2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #4 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. #5 Orlando Magic (CLE WINS 4-3)

[basketballRob]

I don’t agree with this at all. I think Cleveland is more talented. Cleveland has a really bad offensive coach and Mitchell isn’t close to 100%.

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

I'm not sure you know what talent is.

I watched the games.

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[jbk1234]

Is Gary Harris playing in Game 6?

[basketballRob]

Is Gary Harris playing in Game 6?

We probably won't know until game time.

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[mcfly1204]

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

I'm not sure you know what talent is.

I watched the games.

lol, good work?

[basketballRob]

I'm not sure you know what talent is.

I watched the games.

lol, good work?

Cleveland can prove me wrong by not getting taken out to the shed Friday in game 6. If they just roll over and get embarrassed again, it'll be hard to say they're better.

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[jbk1234]

I think people are more certain the Magic are winning Game 6 than they should be. There are some pretty big question marks surrounding Allen and Harris, but even if Harris tries to play on an injured hamstring, he'll be nowhere near as effective defensively. Niang is likely done for the series so the point shaving is over. It's not as easy to play loose at home when it's an elimination game and I don't think they can hope for a more favorable whistle than what they got in Game 5. I suspect that Morris won't shoot as well as he did in Game 5, but he might not have to.

[basketballRob]

I think people are more certain the Magic are winning Game 6 than they should be. There are some pretty big question marks surrounding Allen and Harris, but even if Harris tries to play on an injured hamstring, he'll be nowhere near as effective defensively. Niang is likely done for the series so the point shaving is over. It's not as easy to play loose at home when it's an elimination game and I don't think they can hope for a more favorable whistle than what they got in Game 5. I suspect that Morris won't shoot as well as he did in Game 5, but he might not have to.

Franz has guarded Mitchell better than Harris. We didn't get a favorable whistle in game 5.

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[RookieStar]

BTW.. i might be alone in this BUT i dont really think our guys feel any pressure at all. I mean.. i dont think they know that they should feel pressured playing at home in an elimination game. Frankly, they are probably clueless. This isnt a vet team that knows whats at stake. Lol

If you think about it... our SL only has Gary who had a taste of PO basketball. The other 4 doesnt know what is it all about. As to our bench.. JI and Fultz were in that injured list when we got demolished during the Vuc era. Its probably only Jingles who knows whats it all about

[DowJones]

Orlando is the better team but are young and didn't have a home court advantage. Bill Simmons said the exact thing on his broadcast recently. According to Simmons, Boston would be more threatened by the Magic.



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I don’t agree with this at all. I think Cleveland is more talented. Cleveland has a really bad offensive coach and Mitchell isn’t close to 100%.

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

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I just think Orlando is far too limited. I really don't like having a backcourt in today's NBA that struggles to score/shoot the way Orlando's guys do. I just don't see this overwhelming talent advantage. I have Cleveland better at 3 of the 5 positions. Cleveland has 3 guys that made an all-star team while Orlando has 1.

It is also worth noting that Cleveland isn't exactly full of vets. Their starters from game 5 were 24, 27, 23, 28, and 22. Orlando's starters were 22, 29, 21, 22, and 26. I think the bigger reason for Orlando's game 3 and 4 success was their desperation mixed with Cleveland's complacency as opposed to some overwhelming talent advantage.

[DowJones]

I think people are more certain the Magic are winning Game 6 than they should be. There are some pretty big question marks surrounding Allen and Harris, but even if Harris tries to play on an injured hamstring, he'll be nowhere near as effective defensively. Niang is likely done for the series so the point shaving is over. It's not as easy to play loose at home when it's an elimination game and I don't think they can hope for a more favorable whistle than what they got in Game 5. I suspect that Morris won't shoot as well as he did in Game 5, but he might not have to.

Franz has guarded Mitchell better than Harris. We didn't get a favorable whistle in game 5.

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Mitchell has no explosion right now. I like Franz on him more if I am Orlando as Franz has the length to bother Mitchell's jump shot.

[basketballRob]

I don’t agree with this at all. I think Cleveland is more talented. Cleveland has a really bad offensive coach and Mitchell isn’t close to 100%.

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

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I just think Orlando is far too limited. I really don't like having a backcourt in today's NBA that struggles to score/shoot the way Orlando's guys do. I just don't see this overwhelming talent advantage. I have Cleveland better at 3 of the 5 positions. Cleveland has 3 guys that made an all-star team while Orlando has 1.

It is also worth noting that Cleveland isn't exactly full of vets. Their starters from game 5 went were 24, 27, 23, 28, and 22. Orlando's starters were 22, 29, 21, 22, and 26.

Wendell is 25.

I actually liked the Cavs more a few years ago with Love and Rubio. It's too bad that Rubio tore his ACL. They had Hartenstein, too. If Rubio didn't go down, they would've made a run.

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[DowJones]

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

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I just think Orlando is far too limited. I really don't like having a backcourt in today's NBA that struggles to score/shoot the way Orlando's guys do. I just don't see this overwhelming talent advantage. I have Cleveland better at 3 of the 5 positions. Cleveland has 3 guys that made an all-star team while Orlando has 1.

It is also worth noting that Cleveland isn't exactly full of vets. Their starters from game 5 went were 24, 27, 23, 28, and 22. Orlando's starters were 22, 29, 21, 22, and 26.

Wendell is 25.

I actually liked the Cavs more a few years ago with Love and Rubio. It's too bad that Rubio tore his ACL. They had Hartenstein, too. If Rubio didn't go down, they would've made a run.

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Hartenstein was the year before. He played 16 games for the Cavs in the 2020/2021 season. He was actually pretty good for the Cavs that year. I am not overly surprised by how well he has played in New York.

I like this Cavs team MUCH more than the Rubio Cavs team. They also weren't going anywhere with that club. They got a Kevin Love year that was never going to be repeated and Rubio was never the same. Lauri ended up being a really good player in Utah, but he never would be that as a SF in Cleveland.

[JujitsuFlip]

Orlando is the better team but are young and didn't have a home court advantage. Bill Simmons said the exact thing on his broadcast recently. According to Simmons, Boston would be more threatened by the Magic.



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I don’t agree with this at all. I think Cleveland is more talented. Cleveland has a really bad offensive coach and Mitchell isn’t close to 100%.

I disagree. I think the Magic are clearly more talented and only lost the first 2 games by double digits because of inexperience. The Magic should win game 6 easily, and game 7 will be another good game.

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Strictly in the series i think there is no argument that Allen has been the best player for either team, despite getting hurt in game 4 on an elbow from Mo and missing game 5.

I guess you will say Banchero is the 2nd best in the series.

I assume you're giving the edge to Franz for 3rd but i think him and Mitchell have been close, given how many times Mitchell has fell to the floor in pain this series.

From there, it is clearly Mobley in 5th, if not right there in the convo with Franz and Mitchell.

I think there is another push when it comes to Suggs and Garland. I give the edge to Garland, stroking 44% from deep in a series where neither team can buy a bucket.

After those 7 guys it is all role players.

[tooler]

I think people are more certain the Magic are winning Game 6 than they should be.

Most of us know it's not a given. Shooting variance is enough to swing even the massive blowouts from the prior games.

[basketballRob]

The refs should've called a foul on Mobley with 1 minute left. I'm only pointing this out because someone here said the Magic were getting a favorable whistle in game 5.

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[jbk1234]

The refs should've called a foul on Mobley with 1 minute left. I'm only pointing this out because someone here said the Magic were getting a favorable whistle in game 5.

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Yeah, it's a travesty the Magic didn't get 31 free throws playing in someone else's arena in a pivotal Game 5.

[basketballRob]

The refs should've called a foul on Mobley with 1 minute left. I'm only pointing this out because someone here said the Magic were getting a favorable whistle in game 5.

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Yeah, it's a travesty the Magic didn't get 31 free throws playing in someone else's arena in a pivotal Game 5.

The Magic led the league in FTA this season.

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[JujitsuFlip]

The refs should've called a foul on Mobley with 1 minute left. I'm only pointing this out because someone here said the Magic were getting a favorable whistle in game 5.

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Yeah, it's a travesty the Magic didn't get 31 free throws playing in someone else's arena in a pivotal Game 5.

The Magic have been near the top of the league in FTA all year.

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Still got a favorable whistle game 5, not really that hard to see.

[basketballRob]

Yeah, it's a travesty the Magic didn't get 31 free throws playing in someone else's arena in a pivotal Game 5.

The Magic have been near the top of the league in FTA all year.

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Still got a favorable whistle game 5, not really that hard to see.

We actually led the league in FTA. You guys have jump shooters that don't draw many shooting fouls.

The Magic were #1 in FTA, and the Cavs were #24.

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[jbk1234]

The refs should've called a foul on Mobley with 1 minute left. I'm only pointing this out because someone here said the Magic were getting a favorable whistle in game 5.

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Yeah, it's a travesty the Magic didn't get 31 free throws playing in someone else's arena in a pivotal Game 5.

The Magic led the league in FTA this season.

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The problem is this is the playoffs and the entire series, every series really, has been called that way, except for that game.

Allen's rib bruise came from a Mo Wagner elbow in Game 4. Mobley hit the deck several times in that game with no whistle after getting shoved.

While we're at it, Mo hacked the crap out of every Cav except for Garland and Mitchell in Game 5 and they let it go.

It was a Tony Brothers crew. It is what it is.