Define "Superteam"

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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#81 » by NbaAllDay » Wed May 1, 2024 1:20 am

bledredwine wrote:
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LaLover11 wrote:
So who cares about a good bench and good coach right?
Spo was a noob with no experience and the Heat Started Joel Anthony and Arroyo lol

Keep thinking that 3 max players can beat a good team with a good coaching and a great bench roster smh



Well if you have 3 max players on a team how do you expect them to fill out their roster? Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Did James, Wade, or Bosh give up any salary to fill out the bench? Seems like they got what they asked for…,no?


What? They took pay cuts.... had Ray Allen, Shane Battier, Mario Chalmers, Rashard Lewis, Udonis Haslem on one roster.
Then Lebron, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh.

That's an insane amount of help.

Lebron knew how ridiculously unfair the decision was when he said "not 6, not 7, not 8", basically celebrating before playing a game.


'naming names' is the laziest form of an argument you could make in regards to roster strength.

Shane Battier is classed as "an insane amount of help"?

Ray Allen didn't join until 2013 and was 37 years old. He wasn't washed up but let's not pretend he was elite.

Rashard Lewis joined in 2013 as well and was very much washed by then

Mario Chalmers! LOL - He would pretty much not start on any other team in the League.

Haslem was an ok role player, but again, how many teams have him on the starting rotation?

The 2011/2012 Heat had a very good team, this is obvious enough from the top end talent they had, however this idea that the above players constitute as an "Insane amount of help" is laughable.

It should be clear by now that top heavy teams with weak 3/4-8 spots rarely work. in fact of all the attempts in the past 20+ years (Can look back to LA), Miami is the only team to do it with any real success.

The other key difference is one of these "superteams" had a GOAT candidate in his Prime on it. A player who needed to play GOAT level games in the Playoffs to even advance.

If 'stacking the deck' is such a free win for teams, why hasn't it worked since? Could the context above be a big reason or are we just going to keep parroting this idea that the Miami run in those 4 years was a free ride.
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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#82 » by Forbes » Wed May 1, 2024 9:34 pm

The Hypnotoad wrote:
Forbes wrote:Superteam for will always be
3 players on a team who were the #1 option on their previous team


I say needs 4 because three is usually considered a “Big Three”. Superteams would therefore be a level above.


That’s overkill. What team had 4 #1 options.
I never heard the word superteam thrown around publicly until the Heat.
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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#83 » by swyftdahoe » Wed May 1, 2024 10:12 pm

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swyftdahoe wrote:3 max-ish players.


What annual salary makes a player "max-ish"?


Since there are 25%/30%/35% maxes, I guess something like 22%+
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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#84 » by swyftdahoe » Wed May 1, 2024 10:17 pm

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
swyftdahoe wrote:3 max-ish players.


What do you call 5 max players then?
C Ben Simmons
PF Tobias Harris
SF Klay Thompson
SG Beal
PG VanVleet


A Superduper team I suppose. Is such a team even possible rn?
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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#85 » by eyriq » Thu May 2, 2024 12:23 am

Probably a team with 3 top 15 players
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Re: Define "Superteam" 

Post#86 » by Special_Puppy » Thu May 2, 2024 12:25 am

Do the 2023-24 Celtics count as a Superteam?

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