TWolves fans, redraft in 2020, KG or Anthony Edwards?

[AussieCeltic]

KG lol

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

By your logic, Troy Hudson and Sam Cassell are better players than KG as well

[PurpleGreenGold]

Ant Man will get you to the promised land, KG's just a #2 with good defense.

[Raps in 4]

Not a Wolves fan, but I take Ant. His offensive ceiling is so much higher. He can already take over games like KG never could. I'd argue it's easier to build around that type of player.

[dygaction]

KG lol

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

If we just judge players by most points scored in a playoff game:

3. Donovan Mitchell -57
4. Jimmy Butler - 56
17. Boston Isiah Thomas - 53
23. Donovan Mitchell, Sleepy Floyd, and Sam Jones - 51
30. Vince Carter - 50
92. Zelmo Beaty - 46


Malachi Flynn, Corey Brewer, Vernon Maxwell, Caris LeVert, Andre Miller, Walt Wesley, Terrence Ross, Willie Burton, Tracy Murray, and Tony Delk have all had 50 point games, and KG never did!

I don't see your point, Mitchell and Butler are two great playoff performers with super high scoring dynamics. The thing with Edwards is he has had 7 games above KG's career high at 22, with 19 playoff games played. That's Jordanish. I think people are underestimating a #1 pick player who actually beats expectations.

[dygaction]

KG lol

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

By your logic, Troy Hudson and Sam Cassell are better players than KG as well

Really, do they have 7 games over 35 by 22 year old? A few game highs can be noise, but capped at 35 points over 143 games/~20 year span reflect offensive ceiling/limitation. Edwards may give 35ppg this series.

[NZB2323]

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

If we just judge players by most points scored in a playoff game:

3. Donovan Mitchell -57
4. Jimmy Butler - 56
17. Boston Isiah Thomas - 53
23. Donovan Mitchell, Sleepy Floyd, and Sam Jones - 51
30. Vince Carter - 50
92. Zelmo Beaty - 46


Malachi Flynn, Corey Brewer, Vernon Maxwell, Caris LeVert, Andre Miller, Walt Wesley, Terrence Ross, Willie Burton, Tracy Murray, and Tony Delk have all had 50 point games, and KG never did!

I don't see your point, Mitchell and Butler are two great playoff performers with super high scoring dynamics. The thing with Edwards is he has had 7 games above KG's career high at 22, with 19 playoff games played. That's Jordanish. I think people are underestimating a #1 pick player who actually beats expectations.

I’m saying your method for evaluating players is silly look at the Spurs. Most points scored by a player in a Spurs playoff game:

1. Gervin - 46
2. Gervin - 44
3. Kawhi - 43
4. Parker - 43
5. Gervin - 42
6. Gervin - 42
7. Gervin - 42
8. Aldridge - 42
9. Parker - 41
10. Gervin - 41
11. Duncan - 41

Ant is a very promising young player, but just judging players by playoff highs is silly.

[dygaction]

If we just judge players by most points scored in a playoff game:

3. Donovan Mitchell -57
4. Jimmy Butler - 56
17. Boston Isiah Thomas - 53
23. Donovan Mitchell, Sleepy Floyd, and Sam Jones - 51
30. Vince Carter - 50
92. Zelmo Beaty - 46


Malachi Flynn, Corey Brewer, Vernon Maxwell, Caris LeVert, Andre Miller, Walt Wesley, Terrence Ross, Willie Burton, Tracy Murray, and Tony Delk have all had 50 point games, and KG never did!

I don't see your point, Mitchell and Butler are two great playoff performers with super high scoring dynamics. The thing with Edwards is he has had 7 games above KG's career high at 22, with 19 playoff games played. That's Jordanish. I think people are underestimating a #1 pick player who actually beats expectations.

I’m saying your method for evaluating players is silly look at the Spurs. Most points scored by a player in a Spurs playoff game:

1. Gervin - 46
2. Gervin - 44
3. Kawhi - 43
4. Parker - 43
5. Gervin - 42
6. Gervin - 42
7. Gervin - 42
8. Aldridge - 42
9. Parker - 41
10. Gervin - 41
11. Duncan - 41

Ant is a very promising young player, but just judging players by playoff highs is silly.

You are confused. It was one data point not THE way of evaluating players.
Also, you will not be silly if you can show this trend for more than half of the teams. Also it took Gervin career to score like that and again Edwards is 22. Many NBA players have not started career or get into playoff yet. It is not unreasonable to expect the top 20 all Edwards 5 years later.

[xb3at band1tx]

Ant Man will get you to the promised land, KG's just a #2 with good defense.

my guy, the champs have just tied the series

ant hasn't taken them anywhere yet

[xb3at band1tx]

KG, 90% of those wolves teams were putrid. He essentially had to navigate as a one man army in the brutal west for most of his career.

Like others said, give him a team like ant has now and they become the dominant 2008 celtics.

Ant is phenomenal, but gotta hold the breaks right now. He's having a great playoffs but this is still a small sample size and we still dont know where this current series is heading.

[Ol Roy]

KG fits even better in this era than his own. He was a perimeter player shoehorned in the last days of a post league. He'd trade a lot of his long twos for threes. His passing would be utilized better. He'd defend up high more often than not.

[canada_dry]

If they played together Ant would be the alpha and KG the barky #2 who would much rather defend the last shot than take it, if that helps.

This.

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[canada_dry]

I'll take the true #1 option 10 times out of 10.

Ant has the true possibility to be that. Kg didnt.

Obviously as of right now you take kg , unless ant wins this year or something


But the actualized version of ANT at 25+ is what i would choose over a 2 way defensive monster whos more of a #2 offensively.



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[G35]

KG lol

Certainly KG can have a good argument, but lol at the lol - Ant man at 22 has played 19 playoff games, 7 of which had higher scoring than KG's career high.

Most points scored by player in wolves playoff game

1. Anthony Edwards - 44, 05/12/2024
2. Anthony Edwards - 43, 05/04/2024
3. Anthony Edwards - 41, 04/19/2023
4. Anthony Edwards - 40, 04/28/2024
5. Sam Cassell - 40, 05/04/2004
6. Sam Cassell - 40, 04/18/2004
7. Troy Hudson - 37, 04/22/2003
8. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/26/2024
9. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/21/2023
10. Anthony Edwards - 36, 04/16/2022
11. Kevin Garnett - 35, 04/22/2003

KG's primary value is his defense.

That would be like comparing Kobe to Duncan and saying Kobe is better cause he scores more.

This is a disingenuous argument on a variety of levels:
- Duncan is a superior scorer to KG while being just as good or better defender (better imo)
- Also what if you substituted Lebron/Jordan for Kobe...would everyone say the same thing

The problem with KG is that defense alone cannot win you a championship and no matter how good a defender is, no single player can defend all five players. However, a single player can carry an offense. Offense beats defense in the playoffs that is why KG is not rated as high as other players and he did not have great playoff success in Minnesota.....

[G35]

KG never played with the defensive player of the year, and sixth man of the year. He was the primary scorer, facilitator and playmaker on that Wolves team as the offensive ran through him. He also won defensive player of the year

Garnett had far more responsibility and importance to the wolves when he played

Do you know why KG never played with other great players in Minnesota? He was not a good leader.

Chauncey Billups left
Stephon Marbury left

Both All Star caliber players who didn't stay in Minnesota. KG is the player you add when you already have a leader in place with veterans like Boston had. Edwards showed that you can build in Minnesota and don't forget how many people trashed the Gobert trade, that is some revisionist history right there......

[web123888]

Tough call. Basically asking who you'd rather have between Kevin Garnett and Dwyane Wade, as Anthony Edwards likely projects to be a better 3-point shooting version (only cus of the era he grew up in and play style of today's game) of D-Wade.

[NO-KG-AI]

Anthony Edwards hasn’t even passed Kobe yet, he’s a long way from KG.

[hugepatsfan]

Ant is having a great playoff run. It’s worth pointing out though that entering this playoffs though, there’s probably a lot of people who would have had KG ranked higher on an all time list than they did Ant on a current players only ranking.

I get the argument for Ant because he seems to have that scoring mindset that KG lacked, but let’s keep it in context when we talk about what KG lacked… he’s universally regarded as a top 20ish player in the history of the game. The whole HISTORY of it. There are obvious criticisms of his game but let’s not blow up the scale of those criticisms.

[mowcrowbar]

wtf

[canada_dry]

Ant is having a great playoff run. It’s worth pointing out though that entering this playoffs though, there’s probably a lot of people who would have had KG ranked higher on an all time list than they did Ant on a current players only ranking.

I get the argument for Ant because he seems to have that scoring mindset that KG lacked, but let’s keep it in context when we talk about what KG lacked… he’s universally regarded as a top 20ish player in the history of the game. The whole HISTORY of it. There are obvious criticisms of his game but let’s not blow up the scale of those criticisms.

Yea of course the argument isn't about all time ranking Or who is more accomplished. Its about what type of player you prefer as your franchise player .

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[dygaction]

Ant is having a great playoff run. It’s worth pointing out though that entering this playoffs though, there’s probably a lot of people who would have had KG ranked higher on an all time list than they did Ant on a current players only ranking.

I get the argument for Ant because he seems to have that scoring mindset that KG lacked, but let’s keep it in context when we talk about what KG lacked… he’s universally regarded as a top 20ish player in the history of the game. The whole HISTORY of it. There are obvious criticisms of his game but let’s not blow up the scale of those criticisms.

For super young players, a full season and short playoff span can certainly change people's mind.

Before this season, the choice between Wemby and KG would have been landslide KG, but now, a season later with Spurs in lottery, the poll would favor Wemby, I bet.