2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #2 Denver Nuggets vs #3 Minnesota Timberwolves (Series tied 3-3)

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Who wins GAME 7 and goes to the WCFs?

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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs: West Semifinals: #2 Denver Nuggets vs #3 Minnesota Timberwolves (MIN leads 2-0) 

Post#3781 » by homecourtloss » Tue May 7, 2024 1:11 pm

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Karate Diop wrote:I respek the Wolves. But this series isn't over...


The series is definitely over. Denver has nothing on Minnesota. It's going to be an easy sweep. Let's hope Murray and Jokic will be better next year, to give Minnesota some competition.


It’s not going to be an easy sweep—Denver is too good for that to happen. Everything has gone perfectly for the Wolves these playoffs and that doesn’t usually last for any team.
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Post#3782 » by JXL » Tue May 7, 2024 1:12 pm

The defense was absolutely frustrating the Nuggets to the brink of the whole Nuggets team crying.

I really think the Nuggets are in deep trouble.
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Post#3783 » by Baseline81 » Tue May 7, 2024 1:14 pm

homecourtloss wrote:It’s not going to be an easy sweep—Denver is too good for that to happen. Everything has gone perfectly for the Wolves these playoffs and that doesn’t usually last for any team.

What does that even mean?

Minnesota has not stolen a win here or there. The team has earned these victories through its defense and playmaking down the stretch.
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Post#3784 » by trueballer7 » Tue May 7, 2024 1:14 pm

Interesting. Reffs calling the Wolves by 90s-early 00s standards on defense seems to have a severe impact on the game. All of that modern basketball superiority, the shooting, the face up excellence, the superlative team strategy of creating space, just about vanished completely in an instant. I wouldnt write off the Nuggets just yet, but it seems they will have to counter in the same manner if they want to compete. They need to take it to the Wolves defensively. If they manage to adapt to the continuus intense physicality, its going to be a glorious series, old school stuff.
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Post#3785 » by homecourtloss » Tue May 7, 2024 1:17 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:It’s not going to be an easy sweep—Denver is too good for that to happen. Everything has gone perfectly for the Wolves these playoffs and that doesn’t usually last for any team.

What does that even mean?

Minnesota has not stolen a win here or there. The team has earned these victories through its defense and playmaking down the stretch.


Of course and they deserve credit for being so good including KAT who has been a defensive monster in the playoffs.

What I’m saying is that in the playoffs there will almost always be some adversity when things stop working or going your way especially when playing a team as good as Denver is who has an MVP anchor.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

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Post#3787 » by kveble » Tue May 7, 2024 1:21 pm

homecourtloss wrote:
kveble wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:I respek the Wolves. But this series isn't over...


The series is definitely over. Denver has nothing on Minnesota. It's going to be an easy sweep. Let's hope Murray and Jokic will be better next year, to give Minnesota some competition.


It’s not going to be an easy sweep—Denver is too good for that to happen. Everything has gone perfectly for the Wolves these playoffs and that doesn’t usually last for any team.


I just don't think Denver has it in them this year. Murray is injured and this team is way too much for Jokic to carry solo.
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Post#3788 » by EmpireFalls » Tue May 7, 2024 1:22 pm

Weird series though. Next game isn’t Wednesday, it isn’t even Thursday, it’s FRIDAY night which is ridiculous. There will be 3 different nights of playoff games before we hear from them again.
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Post#3789 » by homecourtloss » Tue May 7, 2024 1:23 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:Weird series though. Next game isn’t Wednesday, it isn’t even Thursday, it’s FRIDAY night which is ridiculous. There will be 3 different nights of playoff games before we hear from them again.


Yeah, it’s strange. It’s good for Denver, though—it allows for a reset and takes a bit of momentum away from Minnesota. All it takes is one good game and the series changes.
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Post#3790 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue May 7, 2024 1:28 pm

trueballer7 wrote:Interesting. Reffs calling the Wolves by 90s-early 00s standards on defense seems to have a severe impact on the game. All of that modern basketball superiority, the shooting, the face up excellence, the superlative team strategy of creating space, just about vanished completely in an instant. I wouldnt write off the Nuggets just yet, but it seems they will have to counter in the same manner if they want to compete. They need to take it to the Wolves defensively. If they manage to adapt to the continuus intense physicality, its going to be a glorious series, old school stuff.


They don't have the personnel to do it. Malone really thought that guys like Braun and Watson could replace BB and Jeff Green.
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Post#3791 » by Special_Puppy » Tue May 7, 2024 1:36 pm

If Murray is THIS hobbled by injuries then I'm not sure the Nuggets could even beat a team like the Mavericks even if Jokic was playing at an insane level (which he is not in this series)
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Post#3792 » by Special_Puppy » Tue May 7, 2024 1:37 pm

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trueballer7 wrote:Interesting. Reffs calling the Wolves by 90s-early 00s standards on defense seems to have a severe impact on the game. All of that modern basketball superiority, the shooting, the face up excellence, the superlative team strategy of creating space, just about vanished completely in an instant. I wouldnt write off the Nuggets just yet, but it seems they will have to counter in the same manner if they want to compete. They need to take it to the Wolves defensively. If they manage to adapt to the continuus intense physicality, its going to be a glorious series, old school stuff.


They don't have the personnel to do it. Malone really thought that guys like Braun and Watson could replace BB and Jeff Green.


Jeff Green was ass, but BB is a big loss. Now the Nuggets basically only have 5 above-average players on the entire roster.
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Post#3793 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue May 7, 2024 1:46 pm

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trueballer7 wrote:Interesting. Reffs calling the Wolves by 90s-early 00s standards on defense seems to have a severe impact on the game. All of that modern basketball superiority, the shooting, the face up excellence, the superlative team strategy of creating space, just about vanished completely in an instant. I wouldnt write off the Nuggets just yet, but it seems they will have to counter in the same manner if they want to compete. They need to take it to the Wolves defensively. If they manage to adapt to the continuus intense physicality, its going to be a glorious series, old school stuff.


They don't have the personnel to do it. Malone really thought that guys like Braun and Watson could replace BB and Jeff Green.


Jeff Green was ass, but BB is a big loss. Now the Nuggets basically only have 5 above-average players on the entire roster.


You're underselling the importance of having a veteran presence in the lockeroom, especially when the team is in a two game hole. Considering what Watson has these playoffs I'm sure the Nuggets would welcome him back with open arms, they could use his size and floor stretching.
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Post#3794 » by Marvin Martian » Tue May 7, 2024 1:51 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:If Murray is THIS hobbled by injuries then I'm not sure the Nuggets could even beat a team like the Mavericks even if Jokic was playing at an insane level (which he is not in this series)

He is not injured. This is just an excuse when he is losing. Notice how no one mentioned him being "injured" when he hit 2 game winners against LAL
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Post#3795 » by Sealab2024 » Tue May 7, 2024 1:54 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:If Murray is THIS hobbled by injuries then I'm not sure the Nuggets could even beat a team like the Mavericks even if Jokic was playing at an insane level (which he is not in this series)


This Murray injury stuff is getting overblown IMHO. Edwards, McDaniels and Alexander-Walker have Jamal in prison right now and they're charging rent for the cell.
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Post#3796 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue May 7, 2024 2:00 pm

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2023 was definitely the weakest the West has been in the 21st century

2020 bubble.


2020 bubble featured a healthy Kawhi, PG, AD, LBJ, pre injury Murray, Jokic, Lillard, Harden etc.

From a star power perspective it was easily the best the west has been in the last couple years.

Murray had a hamstring injury he was coming back from, Jokic was playing at his lightest weight in years returning from Serbia. Golden State wasn’t in it, Portland made it with a losing record. No Booker and the Suns, etc.
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Post#3797 » by Calamity_Cometh » Tue May 7, 2024 2:02 pm

Pack of Wolves out here just eating people.
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Post#3798 » by SK21209 » Tue May 7, 2024 2:02 pm

So when they won last year it felt like the beginning of a run, but Jokic/Murray/Porter/Gordon have been together since the 2021 trade deadline. The first three were in the second round in 2019 and the WCF in 2020. Last year wasn’t the start of a run, it was the culmination of one. The injuries in 2021 and 2022 don’t erase the cumulative wear and tear of those seasons.

If you think of the Nuggets as a team in year 5 or 6 of their run, it’s much less surprising that something like this could happen. It happened to the Lakers in 2011. It happened to the Heat in the 2014 Finals. It just snuck up on us because of the injuries in 2021 and 2022. Their main guys are still younger, but they’ve still been doing this a while.
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Post#3799 » by Chuck Everett » Tue May 7, 2024 2:03 pm

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EmpireFalls wrote:Weird series though. Next game isn’t Wednesday, it isn’t even Thursday, it’s FRIDAY night which is ridiculous. There will be 3 different nights of playoff games before we hear from them again.


Yeah, it’s strange. It’s good for Denver, though—it allows for a reset and takes a bit of momentum away from Minnesota. All it takes is one good game and the series changes.


It's simply a byproduct of both teams ending their series early. The NBA didn't want to have an open date on Saturday. They still get a game on Wednesday with the Knicks/Pacers starting yesterday. After Saturday, the games are almost all every other day until we reach the Finals.
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Post#3800 » by Special_Puppy » Tue May 7, 2024 2:04 pm

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Special_Puppy wrote:If Murray is THIS hobbled by injuries then I'm not sure the Nuggets could even beat a team like the Mavericks even if Jokic was playing at an insane level (which he is not in this series)


This Murray injury stuff is getting overblown IMHO. Edwards, McDaniels and Alexander-Walker have Jamal in prison right now and they're charging rent for the cell.


Murray was total **** against a flawed Lakers defense too.

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