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What happened to this dude? In his first two years, he averaged 15/3/3 for good Heat teams. I know he got hurt, but was his injury that bad? I thought he should've been given more of a chance.

Dude's out of the league already?

He signed with Euroleague upper middle team Panathinaikos, is coached by Ataman, and is having a good season, tho I wouldn't call him Euroleague star at least now. For a smaller guy, he doesn't have burst or athleticism to be on serious NBA radar.

Last year he was with the Washington Wizards, dysfunctional team.

He'd rather play for a powerhouse team overseas (probably more pay, too) , where he's at now. In Greece. lol

He is playing in my team Panathinaikos, he has lots of ups and downs, missing consistency, i was expecting better 3pt shooting from him or creativity. Am expecting way more than what he showed

He wasn’t good enough to play in the NBA /thread

Liam_Gallagher wrote:What happened to this dude? In his first two years, he averaged 15/3/3 for good Heat teams. I know he got hurt, but was his injury that bad? I thought he should've been given more of a chance.

Dude's out of the league already?

That pretty much answers the question. The Heat culture, system, training regimen and diet had him looking like a true nba player. Without that he's just a Euroleague starter. Gabe Vincent looked like a stud in the POs but has 12% from range this season.

Props to the Heat. I wonder how many all star teams Darko Milicic would have made, had they selected him in 03. Real talk.

Greek wrote:He is playing in my team Panathinaikos, he has lots of ups and downs, missing consistency, i was expecting better 3pt shooting from him or creativity. Am expecting way more than what he showed

Yes, he is very inconsistent so far, kind off like Isaiah Canaan earlier in his euro career, guy was brutal, but now often stars for stacked Olympiacos team. I think Nunn will be very good euro player, but maybe not yet for Panathinaikos. I don't really see him coming back To NBA unless he is content with two way or something like that. At least you guys dodged Edmond Sumner, that guy will be out of Euroleague soon unless serious turn around happens.

I read a couple days ago that he hasnt missed a FT since joining Pana. GOAT euro FT shooter.

Turns out the bar for 6'2" point guards to stay in the NBA is really high.

Liam_Gallagher wrote:What happened to this dude?

Lakers happened. Just ask Gabe Vincent

meekrab wrote:Turns out the bar for 6'2" point guards to stay in the NBA is really high.

Nann and PG doesnt fit in the same sentence, at least from what he showed to us. He is mediocre to decent gunner but far from good to great euroleague player, but am willing to give him a chance since we got like 12 new players and a new coach.

How many **** did he give?

Nunn, probably.

Greek wrote:

meekrab wrote:Turns out the bar for 6'2" point guards to stay in the NBA is really high.

Nann and PG doesnt fit in the same sentence, at least from what he showed to us. He is mediocre to decent gunner but far from good to great euroleague player, but am willing to give him a chance since we got like 12 new players and a new coach.

hard to play any other position at that size.

UcanUwill wrote:He signed with Euroleague upper middle team Panathinaikos, is coached by Ataman, and is having a good season, tho I wouldn't call him Euroleague star at least now. For a smaller guy, he doesn't have burst or athleticism to be on serious NBA radar.

I'm not sure I'd say that it's "good" so far. He's only effective if he is hitting jump shots. Otherwise, he's just taking a bunch of one on one plays and basically low percentage at that, and with basically no ability to play make or involve teammates at all.

I would say that Panathinaikos' budget right now has to be higher than upper middle. Hernangomez....he's a gigantic bust signing for them so far. Him and Kemba might be the two most overpaid players in EuroLeague right now.

lambchop wrote:

Liam_Gallagher wrote:What happened to this dude? In his first two years, he averaged 15/3/3 for good Heat teams. I know he got hurt, but was his injury that bad? I thought he should've been given more of a chance.

Dude's out of the league already?

That pretty much answers the question. The Heat culture, system, training regimen and diet had him looking like a true nba player. Without that he's just a Euroleague starter. Gabe Vincent looked like a stud in the POs but has 12% from range this season.

Props to the Heat. I wonder how many all star teams Darko Milicic would have made, had they selected him in 03. Real talk.

EuroLeague doesn't really have "starters". Several EuroLeague MVPs were bench players. Strictly set starters and bench players has not really been a thing in EuroLeague, at least not for many years.

UcanUwill wrote:

Greek wrote:He is playing in my team Panathinaikos, he has lots of ups and downs, missing consistency, i was expecting better 3pt shooting from him or creativity. Am expecting way more than what he showed

Yes, he is very inconsistent so far, kind off like Isaiah Canaan earlier in his euro career, guy was brutal, but now often stars for stacked Olympiacos team. I think Nunn will be very good euro player, but maybe not yet for Panathinaikos. I don't really see him coming back To NBA unless he is content with two way or something like that. At least you guys dodged Edmond Sumner, that guy will be out of Euroleague soon unless serious turn around happens.

Isaiah Canaan is an absolute one trick pony. All he can do is shoot. He can't pass, he can't dribble, he can't create, he can't run pick and roll, he can't play defense......

He's like the most one dimensional rotation guard in EuroLeague. He's basically like a worse version of Andy Obst. All Canaan is good for is shooting open jumpers, and he benefits from Bartzoka's system that gets open shots for guys. Same way Vezenkov and now Peters benefit from it.

But if Canaan isn't making open 3s, he is a totally useless player.

Mirotic12 wrote:EuroLeague doesn't really have "starters". Several EuroLeague MVPs were bench players. Strictly set starters and bench players has not really been a thing in EuroLeague, at least not for many years.

No related to the thread, I know, but I'd like to ask you: how would you evaluate former Warriors Ekpe Udoh's and Anthony Randolph's careers in Europe?

The knee injury really ruined him. He had tons of upside IMO.

I remember him showing flashes in Miami. He was always great in the open floor, not so much in the half court.

He went to the Lakers and his career died

He goes by the name Gabe Vincent nowadays.

Mirotic12 wrote:

UcanUwill wrote:He signed with Euroleague upper middle team Panathinaikos, is coached by Ataman, and is having a good season, tho I wouldn't call him Euroleague star at least now. For a smaller guy, he doesn't have burst or athleticism to be on serious NBA radar.

I'm not sure I'd say that it's "good" so far. He's only effective if he is hitting jump shots. Otherwise, he's just taking a bunch of one on one plays and basically low percentage at that, and with basically no ability to play make or involve teammates at all.

I would say that Panathinaikos' budget right now has to be higher than upper middle. Hernangomez....he's a gigantic bust signing for them so far. Him and Kemba might be the two most overpaid players in EuroLeague right now.

lambchop wrote:

Liam_Gallagher wrote:What happened to this dude? In his first two years, he averaged 15/3/3 for good Heat teams. I know he got hurt, but was his injury that bad? I thought he should've been given more of a chance.

Dude's out of the league already?

That pretty much answers the question. The Heat culture, system, training regimen and diet had him looking like a true nba player. Without that he's just a Euroleague starter. Gabe Vincent looked like a stud in the POs but has 12% from range this season.

Props to the Heat. I wonder how many all star teams Darko Milicic would have made, had they selected him in 03. Real talk.

EuroLeague doesn't really have "starters". Several EuroLeague MVPs were bench players. Strictly set starters and bench players has not really been a thing in EuroLeague, at least not for many years.

UcanUwill wrote:

Greek wrote:He is playing in my team Panathinaikos, he has lots of ups and downs, missing consistency, i was expecting better 3pt shooting from him or creativity. Am expecting way more than what he showed

Yes, he is very inconsistent so far, kind off like Isaiah Canaan earlier in his euro career, guy was brutal, but now often stars for stacked Olympiacos team. I think Nunn will be very good euro player, but maybe not yet for Panathinaikos. I don't really see him coming back To NBA unless he is content with two way or something like that. At least you guys dodged Edmond Sumner, that guy will be out of Euroleague soon unless serious turn around happens.

Isaiah Canaan is an absolute one trick pony. All he can do is shoot. He can't pass, he can't dribble, he can't create, he can't run pick and roll, he can't play defense......

He's like the most one dimensional rotation guard in EuroLeague. He's basically like a worse version of Andy Obst. All Canaan is good for is shooting open jumpers, and he benefits from Bartzoka's system that gets open shots for guys. Same way Vezenkov and now Peters benefit from it.

But if Canaan isn't making open 3s, he is a totally useless player.

The Wiz would trade Poole for him if you pay his contract. He is more than a 1 trick pony, he has great handles too unlike a Randy.