"Marginal Contact"

Moderators: Harry Garris, ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, bwgood77, zimpy27, cupcakesnake, Domejandro, infinite11285

JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 12,862
And1: 10,448
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#21 » by JRoy » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:13 am

KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:Great chance for LAL to see how the other half lives.


So then do we agree it's not rigged for LA?

This happens every year :lol: all I hear is the refs are gifting LA wins, then it happens the other way and everyone goes "see how it feels?!"... but no wait... you can't have both. The logic can't work both ways if the first part is true.


What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
Statlanta
RealGM
Posts: 12,662
And1: 9,292
Joined: Mar 06, 2016

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#22 » by Statlanta » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:14 am

This was more of a foul than the Murray call that got him free throws for the 98 and 99 basket. This is why you get HCA to get the refs in your pocket.
East #1 Draft Picks: Fultz, Banchero, Wiggins, Cuninigham
West #1 Draft Picks: Edwards, WIlliamson, Ayton, Towns
User avatar
KyRo23
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,684
And1: 12,037
Joined: May 07, 2017
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#23 » by KyRo23 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:14 am

JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:Great chance for LAL to see how the other half lives.


So then do we agree it's not rigged for LA?

This happens every year :lol: all I hear is the refs are gifting LA wins, then it happens the other way and everyone goes "see how it feels?!"... but no wait... you can't have both. The logic can't work both ways if the first part is true.


What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.


I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?
User avatar
TheGOATRises007
RealGM
Posts: 20,292
And1: 18,460
Joined: Oct 05, 2013
         

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#24 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:16 am

It was a terrible call to be honest. Lakers got hosed on that 1.

But of all the franchises to complain about calls, they should be the last ones. They have a ring because of rigged officiating back in 2002.
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 12,862
And1: 10,448
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#25 » by JRoy » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:17 am

KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
So then do we agree it's not rigged for LA?

This happens every year :lol: all I hear is the refs are gifting LA wins, then it happens the other way and everyone goes "see how it feels?!"... but no wait... you can't have both. The logic can't work both ways if the first part is true.


What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.


I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Only so much they can do.

Need to give LAL triple the DEN FTA next time.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
User avatar
KyRo23
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,684
And1: 12,037
Joined: May 07, 2017
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#26 » by KyRo23 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:18 am

JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.


I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Only so much they can do.

Need to give LAL triple the DEN FTA next time.


Cop out response :lol:

Someone will explain it to me one day. Today is not that day
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 12,862
And1: 10,448
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#27 » by JRoy » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:21 am

KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Only so much they can do.

Need to give LAL triple the DEN FTA next time.


Cop out response :lol:

Someone will explain it to me one day. Today is not that day


I don’t know how much simpler it can be.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
Individual
Junior
Posts: 473
And1: 379
Joined: Jun 23, 2008

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#28 » by Individual » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:21 am

KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Only so much they can do.

Need to give LAL triple the DEN FTA next time.


Cop out response :lol:

Someone will explain it to me one day. Today is not that day

These people are at a loss for words when the Lakers get screwed :lol: their conspiracies proven false
User avatar
KyRo23
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,684
And1: 12,037
Joined: May 07, 2017
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#29 » by KyRo23 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:23 am

JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Only so much they can do.

Need to give LAL triple the DEN FTA next time.


Cop out response :lol:

Someone will explain it to me one day. Today is not that day


I don’t know how much simpler it can be.


It would be simpler if you answered without a runaround statement. There was a great chance to rig it for LA. LeBron on his and 1 that wasn't called. LeBron's drive before that where he got hit in the body like how LeBron did Murray, who got FTs at the end. Seems like ones that could have been called for a rigging.

Maybe game 3!
FrobeBryant
Senior
Posts: 658
And1: 715
Joined: Dec 18, 2020

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#30 » by FrobeBryant » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:24 am

The mental gymnastics from some of y'all :lol: Getting slapped across the face has always been a foul. So you’re telling me if a player shoots a layup then gets punched on the way down after releasing the ball, it’s not a foul? I know yall hate the Lakers and LeBron but at least be reasonable with your takes.
User avatar
Lunartic
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,794
And1: 9,309
Joined: Nov 28, 2015

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#31 » by Lunartic » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:49 am

KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
So then do we agree it's not rigged for LA?

This happens every year :lol: all I hear is the refs are gifting LA wins, then it happens the other way and everyone goes "see how it feels?!"... but no wait... you can't have both. The logic can't work both ways if the first part is true.


What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.


I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Rigging = orchestrating a specific outcome by any means necessary

Favoritism = giving the Lakers insane amounts of FTA in an effort to bolster their chances at making the playoffs

I doubt anyone is actually saying the League is cheating to ensure the Lakers win the title, they just have repeatedly been the beneficiaries of soft calls all season long.
User avatar
KyRo23
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,684
And1: 12,037
Joined: May 07, 2017
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#32 » by KyRo23 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:52 am

Lunartic wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
What victims!

Refs need to donate more FTA.

Your gotcha fails; one blown call against LAL doesn’t make up for perpetual favoritism and outright game rigging.


I'm fine with missed calls. LA is no victim to officiating usually. I just want to clear it up for the people saying it's rigged, because it's always rigged until it isn't... Not one of you guys have explained it to me, I'll give you another shot

Refs had a great chance to make this 1-1. Why wouldn't it happen?


Rigging = orchestrating a specific outcome by any means necessary

Favoritism = giving the Lakers insane amounts of FTA in an effort to bolster their chances at making the playoffs

I doubt anyone is actually saying the League is cheating to ensure the Lakers win the title, they just have repeatedly been the beneficiaries of soft calls all season long.


For sure, but if you can do that for an 82 game season to ensure LA makes the playoffs, why just ditch that as soon as it starts? Great chance to add extra games to this series, or at least make it 1-1. You'd think if they wanted LA in the playoffs THAT bad, they'd want them to play more games in the playoffs, no?

It all sounds kind of dumb when you break it down. Is the NBA really hurting for 4 singular Lakers playoff games that they would favorite them for 6 months? Surely they could keep doing it and keep them in there
nzahir
RealGM
Posts: 10,449
And1: 4,748
Joined: Nov 04, 2017
 

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#33 » by nzahir » Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:54 am

Basically cost the Lakers the game and likely a real shot at the series, just unbelievable

Lakers need to bring up the officiating just like how Darryl Morrey is right now
NCHeels2008
RealGM
Posts: 12,567
And1: 2,627
Joined: Aug 24, 2005

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#34 » by NCHeels2008 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:11 am

nzahir wrote:Basically cost the Lakers the game and likely a real shot at the series, just unbelievable

Lakers need to bring up the officiating just like how Darryl Morrey is right now


nah he looks like a punk for that and it wont help
User avatar
Sgt Major
Head Coach
Posts: 6,281
And1: 15,248
Joined: Nov 09, 2018
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#35 » by Sgt Major » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:14 am

Lakers fans complaining about the refs is so sweet.
Det. Frank Pembleton: You know, sometimes you're funny. Then there's now.
HanzGruber
Pro Prospect
Posts: 753
And1: 1,090
Joined: Aug 18, 2018
 

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#36 » by HanzGruber » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:14 am

Really makes no sense. What if it was a pass instead and he got hit in the face. Is it not a foul then?
User avatar
NyKnicks1714
RealGM
Posts: 24,449
And1: 24,748
Joined: Nov 20, 2001
   

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#37 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:16 am

Statlanta wrote:This was more of a foul than the Murray call that got him free throws for the 98 and 99 basket. This is why you get HCA to get the refs in your pocket.


Remember the refs made the call on Porter. Then Malone challenged and it was overturned. If only there was a mechanism in place to potentially get the LeBron foul overturned too...
bubonicphoniks
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,333
And1: 907
Joined: Jan 25, 2014

Re: 

Post#38 » by bubonicphoniks » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:17 am

Lakers fans always whining about the refs yet they've won multiple titles because of officiating.
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 27,088
And1: 14,001
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: "Marginal Contact" 

Post#39 » by jfs1000d » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:19 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:We all saw the hit to the face on a Lakers player that got reversed because it was "Marginal Contact". I've never seen this before during a regular season game I don't think, especially when the player is hit in the face. Is this a regular thing, or only during the playoffs?

Read on Twitter
?t=pckIFpP2Ym0KNObfi7ipoQ&s=19

Hit to the face after the ball is released, while the defender is making a natural play, is not a foul.

The hit to the face was incidental, didn’t cause Russell to miss a shot. Same thing happened to Jaylen Brown in a regular season game earlier this year.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
levon
RealGM
Posts: 14,920
And1: 23,369
Joined: Aug 04, 2017

Re: 

Post#40 » by levon » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:22 am

jfs1000d wrote:
ScrantonBulls wrote:We all saw the hit to the face on a Lakers player that got reversed because it was "Marginal Contact". I've never seen this before during a regular season game I don't think, especially when the player is hit in the face. Is this a regular thing, or only during the playoffs?

Read on Twitter
?t=pckIFpP2Ym0KNObfi7ipoQ&s=19

Hit to the face after the ball is released, while the defender is making a natural play, is not a foul.

The hit to the face was incidental, didn’t cause Russell to miss a shot. Same thing happened to Jaylen Brown in a regular season game earlier this year.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Same thing happened to AD twice which caused him to miss 3 games in a season where he played 76 and every game mattered. So what you're telling me is it's a flagrant 1 whenever a shooter kicks out their leg and it's a "landing space" foul, but you can injure players in the head with impunity.

If this was a video game, the players would have rage quit. The entire product is bug-ridden.

Return to The General Board