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he's a top10 scorer
he's a top25 - 30 player
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7ft with guard skills and can shoot the lights out.
On paper that sounds like a dude who should have been the best to ever do it. You can't teach mentality and leadership. KD never had either.
On paper that sounds like a dude who should have been the best to ever do it. You can't teach mentality and leadership. KD never had either.
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The Brooklyn one wasn't really his fault and the Phoenix one is tough... CP got hurt last year and Beal was absolutely pathetic this year.
He's never been a true leader in the same way Kawhi has never been a true leader. It doesn't mean that he isn't a killer on the court. Dude came off an Achilles injury looking much better than anyone thought he'd be. I don't really pin any of the failures on him.
He's never been a true leader in the same way Kawhi has never been a true leader. It doesn't mean that he isn't a killer on the court. Dude came off an Achilles injury looking much better than anyone thought he'd be. I don't really pin any of the failures on him.
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I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
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KD teams all tend to play the exact same brand of basketball too. From OKC to Brooklyn to Phoenix. Same thing, different city. Just motionless, stagnate, iso-heavy ball.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
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he's too tall to have elite ball handling. it's why he isn't on the jordan/kobe tier. he has to rely on good facilitators. it worked well with steph and harden. not so well with westbrook and whoever is the suns pg.
kd's career is so unfortunate. brooklyn would have won if kyrie didn't have someone put their foot under him for a defensive rebound.
kd's career is so unfortunate. brooklyn would have won if kyrie didn't have someone put their foot under him for a defensive rebound.
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He’s Tracey Mcgrady except he cowardly ran to a Warriors team to win some rings. He’s so overrated.
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uncleduck13 wrote:KD teams all tend to play the exact same brand of basketball too. From OKC to Brooklyn to Phoenix. Same thing, different city. Just motionless, stagnate, iso-heavy ball.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
He even started isoing more later in Warriors run and was critical of the system
More than anything hes prolly the lowest Iq superstar ever at least in the alltime great category hes in. Hes just very stupid when it comes to the nuances of ball. Like those casuals we hear say "game is about a bucket" he has the same Iq as them he cant think basketball past surface level. Thats why Warriors worked for him they had all the Iq and system in place. Hes been iso freelance bucket ball failure everywhere else.
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Peregrine01 wrote:I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
i still agree with him on that point. if u take out the KD years, gsw only beat 2 quality teams. OKC in 2016 and boston in 2022. GSW's success looks amazing from afar, but they played a ton of injured opponents. When the rest of the west is healthy, they don't go far.
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Peregrine01 wrote:I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
I mean hes not wrong. Warriors are/were the patriots of the NBA. System team that benefits from the product the league is promoting and are officiated accordingly.
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bovice wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
i still agree with him on that point. if u take out the KD years, gsw only beat 2 quality teams. OKC in 2016 and boston in 2022. GSW's success looks amazing from afar, but they played a ton of injured opponents. When the rest of the west is healthy, they don't go far.
That 2016 series was painful to watch. They jobbed OKC hard
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Tor_Raps wrote:The Brooklyn one wasn't really his fault and the Phoenix one is tough... CP got hurt last year and Beal was absolutely pathetic this year.
He's never been a true leader in the same way Kawhi has never been a true leader. It doesn't mean that he isn't a killer on the court. Dude came off an Achilles injury looking much better than anyone thought he'd be. I don't really pin any of the failures on him.
Brooklyn was his fault. Moreso than this one. In Brooklyn, he was the GM, leader, and franchise player. When his team was swept by BOS, he demanded a trade before the ink was dry on his 4 year extension.
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GSP wrote:uncleduck13 wrote:KD teams all tend to play the exact same brand of basketball too. From OKC to Brooklyn to Phoenix. Same thing, different city. Just motionless, stagnate, iso-heavy ball.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
He even started isoing more later in Warriors run and was critical of the system
More than anything hes prolly the lowest Iq superstar ever at least in the alltime great category hes in. Hes just very stupid when it comes to the nuances of ball. Like those casuals we hear say "game is about a bucket" he has the same Iq as them he cant think basketball past surface level. Thats why Warriors worked for him they had all the Iq and system in place. Hes been iso freelance bucket ball failure everywhere else.
good summary...the ironic thing is he has the IQ and fit in the Warriors system, but egos are in the way, he wants me me me, just shy away from saying that straight... a mental midget
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SUPERVILLAIN wrote:ScrantonBulls wrote:SUPERVILLAIN wrote:He failed with James Harden and Kyrie Irving. Now he failed again with Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. These two huge disasters should be seen as a big, ugly stain on his legacy. Durant has only thrived when he is playing with one of the greatest core of all time in the history of this sport. I really can't see Durant as an all-time great anymore. An all-timer should have done way better with opportunities like his.
Also we can't forget that Durant has always been a guy who joined a superteam. Basically he is a follower. He never been the alpha. He joined Golden State when the golden core is already established. He went to Brooklyn because Kyrie told him so. Lastly, he picked Phoenix as his trade destination when things get ugly in Brooklyn. And it's very possible that he will find a way out from Phoenix to be in a better team.
I will say it one more time. Kevin Durant is not an all time great. He can't be in the conversation anymore.
I question your basketball knowledge if you expected this Suns team to win.
Surely I don't expect them to win. And that only makes it clearer that Durant has failed. You play with fellow stars like Booker and Beal and nobody expect you to win the first round? What the hell? How much more help do you need? How many stars teammate needed to make you a favorite?
It's a terrible fit with old, injury prone players. The team had no depth either. Basketball is played with 5 players on the court for a team, not 3... You're ignoring all context with the team and buying into the "superteam" narrative.
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TinmanZBoy wrote:GSP wrote:uncleduck13 wrote:KD teams all tend to play the exact same brand of basketball too. From OKC to Brooklyn to Phoenix. Same thing, different city. Just motionless, stagnate, iso-heavy ball.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
He even started isoing more later in Warriors run and was critical of the system
More than anything hes prolly the lowest Iq superstar ever at least in the alltime great category hes in. Hes just very stupid when it comes to the nuances of ball. Like those casuals we hear say "game is about a bucket" he has the same Iq as them he cant think basketball past surface level. Thats why Warriors worked for him they had all the Iq and system in place. Hes been iso freelance bucket ball failure everywhere else.
good summary...the ironic thing is he has the IQ and fit in the Warriors system, but egos are in the way, he wants me me me, just shy away from saying that straight... a mental midget
Harrison Barnes and Andrew Wiggins had the Iq to win a ring in that system so its not saying much
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Lala870 wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
I mean hes not wrong. Warriors are/were the patriots of the NBA. System team that benefits from the product the league is promoting and are officiated accordingly.
It worked to the tune of being the most dominant team of the last decade. What's ironic is that KD was criticizing the Warriors offense when it was he himself that was bogging down the Warriors offense.
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Man you guys is pathetic for hating on one of the best to ever play the game. He is top 50 or top 25 of all time at least and oh boy is that a stacked group of guys…
Why y‘all forgetting the OKC superteam he had? Three future MVPs and they could not get it done.
It’s damn hard to win it all in this league and I hardly blame him for joining the Warriors or a poorly constructed PHX roster.
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Why y‘all forgetting the OKC superteam he had? Three future MVPs and they could not get it done.
It’s damn hard to win it all in this league and I hardly blame him for joining the Warriors or a poorly constructed PHX roster.
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Peregrine01 wrote:Lala870 wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:I remember him throwing shade on GSW's system again and again after he left, saying how it didn't work against better defenses in the playoffs. Wonder how he feels about that now.
I mean hes not wrong. Warriors are/were the patriots of the NBA. System team that benefits from the product the league is promoting and are officiated accordingly.
It worked to the tune of being the most dominant team of the last decade. What's ironic is that KD was criticizing the Warriors offense when it was he himself that was bogging down the Warriors offense.
KD is a showman lol. What can you say
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GSP wrote:uncleduck13 wrote:KD teams all tend to play the exact same brand of basketball too. From OKC to Brooklyn to Phoenix. Same thing, different city. Just motionless, stagnate, iso-heavy ball.
Coaches always get blamed, but he’s the common denominator in every situation. Golden State was the exception and we all know why.
He even started isoing more later in Warriors run and was critical of the system
More than anything hes prolly the lowest Iq superstar ever at least in the alltime great category hes in. Hes just very stupid when it comes to the nuances of ball. Like those casuals we hear say "game is about a bucket" he has the same Iq as them he cant think basketball past surface level. Thats why Warriors worked for him they had all the Iq and system in place. Hes been iso freelance bucket ball failure everywhere else.
Agree 100% . He has a very casual/surface level/street ball philosophy on the game. It’s the reason why he co-signed Kyrie saying they didn’t need a coach the day after Steve Nash was hired. Just a foolish mentality that continues to show itself on the court. Time after time. Situation after situation.