sun May 19, 2024 7:35 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
uncleduck13 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Because KD ain't that guy.

Luka Tha Don is. 8-)


No seriously KD has proven if it ain't GSW he's not a guarantee to win anything no matter how many great players he's played with. Just look at the big 3's that failed with KD over his career. The guy is a bus rider.


Not to turn this into a KD slander fest, but imagine how miserable he must feel watching Steph win without him and solidifying himself as greater all-time, then getting swept again in the first round with two different All-Stars, and now seeing Kyrie be on his best behavior and have more success alongside Luka :lol:


"Durant is the key to the warriors" was always a silly take given that they had a won title 2 years previous and lost in G7 the next year. It is downright absurd after 2022.


They aren't beating the Cavs at all without Durant.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#42 » by web123888 » Sun May 19, 2024 7:35 pm

Doncic is better than Durant and a far superior playoffs performer as well. He’s a much higher floor raiser and ceiling raiser and can’t be shut down in the playoffs as Durant has on multiple occasions.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#43 » by WentzerWuver » Sun May 19, 2024 7:36 pm

Yank3525 wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
uncleduck13 wrote:
Not to turn this into a KD slander fest, but imagine how miserable he must feel watching Steph win without him and solidifying himself as greater all-time, then getting swept again in the first round with two different All-Stars, and now seeing Kyrie be on his best behavior and have more success alongside Luka


"Durant is the key to the warriors" was always a silly take given that they had a won title 2 years previous and lost in G7 the next year. It is downright absurd after 2022.


They aren't beating the Cavs at all without Durant.
Duh like tell us something we don't know Lol

He almost beat Giannis at his best too, just miss by 4 cm in a game 7.

https://youtu.be/iw-O8B6H798?si=nPc0-iyJkbNsk-LE

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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#44 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun May 19, 2024 7:38 pm

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Not to turn this into a KD slander fest, but imagine how miserable he must feel watching Steph win without him and solidifying himself as greater all-time, then getting swept again in the first round with two different All-Stars, and now seeing Kyrie be on his best behavior and have more success alongside Luka :lol:


"Durant is the key to the warriors" was always a silly take given that they had a won title 2 years previous and lost in G7 the next year. It is downright absurd after 2022.


They aren't beating the Cavs at all without Durant.


Nobody lives off of one more series than Kyrie and Durant. If Dray doesn't get suspended two myths don't exist.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#45 » by nbafan38 » Sun May 19, 2024 7:38 pm

Yank3525 wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
uncleduck13 wrote:
Not to turn this into a KD slander fest, but imagine how miserable he must feel watching Steph win without him and solidifying himself as greater all-time, then getting swept again in the first round with two different All-Stars, and now seeing Kyrie be on his best behavior and have more success alongside Luka :lol:


"Durant is the key to the warriors" was always a silly take given that they had a won title 2 years previous and lost in G7 the next year. It is downright absurd after 2022.


They aren't beating the Cavs at all without Durant.


2017 maybe not
2018 they definitely win without Durant.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#46 » by Yank3525 » Sun May 19, 2024 7:42 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Yank3525 wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
"Durant is the key to the warriors" was always a silly take given that they had a won title 2 years previous and lost in G7 the next year. It is downright absurd after 2022.


They aren't beating the Cavs at all without Durant.


Nobody lives off of one more series than Kyrie and Durant. If Dray doesn't get suspended two myths don't exist.


Yeah, that is probably true. But it happened. Once the Cavs came back from being down 3-1, I don't think they had any fear of the Warriors pre-KD.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#47 » by LaLover11 » Sun May 19, 2024 7:50 pm

Because KD was supposed to be LeBrons Robin but he joined the dark side
Bronny will become Murray 2.0
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#48 » by Slimjimzv » Sun May 19, 2024 7:58 pm

Because the team he went to is a lot better.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#49 » by JustBuzzin » Sun May 19, 2024 7:59 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Because KD ain't that guy.

Luka Tha Don is. 8-)


No seriously KD has proven if it ain't GSW he's not a guarantee to win anything no matter how many great players he's played with. Just look at the big 3's that failed with KD over his career. The guy is a bus rider.
And you are a Luka lover. Prime KD would own Luka just like he owned Lebron and has 2 FMVP to prove it and can play with ANYONE!

https://youtu.be/iw-O8B6H798?si=Q4XM1jQkuocgkPk7

I am not even a KD fan but can't deny greatness!

KD got you fooled bro. Let it go he's not HIM!
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#50 » by Calvin Klein » Sun May 19, 2024 8:12 pm

Luka might be ball dominant but he obviously LOVES being part of a team and competing. KD?? I can't same the same.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#51 » by Pelly24 » Sun May 19, 2024 8:41 pm

Mr B wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
MrGoat wrote:Kyrie is at his best next to a ball dominant player like Luka who's a good enough passer to take some pressure off him when it comes to point guard duties. There's a reason he won a title with LeBron, he's always been good at playing off of another mega ball dominant star
You mean he prefers to be a Robin than a Batman.

In order for Kyrie to feel comfortable being Robin though he has to feel that the other guy is better than him. I’m not sure that he ever felt KD was better than him. He definitely feels that Luka is better than him so he’s comfortable deferring to him.



I don't think there was anything psychological there lol. Kyrie clearly deferred to KD with the nets, especially after 2021. just peep the shot distribution in the 2022 Celtics series.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#52 » by Lalouie » Sun May 19, 2024 8:52 pm

kd is a high scoring appendage

luka is a tailor of bespoke suits on savile row

kd/ki/jh/bs@bn were the classic knee jerk ego driven, "let's put on a show" of talents with the mentality of the three stooges.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#53 » by hardenASG13 » Sun May 19, 2024 8:59 pm

uncleduck13 wrote:
mademan wrote:Nets were well on their way to a dominant post season run until Kyrie came down on Giannis's foot. You cant plan for chit like that


I know the Big 3 version of the Nets were great, I’m speaking on the iteration post-Harden. The KD x Kyrie that got swept.


They traded Harden for Ben Simmons, who didn't play. The rest of their roster was pieces that didn't fit, and who weren't good players, and coach Nash made 0 adjustments in a sweep. That roster was built on a big 3, but there were only 2. They could've won in 2021 easily and last year were playing very well until Kyrie demanded out, followed by KD.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#54 » by jfs1000d » Sun May 19, 2024 9:17 pm

This isn’t brain surgery. Why more success?

Because he actually shows up and plays in the damn game.


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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#55 » by maverick_41 » Sun May 19, 2024 9:45 pm

What if Jason Kidd is a very strong presence in the locker room, who can manage relationships and inspire? He has a massive resume as a player, everyone respects him. Kyrie grew up watching him transforming the Nets from a laughing stock into back-to-back Conference champion.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#56 » by Pelly24 » Sun May 19, 2024 9:51 pm

Also really, above all else, the years between 2019 and today have been a battle to even have Kyrie be on the court at the right time. He only played 20 games in 2019-2020, he had the stupid breakdown and self-imposed sabbatical at points of the 2020-2021 season, and then he hurt his ankle in what should've been a winning series. Then he did the stupid covid stuff in 2021-2022, missed almost all that season, left the nets in a play-in situation, then they got swept by the Celtics and he just looked out of it. Then last year the Mavs just didn't have the size so they missed the playoffs, and the nets could've made a run, but Kyrie just decided to leave because he's messy and has no sense of order and maybe, "I should finish this" in him. So between all that stuff, it's just been a matter of being on the court.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#57 » by heezyo2o » Sun May 19, 2024 9:59 pm

Kyrie and Durant's last playoffs together in '22....KD just looked old and the Celtics just beat them. If Kyrie was healthy the year before then you probably remember them differently.

Given enough another time together where they were both healthy and on the court, I don't think there's any reason that KD and Kyrie couldn't have success.

Kyrie and Luka just missed the playoffs last year and before the trade deadline, they were looking overall average and a possible play in team. They got hot at the right time, role players are getting hot in the playoffs so now everything looks different.
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#58 » by Papi_swav » Sun May 19, 2024 10:03 pm

Well they would of won the chip that one year he got hurt in the playoffs. But KD just doesn't make other players better like Luka does or put others in the right spot
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#59 » by BrooklynDynasty » Sun May 19, 2024 10:07 pm

we still talkin' about Kyrie as a dynamic duo five years after John Wall and Isaiah Thomas fans were chirping about him as overrated :lol:
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Re: Why has Kyrie had more success with Luka over KD? 

Post#60 » by TinmanZBoy » Sun May 19, 2024 10:12 pm

uncleduck13 wrote:Fit wise, you would think Kyrie and KD would’ve been better, considering how less ball dominant KD is than Luka. Overall this duo in Dallas truly feels like a Batman and Robin situation, whereas in Brooklyn, I never really got those vibes.

If you like Kyrie or not, he probably is the most unique star who can fit any superstar… but you don’t want him to be your no1
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