Anthony Edwards Trajectory
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this dude is making a difference. but he needs to collect rings
and in this age of parity there is ZERO excuse not to get a few
and in this age of parity there is ZERO excuse not to get a few
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Has the otherworldly physical tools that MJ/Wade had. His biggest flaw right now is his decision making.
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Wade came into the league at 21-22. That really has to be taken into account.
If Anthony Edwards plateaus right now at 22, he would still be comparable to Wade overall as a talent. Wade is the 3rd best SG of all time..
The fact that hes on such a great team with 2 elite bigs and an up and coming defensive savant in McDaniels is the best possible situation for him to maximize his career. As opposed to guys like Bron and Luka wasting some of their peak years on middling teams.
If Anthony Edwards plateaus right now at 22, he would still be comparable to Wade overall as a talent. Wade is the 3rd best SG of all time..
The fact that hes on such a great team with 2 elite bigs and an up and coming defensive savant in McDaniels is the best possible situation for him to maximize his career. As opposed to guys like Bron and Luka wasting some of their peak years on middling teams.
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Everything he is doing now he can do and then some in the RS. If he doesn't win an MVP and become a consensus top 3 player every season eventually I'd be shocked.
He has a very real shot at becoming a top 5 SG of all time when his career is over. Guy has the physical tools and feel for the game to do literally anything and get wherever he wants on the court.
He has a very real shot at becoming a top 5 SG of all time when his career is over. Guy has the physical tools and feel for the game to do literally anything and get wherever he wants on the court.
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Special_Puppy wrote:thinktank wrote:Special_Puppy wrote:
Mike Gminski. Also, for consistency's sake do you believe in playoff Murray?
Hope you’re joking about Gminski.
Murray is injured. TBD.
5+ rise in his BPM through his first 15 playoff games!
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=gminsmi01&p1yrfrom=1982&p1yrto=1984&player_id2=edwaran01&p2yrfrom=2022&p2yrto=2024
We’re talking about Mike Gminski. And Anthony Edwards. Riiiiiight.
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Airmiess wrote:Wade came into the league at 21-22. That really has to be taken into account.
If Anthony Edwards plateaus right now at 22, he would still be comparable to Wade overall as a talent. Wade is the 3rd best SG of all time..
The fact that hes on such a great team with 2 elite bigs and an up and coming defensive savant in McDaniels is the best possible situation for him to maximize his career. As opposed to guys like Bron and Luka wasting some of their peak years on middling teams.
I really just don't see how they're comparable talents. Wade was a legitimately top 3 player between 2006 and 2010. He was completely unstoppable he was just on a bad team.
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OkcSinceSGA wrote:TimberKat wrote:I think game 4 vs Suns answered most questions. He can hit 3s and improved a lot on the mid range game and passing. If he is not DWade level yet, he is very close. He is already top 20 and likely top 15 (making the All NBA Third team this year). His trajectory should be better than DWade.
Man you guys gotta slow down the hype. His trajectory “should be better than Dwade” why? Wade is considered by many to be the 3rd best SG in history after Jordan and Kobe.
If you realize this is about trajectory, you must know Ant’s trajectory has a big head start on Wade’s because he was competing against pro’s earlier.
He was already a top 10 MVP vote by his second and third seasons. In his 3rd year he had a historic playoff performance for two way guard dominance and led the Heat to a title when they were huge underdogs vs Dallas.
At age 22, Ant will likely be a top 10 MVP vote getter. At age 22, Wade wasn’t there yet.
Wade’s defense was probably twice as good as Ant by the same age. Overall he was further along than Edwards as a two way player. He was a significantly better as a playmaker. I actually think Ant has a 20% chance at best to surpass Wade.
At age 21, Ant was getting votes for All Defense. At age 21, Wade was defending teams that Marquette had on the schedule.
In all fairness to Edwards, he’s a couple years younger than Wade was, but it’s still a tall order to throw Ant into top 2 all time SG discussions based off one star tier season.
At Age 22, Ant was a two time All Star. Wade was not there yet.
At Age 22, Ant will likely make All NBA. Wade was not there yet.
I agree that Wade is a high bar. But ”trajectory” does not mean “likelyhood.” This young success and eye-popping athleticism is exactly the type of trajectory a player would need to demonstrate to be talked about with Wade.
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I also don't look at it as DWade is #3 shooting Guard but just NBA players. I think there is a big gap going from MJ to Kobe. There is another bigger gap going from Kobe to DWade (if he is really #3). I put DWade in the same group as TMcG, Drexler, and Harden (and maybe some old timers that I don't remember anymore). Harden maybe ahead of DWade too. I see Luka is ahead of this group. So maybe in a couple years we will be talking about if Ant is better than Luka.
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Very fun to watch. Slowly becoming my favorite of the new gen players
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Astaluego wrote:Thaddy wrote:Him, Paulo, and Barnes will compete on who the next best perimeter player in the league will be.
Is Luka ruled out? I hope that at some point he realizes that he should take better care of his body and in terms of talent I will choose him
Luka is too busy eating happy meals and drinking that brewski in his spare time
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Pelly24 wrote:Airmiess wrote:Wade came into the league at 21-22. That really has to be taken into account.
If Anthony Edwards plateaus right now at 22, he would still be comparable to Wade overall as a talent. Wade is the 3rd best SG of all time..
The fact that hes on such a great team with 2 elite bigs and an up and coming defensive savant in McDaniels is the best possible situation for him to maximize his career. As opposed to guys like Bron and Luka wasting some of their peak years on middling teams.
I really just don't see how they're comparable talents. Wade was a legitimately top 3 player between 2006 and 2010. He was completely unstoppable he was just on a bad team.
I watched Wade's whole career, there's no level he got to that is unattainable for Ant. They are certainly comparable.
If anything, the deep shooting mechanics from AE makes it a conservative comparison.
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eyeatoma wrote:One_and_Done wrote:eyeatoma wrote:What?????
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You know he trolls on here right?
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His ceiling is Wade. He is definitely fun to watch. Right now he is a bigger version of Morant or Mitchell.
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tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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OkcSinceSGA wrote:wablty wrote:He's got a very good chance at being the best guard in the league for a significant stretch of time. And that time's probably starting soon.
After that, you judge by rings.
Non starter discussion. Luka and SGA are like 25. I see nothing that indicates he will surpass either of them ever, let alone soon. Like what leap are you seeing in him that lets him leap these two MVP candidates?
Blind test. Which would you choose?
One averaged 27/6/5 on 48/29/73 shooting splits in the first round at age 25.
One averaged 31/8/8 on 51/44/84 shooting splits in the first round at age 22.
One averaging 29/10/8 on 39/26/81 shooting splits in the first round at age 25.
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Ant's Trajectory
1st season : rookie
2nd season: Jerry Stackhouse
3rd season: D Wade
4th season: Kobe
5th season : MJ
1st season : rookie
2nd season: Jerry Stackhouse
3rd season: D Wade
4th season: Kobe
5th season : MJ
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Papi_swav wrote:Ant's Trajectory
1st season : rookie
2nd season: Jerry Stackhouse
3rd season: D Wade
4th season: Kobe
5th season : MJ
6th season : GOAT?
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Lalouie wrote:this dude is making a difference. but he needs to collect rings
and in this age of parity there is ZERO excuse not to get a few
That’s quite the conundrum.
Given: Parity
Then: Win multiple rings.
Well if there’s parity, it’s not going to be easy to win multiple rings.
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Klomp wrote:OkcSinceSGA wrote:wablty wrote:He's got a very good chance at being the best guard in the league for a significant stretch of time. And that time's probably starting soon.
After that, you judge by rings.
Non starter discussion. Luka and SGA are like 25. I see nothing that indicates he will surpass either of them ever, let alone soon. Like what leap are you seeing in him that lets him leap these two MVP candidates?
Blind test. Which would you choose?
One averaged 27/6/5 on 48/29/73 shooting splits in the first round at age 25.
One averaged 31/8/8 on 51/44/84 shooting splits in the first round at age 22.
One averaging 29/10/8 on 39/26/81 shooting splits in the first round at age 25.
I’ll take that middle guy. You know, the one who put up better numbers across the board while being three years younger than the other two. Call me crazy!
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Papi_swav wrote:Ant's Trajectory
1st season : rookie
2nd season: Jerry Stackhouse
3rd season: D Wade
4th season: Kobe
5th season : MJ
First season he was Dion Waiters, don't forget
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
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