Shams: LeBron wins tournament MVP

[Homer38]

Every superstar has had failures but:

85 playoffs
29/6/9 vs Milwaukee

86 playoffs
44/6/6 vs Boston

87 playoffs
36/7/6 vs Boston

88 playoffs
27/9/5 vs Detroit

89 playoffs
30/6/7 vs Detroit

90 playoffs
32/7/6 vs Detroit

Against the two best teams in the east during that time he played like a superstar in the playoffs. No player is perfect but give me Jordan over James 7 days a week. And ive never seen Jordan play so un superstar like in as big a series as James in 11. James was also pretty mediocre in the 07 finals

It doesn't matter the stats if you criticize LBJ for the losses of 2009 or 2017 as an example

I don't think a 22 year old player would have been good against a defense like the Spurs in 2007, much less with the poor supporting cast that LBJ had in offense... it's incredible he made the final with this lineup

2011 doesn't erase the rest of LBJ's accomplishments(see below), before or after, unless you have the same standard for MJ in the final 3 games vs Detroit in 1989?

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Bron muse lol??? How old are you? I can post a bunch of pro Jordan stats too its not that hard lol. James is all about the stats but give me the guy who just won.

10 finals and 4 titles with 4 FMVP is not winning?....as I said in my post before, the difference is that Jordan has never played in the final against a top 5 caliber offense and defense in the finals like it happened at least 7 times for LBJ with the warriors and the spurs

We know Jordan was unable to beat the Celtics and Pistons in their prime

[nikster]

It doesn't matter the stats if you criticize LBJ for the losses of 2009 or 2017 as an example

I don't think a 22 year old player would have been good against a defense like the Spurs in 2007, much less with the poor supporting cast that LBJ had in offense... it's incredible he made the final with this lineup

2011 doesn't erase the rest of LBJ's accomplishments(see below), before or after, unless you have the same standard for MJ in the final 3 games vs Detroit in 1989?

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Bron muse lol??? How old are you? I can post a bunch of pro Jordan stats too its not that hard lol. James is all about the stats but give me the guy who just won.

10 finals and 4 titles with 4 FMVP is not winning?....as I said in my post before, the difference is that Jordan has never played in the final against a top 5 caliber offense and defense in the finals like it happened at least 7 times for LBJ with the warriors and the spurs

We know Jordan was unable to beat the Celtics and Pistons in their prime

Yeah it's funny a guy with 4 titles is not a winner.

Jordan fans always point out that the Celtics and Pistons were just over matched for the Bulls because they had a massive talent advantage. What if those teams hit their prime a little later into Jordan's career and his supporting cast took longer to improve? Does that make MJ a worse player?

[NbaAllDay]

Bron muse lol??? How old are you? I can post a bunch of pro Jordan stats too its not that hard lol. James is all about the stats but give me the guy who just won.

10 finals and 4 titles with 4 FMVP is not winning?....as I said in my post before, the difference is that Jordan has never played in the final against a top 5 caliber offense and defense in the finals like it happened at least 7 times for LBJ with the warriors and the spurs

We know Jordan was unable to beat the Celtics and Pistons in their prime

Yeah it's funny a guy with 4 titles is not a winner.

Jordan fans always point out that the Celtics and Pistons were just over matched for the Bulls because they had a massive talent advantage. What if those teams hit their prime a little later into Jordan's career and his supporting cast took longer to improve? Does that make MJ a worse player?

Remember all MJ ever did was win. He only played 6 seasons and won each time.

[binjumper]

It's LeBron who taught Wade how to win. They entered the NBA in the same draft, LeBron had already won 3 titles in 4 years, Wade had nothing.

Lol what?

I can try dumbing it down if you want

You're not actually serious are you?

[Chessboxer]

Bron muse lol??? How old are you? I can post a bunch of pro Jordan stats too its not that hard lol. James is all about the stats but give me the guy who just won.

10 finals and 4 titles with 4 FMVP is not winning?....as I said in my post before, the difference is that Jordan has never played in the final against a top 5 caliber offense and defense in the finals like it happened at least 7 times for LBJ with the warriors and the spurs

We know Jordan was unable to beat the Celtics and Pistons in their prime

Yeah it's funny a guy with 4 titles is not a winner.

Jordan fans always point out that the Celtics and Pistons were just over matched for the Bulls because they had a massive talent advantage. What if those teams hit their prime a little later into Jordan's career and his supporting cast took longer to improve? Does that make MJ a worse player?

These hypotheticals are pointless because we have to no way of proving it, just as there's also no way to prove MJ wouldn't of won either. These hypotheticals for some reason always get placed on MJ when they are also applicable to Lebron ( and any other NBA champion/Finals MVP). What if Draymond doesn't get suspended changing the momentum of 2016? What if Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3? Lebron theoretically has 2 titles. What if Lebron doesn't jump ship and has to face prime healthy Wade/Bosh, does he even get to the Finals that year? If he doesn't join the Heat consolidating 3 of the top 10 players in the league on the same team, does he secure 4 straight Finals trips that he's so lauded for?


We can't pretend Lebron hasn't been the beneficiary any luck, and only MJ has been lucky.

[nikster]

10 finals and 4 titles with 4 FMVP is not winning?....as I said in my post before, the difference is that Jordan has never played in the final against a top 5 caliber offense and defense in the finals like it happened at least 7 times for LBJ with the warriors and the spurs

We know Jordan was unable to beat the Celtics and Pistons in their prime

Yeah it's funny a guy with 4 titles is not a winner.

Jordan fans always point out that the Celtics and Pistons were just over matched for the Bulls because they had a massive talent advantage. What if those teams hit their prime a little later into Jordan's career and his supporting cast took longer to improve? Does that make MJ a worse player?

These hypotheticals are pointless because we have to no way of proving it, just as there's also no way to prove MJ wouldn't of won either. These hypotheticals for some reason always get placed on MJ when they are also applicable to Lebron ( and any other NBA champion/Finals MVP). What if Draymond doesn't get suspended changing the momentum of 2016? What if Ray Allen doesn't hit that 3? Lebron theoretically has 2 titles. What if Lebron doesn't jump ship and has to face prime healthy Wade/Bosh, does he even get to the Finals that year? If he doesn't join the Heat consolidating 3 of the top 10 players in the league on the same team, does he secure 4 straight Finals trips that he's so lauded for?


We can't pretend Lebron hasn't been the beneficiary any luck, and only MJ has been lucky.

I'm not saying Lebron isn't a beneficiary of luck either. He certainly is in several ways. Just pointing how crazy it is to imply Lebron is not a winner

[CobraCommander]

Already using the IST Cup in LeBron>MJ arguments is so funny

Does jordan have a in season mvp? Hell jordan didn’t even win a single in season GAME!..

How LBJ fans looking at me now when I walk in the barber shop to get that line up and extra bigen

[The Laker Kid]

He's gonna need a bigger Ikea cabinet

[Homer38]

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[JordansBulls]

So clear this tournament means nothing. Like one of those tournaments in the ncaa at the beginning of the year

[Lakers824]

He can console himself with this lmao

[Gregoire]

GOAT IST player!!!