Post Mortem 2023/24 - Miami Heat (Eliminated in 1st Round)

[Homerclease]

Keep Bam and Jacquez, everyone else should be more than available.

[doogie_hauser]

Keep Bam and Jacquez, everyone else should be more than available.

If the Heat F/O still think they can contend, JJJ has to be considered a prime trade asset if they want to say hypothetically trade for someone like Donovan Mitchell. Herro and the other battlers on the roster and limited future first round picks the Heat have is simply not going to cut it.

[Green89]

Trade Butler to the Lakers for Vanderbilt, Reaves, picks. He's done a great job, he's 36 next year.
The core of Vasquez, Herro, Rozier, Adebayo will be competitive either way with Spo coaching.
Keep gathering players as assets and wait until the next star wants out.
Never worry about Miami.
My faith in Spoelstra and the Godfather is that big.


Edit. Jaquez no Vasquez lol

36? Jimmy's 34 and will be 35 for the entirety of next season.

[FeatheryTouch]

Jimmy Butler is the heart and soul of the Heat(and they were a team nobody wanted to play in the first round until he got hurt), but he will be looking for a fat extension and is getting old and potentially injury-prone...if I'm Miami I'd move him to a win-now team and retool with younger pieces to add to Bam/Herro/Jacquez/Jovic/Rozier.

Butler to the Warriors for Kuminga/Moody/Looney and picks?

Miami gets younger/deeper/more athletic and GS gets Curry a seasoned veteran #2 option for one or two more playoff runs.

No team were scared of the heat with or without jimmy.

Team is not that good.

Top teams in east all beat miami easy. Miami wasnt going past 6 games with anyone of them with this apparently mythical creature called jimmy

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

[Fantaxp7]

Trade Butler to the Lakers for Vanderbilt, Reaves, picks. He's done a great job, he's 36 next year.
The core of Vasquez, Herro, Rozier, Adebayo will be competitive either way with Spo coaching.
Keep gathering players as assets and wait until the next star wants out.
Never worry about Miami.
My faith in Spoelstra and the Godfather is that big.


Edit. Jaquez no Vasquez lol

36? Jimmy's 34 and will be 35 for the entirety of next season.

Well he's technically correct lol.

Butler has been injured it seems each of the last two or three post seasons and he is in his mid 30's...either get him some legit help and stop bragging about the late draft picks panning out or trade him. Those picks they get that turn into legit rotation/starters are what the stacked teams should be bragging about.

I think the clock is starting to tick for Butler if he wants to win it all.

[brackdan70]

Jovic, Jaquez and Adebayo are a nice core to build around. IDK if you let Butler play out his contract and hope he is healthy or try to trade him.
Hero is a great scorer, but they need some perimeter D…and Rozier is not that. They are in a tough spot being over the 2nd apron so very little flexibility.

[Larry_Russell]

Jimmy Butler is the heart and soul of the Heat(and they were a team nobody wanted to play in the first round until he got hurt), but he will be looking for a fat extension and is getting old and potentially injury-prone...if I'm Miami I'd move him to a win-now team and retool with younger pieces to add to Bam/Herro/Jacquez/Jovic/Rozier.

Butler to the Warriors for Kuminga/Moody/Looney and picks?

Miami gets younger/deeper/more athletic and GS gets Curry a seasoned veteran #2 option for one or two more playoff runs.

No team were scared of the heat with or without jimmy.

Team is not that good.

Top teams in east all beat miami easy. Miami wasnt going past 6 games with anyone of them with this apparently mythical creature called jimmy

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

[God Squad]

Outside of Bam, Butler and maybe Jaquez I find their roster overrated. They need a retool and trade centered around Roizer and Herro.

[Larry_Russell]

Unless they can get Anthony Davis, should probably blow it up. If they could somehow get AD and keep Butler, Bam and Jacquez that’d be a major win.

I am sure we will all hear "stories" about how every star player/allstar player has ties to Miami and how Miami has the best trade options of any team in the league etc, etc, etc.

Same old story

[Bloodbather]

No team were scared of the heat with or without jimmy.

Team is not that good.

Top teams in east all beat miami easy. Miami wasnt going past 6 games with anyone of them with this apparently mythical creature called jimmy

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

If it's the Heat it's asterisks galore, we get it. You can keep drinking the haterade, just don't expect anyone to take your opinions about the Heat seriously.

[Capn'O]

Def fire the coach

I dunno - the Heat keep surprising me with pulling rabbits out of hats when they don't have much to work with. Just keep doin' what you're doin' and don't listen to me.

[Froob]

Outside of Bam, Butler and maybe Jaquez I find their roster overrated. They need a retool and trade centered around Roizer and Herro.

Surprised they got Rozier. Not really a heat kind of guy, really low IQ. I’d rather have Lowry even way over the hill.

[God Squad]

Outside of Bam, Butler and maybe Jaquez I find their roster overrated. They need a retool and trade centered around Roizer and Herro.

Surprised they got Rozier. Not really a heat kind of guy, really low IQ. I’d rather have Lowry even way over the hill.

Agreed. I understand upgrading from Lowry in theory, but Rozier isn't the player I'd look to replace him with. But again, I don't like Rozier. IMO Rozier and Herro need to be moved for them to retool and compete. They can't come into the season with the same roster and think time and cohesion will fill the gaps.

[DBurks2818]

No team were scared of the heat with or without jimmy.

Team is not that good.

Top teams in east all beat miami easy. Miami wasnt going past 6 games with anyone of them with this apparently mythical creature called jimmy

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

So it was good luck last season but not bad luck this season.

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum)

Tatum was healthy the entire series and the Celtics were a hot-shooting half from getting swept. Herro missed that series also.

[Larry_Russell]

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

So it was good luck last season but not bad luck this season.

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum)

Tatum was healthy the entire series and the Celtics were a hot-shooting half from getting swept. Herro missed that series also.

Its not bad luck this season, it irrelevant cause you were getting absolutely smoked either way, and last season Celtics shot poorly, and went to their averages later in the series, whereas heat went on an all time heater from deep.

Caleb Martin - 49% from 3
Gabe Vincent - 51.5% from 3
Highsmith - 60% from 3
Robinson- 48.5% from 3
Love - 55.7% from 3


Heat had the stars align last season, it was never going to happen again.

[Eagle4]

No team were scared of the heat with or without jimmy.

Team is not that good.

Top teams in east all beat miami easy. Miami wasnt going past 6 games with anyone of them with this apparently mythical creature called jimmy

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

This is the definition of hate and delusion folks. Heat were missing Herro and Dipo (who was still a key rotation piece) last season. Every time Heat get some success it's "luck".
By that measure Celtics will be lucky to make the finals without Porzingis or win since the duo has done jack ish since assembled.

[Larry_Russell]

Uh, how quickly you forget - the Heat made it to the freaking finals last season and two of the past five years, have the best coach in the game, and have regularly overperformed and knocked out higher ranked and more talented teams in the playoffs ever since Butler got there. Milwaukee, Boston, Philly have all been victims. They weren't favored to win it all but damn straight other teams feared the Jimmy Heat, when healthy they have always been a problem in the playoffs...

They got luck the last season due to key injuries to other teams. (Giannis, Tatum) and went historically hot from the floor at the same time.

They caught lightning in a bottle during the bubble.

This is the definition of hate and delusion folks. Heat were missing Herro and Dipo (who was still a key rotation piece) last season. Every time Heat get some success it's "luck".
By that measure Celtics will be lucky to make the finals without Porzingis or win since the duo has done jack ish since assembled.

lol, K bro.

[Chuck Everett]

If they're keeping Butler, dude needs to play. 60 games is not enough. Bump that up to 70 and the Heat win 50 games. Stop taking the regular season off. Lower your usage or your minutes, but you need to be out there on the floor. You're not playing for individual accolades anyway, but Jimmy needs to be on the court.

[zshawn10]

Jimmy Butler... is expected to seek a maximum two-year contract extension worth about $113 million from the Heat this offseason, according to a league source.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article288193530.html

[SK21209]

I thought Rozier was going to be really good there, seems like it didn't quite pan out. They're in danger of Heat Culture turning into Steelers football. Like yeah, you've got great organizational culture, promote mental and physical toughness and tend to outperform your talent level, but you're outperforming to 9-8.