Was Lebron's Lakers stay a success?

[picko]

They won a title, so quite clearly that's a yes.

Pretty weird thread.

[Roy T]

Idk mane. He won a championship and the new tournament for the Lakers. What else do you want?

There are a dozen other teams that played for the bubble championship and he still had to beat them. I refuse to not put respec on their name.

You can hate him for whatever reason, but everybody has to acknowledge that he had a very successful career.

[One_and_Done]

Of course. He brought LA a title, the same number of titles Jokic has for his entire career.

[kaansunman]

I am very curios if any other team would have won the Bubble people still won't count that.

I was more into to suceeding with young players, watching them improve, there is emotional connection. I wish we still had our own drafts as core but not having a ring. But objetively and businesswise bringing LeBron was a right move. And yes it's a succes, we became champions. It's like Wilt to Lakers, Shaq to Miami.
It's not fair to say pair anybody with AD and you become a champ easily. AD came to Lakers because LeBron was there.

[Galloisdaman]

Did he even bring them a title? The bubble ring doesn't count.

I would say it counts as something but not as a real championship. Maybe count it like the in season tournament.

[axeman23]

He won more rings during that time than 75-80% of teams in the league, so there's that...

[zimpy27]

1x championship, 1x fMVP, 6x all star, 6x all NBA

That player is a HoF player for those 6 seasons alone.

[meatwad4343]

Depends how much you value the mickey mouse welfare ring. Everyone knows if they didn't get months off in the middle of the season and the bubble they don't win the championship that year.

[art_tatum]

Won a ring so it's a success

but to be held up by goat standards- he has another top 10 player next to him ( especially early 2020s) in AD and needed play in games to get kicked out of the 1st round 3 times and luck into the wcf to get swept.
Without ad, Lebron couldn't even make the playoffs.
So from that prospective not really.

But a ring is a ring even if it's Mickey.

[Bloodbather]

Yes, because he won a title and FVMP. Lakers messed it up by not retaining Caruso, then further messed it up by trading KCP and Kuzma for Russ. They could've stayed a contender for years to come with that championship roster.

[Mavrelous]

It was a success, ring + WCF run, but could've been much better if it wasn't for the Westbrook trade.

[Chokic]

Yes he gave the Lakers a championship after KB24
Nobody else would've won them a ring besides LeBron

Anthony Davis gave the lakers a championship after kb24.

[QingJames]

Yes, he did bring them a title, even if it was the only title with a genuine asterisk in NBA history.

Making the conference finals from the play-in last year was pretty good too. The rest of his stint has been ugly, but he has some high points in LA.

[Sgt Major]

The OP's whole point is based on a failed premise that the bubble was irrelevant.

So yes, LeBron's Lakers tenure was a huge success. He was unlucky to face one of the all-time greats this and last year, but that doesn't change the fact that the ring he won is as legit as any other.

[Sofia]

“MiCkEy MoUsE rInG” is such a **** argument.

Every team played to the same conditions that they were presented with. Yeah there were no road games, but there were no home games either.

There’s other historical circumstances which you could make arguments as less valuable than recent rings, including one won through a pandemic.

[LaLover11]

Yes he gave the Lakers a championship after KB24
Nobody else would've won them a ring besides LeBron

Anthony Davis gave the lakers a championship after kb24.

AD can't even dribble a basketball without a turnover and is 10% from the 3pt line lmao

That's why he won all those yrs in New Orleans lol
No other superstar would feed AD the way LeBron does
Plus Score 30ppg 8ast 8rebs

I get it ....you hate LeBron it's ok

[Sofia]

1x championship, 1x fMVP, 6x all star, 6x all NBA

That player is a HoF player for those 6 seasons alone.

The irony is that OPs team as a collective franchise has not had a 6 year stretch that matches those results in 72+ years.

[Letsgokings]

Don't forget about his mid season tournament championship! He never was able to get one of those until he joined the Lakers

[QingJames]

“MiCkEy MoUsE rInG” is such a **** argument.

Every team played to the same conditions that they were presented with. Yeah there were no road games, but there were no home games either.

There’s other historical circumstances which you could make arguments as less valuable than recent rings, including one won through a pandemic.

How many times do we have to go over this. The 4 month layoff benefitted certain teams much more than others, like older, injury-prone teams. Especially when the Lakers were still able to (illegally) practice together as a team during the layoff while other teams had guys who didn’t even touch a basketball during that stint.

They still won it and that’s impressive, but the conditions of that chip were very obviously different than any other playoffs, before or since. It’s something less than a real championship but more than the IST.

[Hornet Mania]

I am very curios if any other team would have won the Bubble people still won't count that.

I think most of these same people would have put an asterisk by the bubble title no matter who won it. In some ways I think it would be worse if a player or team that had never won a championship broke through in the bubble. At least Lebron and the Lakers franchise can laugh off any claims they couldn't win outside the bubble. The Clippers, or a player like James Harden, would be ruthlessly mocked if that was their one and only ring.

Personally I don't put an asterisk by the bubble, but I think it's one of the few points where the haters aren't being totally biased. They'd deride anyone for it.