2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2)

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Mavericks vs. Clippers Series Result

Mavericks SWEEP!
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2%
Mavericks 4-1
26
7%
Mavericks 4-2
150
43%
Mavericks 4-3
53
15%
Clippers SWEEP!
16
5%
Clippers 4-1
6
2%
Clippers 4-2
48
14%
Clippers 4-3
46
13%
 
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5081 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Sat May 4, 2024 6:01 am

eyeatoma wrote:I'm rooting for OKC, but if the Mavs win, I'm fine rooting for them.


I’m opposite, rooting for the Mavs but I’m cool with OKC too :D
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5082 » by stuporman » Sat May 4, 2024 6:13 am

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Nah, the problem here is that people have short memories when looking back. At the time Brunson wanted a 4-y4/$55 million contract, he wasn't worth that money. He didn't excel in anything except driving to the basket. He was a one-dimensional player who completely disappeared in the 2020/2021 playoffs.
And when he actually became worth that money (by the end of 2022), they weren't able to keep him. Not even for more money. Let me ask you again, how is that Luka's fault?


I didn't say that was Luka's fault...if you are going to make crap up that I haven't said then you don't really need me for that, so why even quote me?

020-21 24 DAL NBA PG 68 12 1697 7.0 13.3 .523 1.7 4.2 .405 5.2 9.1 .578 2.5 3.2 .795 0.6 4.3 4.9 5.1 0.7 0.0 1.7 2.3 18.2

Those were his numbers in the 20-21 season...you don't think that was worth $13mil per year?

18/5/5 on 52/40/80 not worth it?

Yes, I do have to agree with you on one thing....people have short memories.


EDIT: I pulled his per36 not per game... 12/3/3 not 18/5/5 but still worth the money imo.


it was because of his 2021 playoff performance 8.0/2.6/1.4. In the 3w-4l 7 game series, he was -9, -7, -10 in the three +10, +6, +5 wins. Coach had to reduced his time from 25mpg in the regular season to 16mpg in the playoff. Brunson made a big improvement the next season


His per36 in those playoffs were similar to the season and those plus minuses actually tell us a little about his impact even as a first time in the playoffs young vet player.

The fact that you guys as fans on a forum don't think he was worth it actually reinforces how terrible of a talent and production evaluation decision it was if the team thought that. He was right in their org and they are supposed to be professionals.

He was worth that low money to run the offense when Luka sat and run a little next to him hitting open shots created by him.

He proved that much and they...oh wait, I guess including you, missed it. Of course, I wanted the Knicks to draft Brunson with one of their picks and they passed him up so I have some bias in my opinion of the player.

Whoops :lol:
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Re: West Playoffs - 1st Round: Mavericks vs. Clippers 

Post#5083 » by BeiBeau » Sat May 4, 2024 6:14 am

clippertown wrote:
7. If you look at the best players for both teams, you have (in my own order) Luka, Kawhi, George, Kyrie, James, Russ, Powell, Mann, Hardaway Jr, Zubac, Washington, Gafford. After that, I feel like Coffey, Bones, Theis and Plumlee are better than Lively, Jones, Exum and Kieber. Dallas has the best player, but the Clips have a more rounded and superior roster overall.

Overall, I stand by my Clips in 7 prediction but it could also be Clips in 6.


Man I can’t believe we let this slide my guy. Lively, Gafford, Washington, Jones, Kleber >>>>> Russ, Powell, Mann, Zubac
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5084 » by dygaction » Sat May 4, 2024 6:18 am

stuporman wrote:
dygaction wrote:
stuporman wrote:
I didn't say that was Luka's fault...if you are going to make crap up that I haven't said then you don't really need me for that, so why even quote me?

020-21 24 DAL NBA PG 68 12 1697 7.0 13.3 .523 1.7 4.2 .405 5.2 9.1 .578 2.5 3.2 .795 0.6 4.3 4.9 5.1 0.7 0.0 1.7 2.3 18.2

Those were his numbers in the 20-21 season...you don't think that was worth $13mil per year?

18/5/5 on 52/40/80 not worth it?

Yes, I do have to agree with you on one thing....people have short memories.


EDIT: I pulled his per36 not per game... 12/3/3 not 18/5/5 but still worth the money imo.


it was because of his 2021 playoff performance 8.0/2.6/1.4. In the 3w-4l 7 game series, he was -9, -7, -10 in the three +10, +6, +5 wins. Coach had to reduced his time from 25mpg in the regular season to 16mpg in the playoff. Brunson made a big improvement the next season


His per36 in those playoffs were similar to the season and those plus minuses actually tell us a little about his impact even as a first time in the playoffs young vet player.

The fact that you guys as fans on a forum don't think he was worth it actually reinforces how terrible of a talent and production evaluation decision it was if the team thought that. He was right in their org and they are supposed to be professions.

He was worth that low money to run the offense when Luka sat and run a little next to him hitting open shots created by him.

He proved that much and they...oh wait, I guess including you, missed it. Of course, I wanted the Knicks to draft Brunson with one of their picks and they passed him up so I have some bias in my opinion of the player.

Whoops :lol:


It's hindsight, and all turned out to be well. Brunson gets spotlight in NYK, Luka gets a better 2nd option in Kyrie, both teams are playing the 2nd round. Dont think Luka and Brunson can work as great as him and Kyrie.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5085 » by stuporman » Sat May 4, 2024 6:33 am

dygaction wrote:
stuporman wrote:
dygaction wrote:
it was because of his 2021 playoff performance 8.0/2.6/1.4. In the 3w-4l 7 game series, he was -9, -7, -10 in the three +10, +6, +5 wins. Coach had to reduced his time from 25mpg in the regular season to 16mpg in the playoff. Brunson made a big improvement the next season


His per36 in those playoffs were similar to the season and those plus minuses actually tell us a little about his impact even as a first time in the playoffs young vet player.

The fact that you guys as fans on a forum don't think he was worth it actually reinforces how terrible of a talent and production evaluation decision it was if the team thought that. He was right in their org and they are supposed to be professions.

He was worth that low money to run the offense when Luka sat and run a little next to him hitting open shots created by him.

He proved that much and they...oh wait, I guess including you, missed it. Of course, I wanted the Knicks to draft Brunson with one of their picks and they passed him up so I have some bias in my opinion of the player.

Whoops :lol:


It's hindsight, and all turned out to be well. Brunson gets spotlight in NYK, Luka gets a better 2nd option in Kyrie, both teams are playing the 2nd round. Dont think Luka and Brunson can work as great as him and Kyrie.


Who knows how good they would or would not have been together, they got to the WCF in their 4th season together and neither have gotten back yet but that is left to be determined.

The Knicks scored a superstar for a second round pick and the Mavs pivoted rather quickly to another superstar opportunity for relatively cheap if the positive mojo keeps flowing for them.

It was risky but dangit Luka and Kyrie has some serious upside potential if they can keep it together long enough to build it out some more.

The Knicks have a really nice window, too, in the weaker east so maybe Knicks-Mavs 2025 finals if they don't double shock the world in 2024. :o

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5086 » by hauntedcomputer » Sat May 4, 2024 10:20 am

Cool to read the drunk angry mob that lingers after the game is over
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5087 » by Archx » Sat May 4, 2024 10:37 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:

harden has peaked higher than any luka season and it will stay that way until luka becomes a better shooter haha


Luka is better then notorious overrated playoff choker James harden has even been right now.

Maybe James harden should try winning in the playoffs before we bend over to jerk him off.



538 raptor/epm/per/win shares/bpm/average single season game score

harden blows fluka away


This is peak Harden. Product of refs and then we know what happens in playoffs with him. He probably had more success in strip clubs....

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5088 » by Mr B » Sat May 4, 2024 11:17 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:im glad that it looks like maxi kleber broke his collarbone

i love that

hopefully that pillsbury doubough tears his acl being guarded by lu dort.. i would love to see that also



Embarrassing.

Luka >> Harden

But we already knew that.



luka is overrated, he hasnt peaked higher than harden..

in not one advanced metric can you nme that he has has a better single season than harden from 2018-2020

Harden’s floor is MUCH lower than Luka’s. Harden has shown over his career that he will disappear in the playoffs. When he has a bad night in the playoffs it’s usually really bad and it usually costs his team a win. Luka has yet not to show up in a playoff game.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5089 » by Mr B » Sat May 4, 2024 11:21 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:

that dude is a luka fan



Here's what we can say without dispute:

Luka never beat the Clips until Harden joined them.

If only Jimmy had gotten there sooner.

Buh bye Beard.


luka might be the most overrated nba player i have seen since manu ginobili and shawn marion lol

Ironically both of those guys are Champions.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5090 » by Mr B » Sat May 4, 2024 11:25 am

Patches Perry wrote:It's still wild to me how normal Kawhi's postseason injury has become. It's every year at this point and we just expect it.

It’s wild that he was able to stay healthy enough to get that new contract and once he did he shut it down.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5091 » by Mr B » Sat May 4, 2024 11:44 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
bubonicphoniks wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:

system man has never missed the playoffs.. can fluka and his empty numbers say that


I ain't talkin about Luka.

Im talkin about Harden...and he better not miss the playoff with the team mates he's had.

But go ahead and keep on lowering that bar.



fun fact, the okc thunder had the 3rd worst record in 2009, they draft harden and win 50 games the next season

harden was elite by his 3rd season, his impact metrics were insane and BETTER THAN lukas lol

only casuals who dont understand basketball would say luka is better than prime harden

Harden was the 3rd or 4th best player on that OKC team. That’s like saying Tim Hardaway Jr is the reason the Mavs won 50 games this season. The only thing Harden is better than Luka at is knowing where all the strip clubs are at.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5092 » by MrGoat » Sat May 4, 2024 11:47 am

hauntedcomputer wrote:Cool to read the drunk angry mob that lingers after the game is over


Whoever loses the Cavs Magic game, I hope that team has a fan that will get as triggered as NBA4Lyfe did in this thread because now that I look back on the posts he was hilarious in this one
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5093 » by tamaraw08 » Sat May 4, 2024 1:02 pm

dygaction wrote:
stuporman wrote:
dygaction wrote:
it was because of his 2021 playoff performance 8.0/2.6/1.4. In the 3w-4l 7 game series, he was -9, -7, -10 in the three +10, +6, +5 wins. Coach had to reduced his time from 25mpg in the regular season to 16mpg in the playoff. Brunson made a big improvement the next season


His per36 in those playoffs were similar to the season and those plus minuses actually tell us a little about his impact even as a first time in the playoffs young vet player.

The fact that you guys as fans on a forum don't think he was worth it actually reinforces how terrible of a talent and production evaluation decision it was if the team thought that. He was right in their org and they are supposed to be professions.

He was worth that low money to run the offense when Luka sat and run a little next to him hitting open shots created by him.

He proved that much and they...oh wait, I guess including you, missed it. Of course, I wanted the Knicks to draft Brunson with one of their picks and they passed him up so I have some bias in my opinion of the player.

Whoops :lol:


It's hindsight, and all turned out to be well. Brunson gets spotlight in NYK, Luka gets a better 2nd option in Kyrie, both teams are playing the 2nd round. Dont think Luka and Brunson can work as great as him and Kyrie.

They looked good together indeed but can they really win and advance if not for the very good supporting cast of Washington, Gafford and Lively?
Also note they beat a team that was missing their best player.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5094 » by tamaraw08 » Sat May 4, 2024 1:24 pm

Mr B wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:It's still wild to me how normal Kawhi's postseason injury has become. It's every year at this point and we just expect it.

It’s wild that he was able to stay healthy enough to get that new contract and once he did he shut it down.

How I wish you can strap Ballmer to s polygraph test in public and ask him if he absolutely love Kawhi and he would never trade him for a healthier Allstar
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5095 » by maradro » Sat May 4, 2024 3:32 pm

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:

that dude is a luka fan



Here's what we can say without dispute:

Luka never beat the Clips until Harden joined them.

If only Jimmy had gotten there sooner.

Buh bye Beard.


luka might be the most overrated nba player i have seen since manu ginobili and shawn marion lol


harden modelled his game after ginobili and called him his favorite player on twitter in 2016. although ill grant he likely changed his mind in 2017 :lol:

at least harden shot over 30% last night, shame he couldnt hit a 3. but that was a good game for him, definitely progress
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL leads 3-2) 

Post#5096 » by rk2023 » Sat May 4, 2024 3:38 pm

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
BeiBeau wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:

harden has peaked higher than any luka season and it will stay that way until luka becomes a better shooter haha


Luka is better then notorious overrated playoff choker James harden has even been right now.

Maybe James harden should try winning in the playoffs before we bend over to jerk him off.



538 raptor/epm/per/win shares/bpm/average single season game score

harden blows fluka away


All these stats for 15 years and 0 rings , hasn’t even sniffed a CF since Trump was one year into his term :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5097 » by rk2023 » Sat May 4, 2024 3:43 pm

You can’t call him NBA4LYFE if his time spent preceding a GB ban was finite I guess :lol: :lol: :lol:

Luka, Kyrie, Gaff, Lively forever have fans in me for breaking that absolute loser
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5098 » by BeiBeau » Sat May 4, 2024 3:49 pm

rk2023 wrote:You can’t call him NBA4LYFE if his time spent preceding a GB ban was finite I guess :lol: :lol: :lol:

Luka, Kyrie, Gaff, Lively forever have fans in me for breaking that absolute loser


Is he officially gone?

Hope the clippers org. rots in piss.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5099 » by rk2023 » Sat May 4, 2024 3:52 pm

BeiBeau wrote:
rk2023 wrote:You can’t call him NBA4LYFE if his time spent preceding a GB ban was finite I guess :lol: :lol: :lol:

Luka, Kyrie, Gaff, Lively forever have fans in me for breaking that absolute loser


Is he officially gone?

Hope the clippers org. rots in piss.


On his injury wishing post, it looks like a mod mentioned banning him
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - West 1st Round: #4 Los Angeles Clippers vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (DAL WINS 4-2) 

Post#5100 » by Dirk » Sat May 4, 2024 4:56 pm

The last pages were out of whack.

Britney Harden Spears superfan having a meltdown and then a random guy trolling about some guy the Mavs lost, when we have had this all season...



BloodNinja wrote:Kyrie god damn

Jazz9 wrote:Kyrie is ridiculous...


jehosafats wrote:Kyrie insane


Petergrifindor wrote:INCREDIBLE.

KYRIE!!!!!!!!


Doranku wrote:KyRIDICULOUS. Cooked Tucker's old ass



Duke4life831 wrote:I mean Kyrie… just damn


bluemj32 wrote:Ky....Damn

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Ckay wrote:Damn.



Dubnation wrote:Damn Kyrie...


The Rainmaker wrote:Kyrie embarrassing Pj Tucker.



Finchination33 wrote:Kyrie just retired PJ Tucker


Finchination33 wrote:Kyrie just retired PJ Tucker


Pablo Escobar wrote:KYRIE HOLY SHT


Duke4life831 wrote:That’s a top 75 player of all time right there



Mamba Mentality wrote:PJ cooked into retirement.


SFour wrote:kyrie said let me cook


XTC wrote:That Kyrie shot is going to make PJ Tucker realize he has to retire lmao.



KyRo23 wrote:That might be the last thing PJ does on an NBA court. Wild
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