schnakenpopanz wrote:oh guess what the suns almost made it to the conference finals last year too. they gave the champs the hardest time of them all.
And they have a much better roster this year than last season.
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schnakenpopanz wrote:oh guess what the suns almost made it to the conference finals last year too. they gave the champs the hardest time of them all.
CP3nthusiast wrote:Pointgod wrote:Suns are the team none of the top 4 teams want to face. They seemed to have made the right moves getting rid of DominAyton and Chris Paul is still injured as always. Grayson Allen by himself is probably worth more than Ayton.
Phoenix are in a good position and could be a dark horse to win the championship. They still haven’t figured out their habit of collapsing in the 4th quarter. I think they’ll actually be well poised to make a run next season. They just need to bring in more defense and size.
With what assets?
CP3nthusiast wrote:You don't own any of your first round picks for the next seven years. Your championship hopes rest solely on Devin Booker and a 35 year old KD making it past a gauntlet of superteams led by the likes of Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic, SGA, Joel Embiid, Jayson Tatum, LeBron James, Stephen Curry and Anthony Edwards. Your starting and closing lineup hasn't played more than 266 minutes together all season. Your best perimeter defender is Josh Okogie (who's unplayable) and your best big man defender is Jusuf Nurkic (who sucks). More than 90% of your cap space is tied up by three guys, two of whom haven't played more than 60 games in a season since 2018-19 and one of whom has already played nearly 1800 minutes this season. You have zero lucrative trade assets outside of those three.
How are you all not constantly freaking out? You've made all the moves you could've possibly made and yet you're not even the consensus second or third favorite to make it out of your conference. You're ONE game ahead of the 7th seed. KD goes out for 2 weeks and you'll be duking it out with the Lakers or the Warriors for a playoff spot.
There are no more excuses to make. It's championship or bust from hereon in. Every year you don't win is a year KD gets closer to 40 and Booker gets closer to making an SOS call to Leon Rose. And if that happens sooner rather than later, you'll be faced with the prospect of having to suffer through multiple 20 win seasons with no discernible way out because you won't own any of your first round picks for the rest of the decade. My dumbass team also insists on squandering their draft capital to surround their 22 year old franchise player who can't dribble with C-level talent but at least they're not expected to win a championship. There is no such respite for your team.
Be totally honest, if you could go back to last year's trade deadline and possess Mat Ishbia's body for the day, would you veto the KD trade? Would you not have rather kept Bridges and let him blossom into the player that he is today and instead traded Cam Johnson and two of those picks for Siakam? Retain some flexibility and give yourself an out if all goes wrong?
ChipotleWest wrote:CP3nthusiast wrote:You don't own any of your first round picks for the next seven years. Your championship hopes rest solely on Devin Booker and a 35 year old KD making it past a gauntlet of superteams led by the likes of Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic, SGA, Joel Embiid, Jayson Tatum, LeBron James, Stephen Curry and Anthony Edwards. Your starting and closing lineup hasn't played more than 266 minutes together all season. Your best perimeter defender is Josh Okogie (who's unplayable) and your best big man defender is Jusuf Nurkic (who sucks). More than 90% of your cap space is tied up by three guys, two of whom haven't played more than 60 games in a season since 2018-19 and one of whom has already played nearly 1800 minutes this season. You have zero lucrative trade assets outside of those three.
How are you all not constantly freaking out? You've made all the moves you could've possibly made and yet you're not even the consensus second or third favorite to make it out of your conference. You're ONE game ahead of the 7th seed. KD goes out for 2 weeks and you'll be duking it out with the Lakers or the Warriors for a playoff spot.
There are no more excuses to make. It's championship or bust from hereon in. Every year you don't win is a year KD gets closer to 40 and Booker gets closer to making an SOS call to Leon Rose. And if that happens sooner rather than later, you'll be faced with the prospect of having to suffer through multiple 20 win seasons with no discernible way out because you won't own any of your first round picks for the rest of the decade. My dumbass team also insists on squandering their draft capital to surround their 22 year old franchise player who can't dribble with C-level talent but at least they're not expected to win a championship. There is no such respite for your team.
Be totally honest, if you could go back to last year's trade deadline and possess Mat Ishbia's body for the day, would you veto the KD trade? Would you not have rather kept Bridges and let him blossom into the player that he is today and instead traded Cam Johnson and two of those picks for Siakam? Retain some flexibility and give yourself an out if all goes wrong?
Not a Suns fan but just curious, how's it going with CP3's chances of ever winning a ring?
CP3nthusiast wrote:ChipotleWest wrote:CP3nthusiast wrote:You don't own any of your first round picks for the next seven years. Your championship hopes rest solely on Devin Booker and a 35 year old KD making it past a gauntlet of superteams led by the likes of Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic, SGA, Joel Embiid, Jayson Tatum, LeBron James, Stephen Curry and Anthony Edwards. Your starting and closing lineup hasn't played more than 266 minutes together all season. Your best perimeter defender is Josh Okogie (who's unplayable) and your best big man defender is Jusuf Nurkic (who sucks). More than 90% of your cap space is tied up by three guys, two of whom haven't played more than 60 games in a season since 2018-19 and one of whom has already played nearly 1800 minutes this season. You have zero lucrative trade assets outside of those three.
How are you all not constantly freaking out? You've made all the moves you could've possibly made and yet you're not even the consensus second or third favorite to make it out of your conference. You're ONE game ahead of the 7th seed. KD goes out for 2 weeks and you'll be duking it out with the Lakers or the Warriors for a playoff spot.
There are no more excuses to make. It's championship or bust from hereon in. Every year you don't win is a year KD gets closer to 40 and Booker gets closer to making an SOS call to Leon Rose. And if that happens sooner rather than later, you'll be faced with the prospect of having to suffer through multiple 20 win seasons with no discernible way out because you won't own any of your first round picks for the rest of the decade. My dumbass team also insists on squandering their draft capital to surround their 22 year old franchise player who can't dribble with C-level talent but at least they're not expected to win a championship. There is no such respite for your team.
Be totally honest, if you could go back to last year's trade deadline and possess Mat Ishbia's body for the day, would you veto the KD trade? Would you not have rather kept Bridges and let him blossom into the player that he is today and instead traded Cam Johnson and two of those picks for Siakam? Retain some flexibility and give yourself an out if all goes wrong?
Not a Suns fan but just curious, how's it going with CP3's chances of ever winning a ring?
Why would I care?
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
One_and_Done wrote:Given their injuries and the strength of the conference, going pretty well I'd say.
SlovenianDragon wrote:Im aight.
WolfAddict wrote:I can only assume a Suns player/fan kicked your dog or something...
Blame Rasho wrote:2.7 out of 10 for a gloat thread… seen better. Honestly, the timing is pretty bad too… revised to 2.375 out of 10.
SlovenianDragon wrote:So ive read ops comments and he is mistaken about this suns team... We are the only team last year to put up a fight against Denver and take 2 games off them mainly on the back of Booker going super saiyan... But the team is much better now... Additions like Nurk, allen, EG, and Oneale... The team is deep and just need to be healthy to beat anyone... Op says its championship or bust and thats true...Butthats a good place to be... We have our eyes on the prize and not just trying to be some playoff treadmill team... If and when this all comes to an end and we have nothing to show for it atleast we tried....Go Suns!
Mr Puddles wrote:This feels an awful lot like that thread made about the Suns a couple of years ago, when they ended up going to the finals.
Let's see if OP will delete his post too, like the creator of that thread did after it got bumped.
Sane wrote:What a silly thread. They are in their first season together and have not been healthy much. They can still deal Durant or Beal to convert to a deeper team. Most teams do not even have the option of having 2 stars as good as Booker and Durant. Durant's game is going to age extremely well.
Raptors fans will understand why it was worth the risk when in 5 years they still can't find someone to pair with Barnes. Durants and Bookers don't grow on trees. Those assets are gold, even if they are not clicking together.
dans1230 wrote:hauntedcomputer wrote:Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all.
Draft picks seven years from now when global temperature is up two degrees are pretty meaningless.
Geez man, lighten up a bit......
The Suns will be able to recoup some picks towards the end of their star players deals if they arent winning, meanwhile they are going to be competitive and a threat to any team they may face in the playoffs. Who in the West is a guarantee to beat them in a series?
sunsbum wrote:I’m feeling pretty good. We don’t have to watch Ayton for the next 3 years.
CP3nthusiast wrote:WolfAddict wrote:I can only assume a Suns player/fan kicked your dog or something...
I can only assume they're kicking their own dogs now